Motorola wants to ban Apple devices in the US

This story began in 2010, when Apple and Motorola fell out over licensing agreements. Fast forward to today; a complaint filed at the US International Trade Commission claims that Apple has infringed on seven Motorola Mobility patents.

The features of the patents include the Siri voice-recognition application, location reminders, e-mail notifications and video/phone players. In an e-mail statement from Motorola Mobility, they have said:

We would like to settle these patent matters, but Apple’s unwillingness to work out a license leaves us little choice but to defend ourselves and our engineers’ innovations.

This is the second complaint Motorola Mobility have filed against Apple. In April, a trade judge said that Apple infringed one of four Motorola Mobility patents covering a way that computers transmit signal through Wi-Fi. A final decision on this first case will be revealed on August 24th.

It should be noted that in May, Google completed the purchase of Motorola Mobility.

This is a very competitive time in the mobile device market, with Google’s, Apple’s and Microsoft’s hardware and software all battling it out for our hard earned cash. Each of these companies works to develop the standards that allow our electronic devices to work together. They then license their patents to each other on realistic terms, and it’s these terms that seem to be causing more and more of a headache for Apple, Google (and most famously Samsung) at the moment.

Apple V Samsung is the court battle that the IT world is watching very closely at the moment. Make all the jokes you want about Apple patenting “a rectangular device with rounded corners,” because it’s the outcome of that trial that will decide just how much of a stranglehold a company can have over an industry standard.

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I hope they win, Apple has won far more frivolous and frankly bogus lawsuits than this. A ban on all Apple devices for a few months would be wonderful for the industry.

But honestly, this will never happen as long as Apple has judges (like Koh) and the USPTO/ITC in their pocket.

There is a 0 chance the title of this article will ever happen. Never ever! Not even if there was a fire!

This tit for tat crap is getting old. The patent process and legal process (regarding patent enforcement) needs to be seriously overhauled.

Motorola doesnt have patents worth anything. They are are old and useless.

That is why currently all Motorola phones are banned to be imported to the US by the ITC,because they infringe on microsofts activesync patents. Theres no way to get around that.

vcfan said,
Motorola doesnt have patents worth anything. They are are old and useless.

That is why currently all Motorola phones are banned to be imported to the US by the ITC,because they infringe on microsofts activesync patents. Theres no way to get around that.


this ban is still on?

Praetor said,

this ban is still on?

yes it is. motorola and google said a few months ago that they have a solution, but in a few months time,nothing. the patents in question are activesync related. theres no way around it than paying up.

vcfan said,

yes it is. motorola and google said a few months ago that they have a solution, but in a few months time,nothing. the patents in question are activesync related. theres no way around it than paying up.

how is it possible for this to happen? this is very anti-competitive and, to be fair, very anti-consumer; no way smartphones prices are gonna drop if there's situations like this happening.

This should be interesting with Moto's arsenal of patients, Karma is a wonderful thing, i hope that Apple get a taste of their own medicine

Apple already got Samsung device banned in part of Europe already, so i say Apple decieved the same thing here in USA

I'm the only one that see this problem, for years Microsoft and Apple and other companies respected their patterns and paid for them, now enter Google in the market with the will to just put anything out there licensed or not and not give a care about anyone's patters they just want the market share.. Everyone is fighting with Google. How would they like it if we all copied their patterns on Search.. they are not playing fair..

Gibbyhome said,
I'm the only one that see this problem, for years Microsoft and Apple and other companies respected their patterns and paid for them, now enter Google in the market with the will to just put anything out there licensed or not and not give a care about anyone's patters they just want the market share.. Everyone is fighting with Google. How would they like it if we all copied their patterns on Search.. they are not playing fair..

What has been proven that Google copied? Oracle didn't prove anything obviously. MS Never discloses their terms with phone makers because they wouldn't have ever age against the others. It's easier to pay small amounts than fight sometimes.

My view:

Consumer flagged patients should only last 2 years. Then, the company that holds them has those years to come up with a product ahead of the market then it's public and anyone can use it for $1 per patient (to stop wild exploitation) for a further 5 years.

Drug patients should last longer but not at the ridiculous price per pill over a long period, companies should charge 10% to 20% less per patient over each year. So drugs will eventually be cheap enough for the masses.

imachip said,
My view:

Consumer flagged patients should only last 2 years. Then, the company that holds them has those years to come up with a product ahead of the market then it's public and anyone can use it for $1 per patient (to stop wild exploitation) for a further 5 years.

Drug patients should last longer but not at the ridiculous price per pill over a long period, companies should charge 10% to 20% less per patient over each year. So drugs will eventually be cheap enough for the masses.

Patients or Patents??...........sorry not being a spelling guru, it just made me smile And i agree with the priciple of your method.

Would mobile phone technology have got to the point where it is today if Apple wasn't around? No. Apple completely revolutionized the market. Before the iPhone, there was Windows Mobile on resistive touch displays.

Motorola may have come up with the theory 20 years ago, but Apple made it a reality. Therefore, I think this case should be scrapped.

68k said,
Would mobile phone technology have got to the point where it is today if Apple wasn't around? No. Apple completely revolutionized the market.

No, they didn't. Phones were headed that direction anyway. The other manufacturers just misjudged that consumers would be willing to fork out $800-$900 for a phone.

68k said,
Would mobile phone technology have got to the point where it is today if Apple wasn't around? No. Apple completely revolutionized the market. Before the iPhone, there was Windows Mobile on resistive touch displays.

Motorola may have come up with the theory 20 years ago, but Apple made it a reality. Therefore, I think this case should be scrapped.

Yes, without Apple there would've been noone to advance science, the world would fall apart as we know it.

Yes, they were the first players to make the smartphone a common household item (Which i suspect had more to do with the fact that technology had advanced to a point where they were feasible)

They were not the first ones to make "smartphones" either, previously they were commonly known as PDA's or PocketPC's, but again, due to various reasons, one of them you mention, it wasn't very popular outside of the business segment.

Most of the patents fought over these days are not even technology, but simply processes, processes that Apple didn't even come up with either.

68k said,
Would mobile phone technology have got to the point where it is today if Apple wasn't around? No. Apple completely revolutionized the market. Before the iPhone, there was Windows Mobile on resistive touch displays.

Motorola may have come up with the theory 20 years ago, but Apple made it a reality. Therefore, I think this case should be scrapped.

That's one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Motorola didn't come up with a mobile phone "theory", they MADE THE FIRST MOBILE PHONE. Apple didn't ENTER THE MARKET until 20 YEARS LATER. Without Motorola, there isn't just no iphone, there's no any-phone. Everything that is core to cell phones is based on Motorola's technology.

Apple takes everyone's technology and makes it shiny. They're not innovators.

68k said,
Before the iPhone, there was Windows Mobile on resistive touch displays.

Sorry but you don't know what you're talking about. The LG Prada was the first capacitive phone. Heck there could have been one before that for all I know too.

68k said,
Would mobile phone technology have got to the point where it is today if Apple wasn't around? No. Apple completely revolutionized the market. Before the iPhone, there was Windows Mobile on resistive touch displays.

Motorola may have come up with the theory 20 years ago, but Apple made it a reality. Therefore, I think this case should be scrapped.

nonsense; Apple was selling a phone that had less and cost more; the big improvement was:
- brand (Apple brand meaned intuitive design, aesthetics and easy to use);
- iOS, made by Apple (iOS was selled like better then everything that ever existed, with all the animations and apps, neverminding not being capable of doing simple tasks that Windows Mobile, Blackberry or even Symbian could do, the major competidors at the time).
- getting people to fork much more for a phone; Nokia tried and failed to do this (remember Nokia Sirocco?) but Apple managed thanks to their business model and branding.

If anything Apple is great at marketing it's own products.

subcld said,

fail i don't even have a single apple product

you fail too because Apple was the first to start this lawsuites... Motorola has been in phone business for years and they have not done like this before... apple is one who should be banned.

simplezz said,
It's about time Apple got a taste of their own medicine. I hope all their products get banned.

As long as all of Samsungs products get banned. Or do you have some actual reasoning/evidence about wanting to ban all of Apple's products?

DomZ said,

As long as all of Samsungs products get banned. Or do you have some actual reasoning/evidence about wanting to ban all of Apple's products?

Back in grade school, Apple use to pick on him and push him off of the slide.

omgben said,

Back in grade school, Apple use to pick on him and push him off of the slide.

Maybe thats the reason for his hate toward MS.

DomZ said,

As long as all of Samsungs products get banned. Or do you have some actual reasoning/evidence about wanting to ban all of Apple's products?

Probably because Apple has been going around with these silly lawsuits trying to ban other people, and he feels that Apple deserves to be put in its place?

andrewbares said,

Probably because Apple has been going around with these silly lawsuits trying to ban other people, and he feels that Apple deserves to be put in its place?

Apple are just enforcing their patents. I have no problem if other companies start doing this to Apple, what I do find hypocritical is people bashing Apple when they do it calling them evil, but when another company does it we should 'ban all Apple products'. Fanboys at their best.

DomZ said,

Apple are just enforcing their patents. I have no problem if other companies start doing this to Apple, what I do find hypocritical is people bashing Apple when they do it calling them evil, but when another company does it we should 'ban all Apple products'. Fanboys at their best.


then whats wrong with motorola enforcing their patents

remixedcat said,
hello moto!

No! Moto go to hell! This patent BS back and forth needs to stop for everybody's sake.
I agree Apple needs a taste of their own medicine (as do some others), but it's just getting ridiculous now.

What ever happend to the Apple that didnt believe in Big Brother watching over them and that who cared what anyone else made because Apple's stuff was better made?

shadodemon said,
What ever happend to the Apple that didnt believe in Big Brother watching over them and that who cared what anyone else made because Apple's stuff was better made?

its not made better any more, that's the problem

Som said,

its not made better any more, that's the problem


One thing that doesn't change is Apple haters; they hated them before and still hate them today.

a0me said,

One thing that doesn't change is Apple haters; they hated them before and still hate them today.

Seems more like Apple Fanboi's never change, declaring anyone who dares to stand up to Apple to be a "hater"

I see 14 "Likers" below hoping Apple products will be banned in the US - Go Moto / Google!;

dvb2000 said,

Seems more like Apple Fanboi's never change, declaring anyone who dares to stand up to Apple to be a "hater"

I see 14 "Likers" below hoping Apple products will be banned in the US - Go Moto / Google!;


That didn't make any sense at all.