MP3 Player Owners Thieves?

MP3 Player owners are "thieves", according to Universal Music CEO, Doug Morris. Morris was discussing Microsoft's recent attempt to buy its way into the music industry by paying a $1 per unit royalty on Zune players sold.

The music boss revealed that he had insisted on such a royalty in order to include Universal's music catalogue on the Zune marketplace. "These devices are just repositories for stolen music, and they all know it," Morris said. "It's time to get paid for it," he added, according to Billboard.

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someone put a flaming bad of dog **** on his porch!!!!!!!

sorry... but I really can't be bothered to think of some original rebuttle to this utter drivel...... I admit I have a few illigal songs.... BUT thats becasue I can't get them LEGALLY!!... I have over 340 cd's... all 100 percent legal.... so now I use an ipod.. I'm a thief ?

would someone shove an ipod up his ass!!!!!!.. he's allready an ass bandit!

u got a real good point there! ... cause even though us more technical people posting in here know about it... u can damn sure bet the average joe dont know anything about DRM or care about the RIAA.

but then again the average joe dont care about how they get there music either... if they can get it free u can bet "most" (as in majority) people will get it for free

The record execs just hate the idea of a la carte because they're used to all of the filler music that is put onto albums that make them more money, but they don't realize that a la carte brings more volume of business that would more than offset the inflated profits they're used to sitting on.

People like him (and the RIAA) are just frightened to death that their precious 50 year old business plan is slipping away and the fact is we don't need dinosaur music companies like Universal.

downloading music should be free and bands could earn their money from royalties and playing live.

He is terrified that if we realised this he would be out of a job.

BTW I am an MP3 player owner and I resent the allegation that I am a thief.

How can we email this guy and tell him he's an *******?

So like I was considering boycotting the RIAA for a while, but now I'm really gonna do it. I'm already labeled as a theif so why even bother buying the music?

Quote - JiveMasterT said @ #61
How can we email this guy and tell him he's an *******?

So like I was considering boycotting the RIAA for a while, but now I'm really gonna do it. I'm already labeled as a theif so why even bother buying the music?


scroll back up to post #41. RIAA may soon be in for the time of their lives.

It's TIME to d-d-d-d-d dddddddddddddduel!!! No, it's time to make a flash cartoon about that nut and stuff it in his face Leave it to me!

That's a little slanderous is it not? I know many people who don't have pirated music on their MP3 players or their PC's. They are just honest people.
I'm not denying that he has a bit of a point, but he's being to extreme to conclude that everyone that owns an MP3 player is a music pirate. That appears to be what he is suggesting. I wonder how long before Joe Blogs/John Doe decides to sue him for branding them a thief when they could prove they are not.

This is incorrect if you download music you are NOT a thief. It's not stealing, its just copying, know one gets hurt.

And they wonder why, with this sort of comment, why nobody gives a rats ass about them or their "losses" anymore? I own an MP3 player which is full of MP3s from both my own LEGALLY PURCHASED CDs and from DRM'd music stores, all paid for and legal...yet im being called a thief anyway? **** you then pal, care to explain to me why i should care about how many people "steal" from you after you call me a criminal? Because im damned if i see why i should do anything other than laugh heartily at you and your declining sales. Hell if im going to be called a thief anyway, i may just as well go download 200 albums off Bittorrent right now since im apparently a criminal either way.

Those "poor starving artists" who hate music pirates and thieves so much ought to take a long look at who is representing them, before they come to places like this and whine too hard or use those crappy "so if i took something you worked on for years and gave it away for nothing, would that be ok?" comparisons...my sympathy levels have a habit of shutting down when they let douchebags like this CEO fight their battles for them in such utterly moronic ways.

Quote - Wolfsglen said @ #52
And they wonder why, with this sort of comment, why nobody gives a rats ass about them or their "losses" anymore? I own an MP3 player which is full of MP3s from both my own LEGALLY PURCHASED CDs and from DRM'd music stores, all paid for and legal...yet im being called a thief anyway? **** you then pal, care to explain to me why i should care about how many people "steal" from you after you call me a criminal? Because im damned if i see why i should do anything other than laugh heartily at you and your declining sales. Hell if im going to be called a thief anyway, i may just as well go download 200 albums off Bittorrent right now since im apparently a criminal either way.

Those "poor starving artists" who hate music pirates and thieves so much ought to take a long look at who is representing them, before they come to places like this and whine too hard or use those crappy "so if i took something you worked on for years and gave it away for nothing, would that be ok?" comparisons...my sympathy levels have a habit of shutting down when they let douchebags like this CEO fight their battles for them in such utterly moronic ways.

i realized this about 2 years ago, which is when i stopped buying. they're all a$$holes just like this guy

I don't own an MP3 player and I do own about 8000 MP3's (of which 6000 were obtained using questionable services)...
I'm glad I'm not a thief since I don't own an MP3 player...

The only thing I was able to make out of what that CEO said was "wah, cry, boohoo, I need my diaper changed". Greed and arrogance is what drives the music industry. They make billions a year but are somehow getting ripped off? Riiiiiight

I own all the cds for the tracks I have on my ipod >.>

I do download music, but if they're anything I like or listen to over and over I'd buy the cds to properly own them (so I never buy tracks online, I like owning the cd with a booklet), I'm probably just trying to justify myself but I really don't think what I'm doing is the same as stealing, downloading jpgs of art pieces isn't the same as stealing a painting that's a billion dollars.

Ditto... I must say I'm quite surprised of the person who is unable to imagine owning 1000 cds... I have more than 500 in my collection... Which I've bought over the last 15 years. And a lot of the cds I've purchased have been ones I've pre-listened by downloading.

Just a thought - isn't this mass-libel or something. He has openly accused people of a crime without any proof.

Also, this is such a 1990's attitude. Surely ALL recording companies (major, small or indpendant) realise that audio purchases and storage will be completely digital within a decade or so!?

I just love the fact that one of the biggest makers of mp3 players is Sony.
As in Sony BMG, one of the largest music companys. How can they argue thats its naughty if they are stealing both ends of the wallet?

I dont get to the music shops much, i will normally download an album, then when im there, i buy in bulk and catch up.

TIP- *PROBABLY* not a good idea to accuse the entire population of mp3 player owners (the majority of which are NOT pirates) of stealing music. Makes the legal buyers of music feel underappreciated for actually "doing the right thing"...... why bother if youre still going to be called a pirate.

yeah DRM is a load of bull**** considering how easy it is to get mp3's anyway

i'd pay more often if songs didn't have them because quite honestly almost every song on the internets for sale has an mp3 equilivant on p2p networks

Quote - omgbomb said @ #44
yeah DRM is a load of bull**** considering how easy it is to get mp3's anyway

i'd pay more often if songs didn't have them because quite honestly almost every song on the internets for sale has an mp3 equilivant on p2p networks

don't know if it will be recognized here for its potential as a fair-use tool and not a piracy tool, but there exists a program which can free iTunes songs from their DRM. I buy songs from iTunes, but I don't own an iPod. How can I then enjoy my music on my other MP3 player? www.hymn-project.org

Helped me loads.

Quote - Sp3ctranova said @ #44.1
I buy songs from iTunes, but I don't own an iPod. How can I then enjoy my music on my other MP3 player?

You sound like that ignorant guy who sued Apple because he couldn't play the songs he bought from iTunes on other players besides the iPod. It's just plain stupid to buy from a store KNOWING AHEAD OF TIME that the music won't work on other players. I'm not dumb enough to buy songs from the Zune store and bitch about it because they won't work on my iPod.

And guess what? If your player doesn't support AAC, then I can assume that you are converting from one lossy format to another, so you are getting a poor quality file. Brilliant idea there.

bottom line for me is i refuse to pay for MP3's through companys like apple etc when u got DRM on them cause there limited in use compared to regularly riped MP3's from audio cd's.

and also regular audio cd's should NEVER cost more than $12.99 (MAX) for a regular audio cd.... anything over that i consider expensive especially when the artist dont even see much if any of that money... cause i could give two f***s less about the greedy record execs like the guy who made the comment in the topic.

ill be honest ... it's been a while since i actually bought a music cd i think it was like 2003-2004ish... but the last time i actually bought quite a few music cd's was like in 1998-1999... so basically it's been since like 1998ish since i actually bought several cd's. (basically since those days though there aint been that much "good music" thats worth buying, so thats probably alot of the reason i aint bought many music cd's reguardless if u pirate or not)

plus im probably in the minority on this comment... cause im pretty picky on what i will "go out of my way to listen to" ... so in recent times there aint been much music thats been worth buying... and the ones i do actually like , well... lets just say i got em in a shady sorta way (which was only a few albums,... one of the albums i was considering buying cause it was only $9.99 which i consider a good price for a music cd but what made me say screw it was cause it had copy protection on it)

but generally speaking like i mentioned above... i dont listen to a huge variety of music like alot of people on here probably do.... so me buying albums in general (reguardless if it's legal or not) wont really happen very often cause there aint much music to me thats "worth" buying/going out of my way to listen to .... theres some but not much.

so u tell me whats more appealing to u.... free mp3's without DRM or any limitations OR crap like apple's itunes with DRM and limits on it's use PLUS u gotta buy that crap? (plus not to mention i heard it's sound quality aint all that great either) ... i dont even need to answer this one

should have directed Mr. Morris here

he could go to RIAA and ask for his money. wouldn't it be wonderful if RIAA has to pay back all the people it took money from? heh.....

Quote - Moker said @ #41
should have directed Mr. Morris here

he could go to RIAA and ask for his money. wouldn't it be wonderful if RIAA has to pay back all the people it took money from? heh.....

owned

A small proportion of my music collection is illegitimate. But it's ironic that this guy is bad-mouthing iPod users when it's iTunes and the other online services that are luring people away from pirating.

Exactly. To be quite honest $9 for a complete album is reasonable to me and is worth my time.

Lets see, spend a couple of hours looking for tracks all over P2P networks to get a complete album...or log into iTMS and have my album in about 10 minutes.

Or spend 5 minutes to get it through BitTorrent ;)

But you're right, if I see an album that sounds good on iTunes, I'm likely to just buy it on the spot.

Or spend 5 minutes to get it through BitTorrent
I don't know why everyone thinks bit torrent is so fast. I have rarely ever seen much difference than from any other p2p network. It still depends on other users seeding to you.

another thief that want make money without work. And I bet he will be even more millionaire. What a **** place the world is becoming thanks to corporations...

I suppose they think that if more than one person listens to a song and those others didn't pay for it than they are stealing it. Or if one hums the tune. They are shooting themselves in the foot.

Ha ha ha ok, yeah, let's see you say that to a judge or a lawyer and see how hard they laugh in your face.

I guess bank robberies, looting, and identity theft is ok too!

Next time, check your facts before you open your mouth.

Quote - C_Guy said @ #35.1
Ha ha ha ok, yeah, let's see you say that to a judge or a lawyer and see how hard they laugh in your face.

I guess bank robberies, looting, and identity theft is ok too!

Next time, check your facts before you open your mouth.

shut up, what an ignorant comment that is, and its totally different so you can justify it you noob!

There is a difference, money cannot be replicated easily, but data can so its just copyright control there idiot! GET your facts straight!

That is a good argument. If anyone busts you for copyright infringement you can argue that your purchase of the player paid for royalties of the music on it and you have a clean slate.

Quote - trenzterra said @ #34
So by paying that $1 royalty does this mean that we are all free to download pirated tracks? :rolleyes:

You're only allowed to download songs by artists signed to Universal.

They are correct, most of people dont buy mp3s just download it using p2p programs.

And a lot of people lie and say all 200gb of music in their pcs are legal or just dont like to admit they downloaded...

The fact is that the time has changed, the industry of music need to find other ways to make money, selling a cd with 10 musics today is a joke.

I reckon the record industry is bo**ocks anyway, half the music they promote is ****. If you want good music go find it yourself why do we need a bunch of loosers telling us whats good and whats not.

Anyway what are the bettings morris has never robbed or bought something robbed in his life?

BTW if $1 goes to that tw*t don't by a Zune.

Peace right out.

I have read the post, I have read the replies, and all I can say is "What a jackass comment". Problem is - being a CEO, his marketing dept will not be able to hang him out to dry on this.

Most people think that musicians make their money from royalties – what a joke that is, the only money an artists sees is in the event of them being paid a figure to sign a contract deal – from then on the only other money they will make is from touring.

Royalties are conveniently eaten up by the record companies to cover the costs of creating the CD, from the royalties they will take out marketing costs/ recording time costs and so on.

This is exactly why I decided to only purchase from indie/unsigned/self promoting bands and the rest that aren't backed by huge money in their pocket record labels. I recently purchased a cd from a local band who are signed to a company that isn't overly huge and I know for a fact they got a good portion of the money from my purchase and everyone else who bought their cds. Why? because I'm friends with them and talk to them regularly and they've told me so. They're not backed by greedy corporate buggers who are just desperate for money. So for a band like them, I have no problem paying anymore. It'll go to a good cause such as helping out the band, and I know they really get their money. I will openly admit I haven't purchased many cds recently (I've had a few as gifts) but I do download most especially rare/bootlegged stuff. I know Neowin is against such discussions of piration but I'm not stating my sources (anyone with enough brains can find that out on their own). For bands that I know have money, I will not download anymore and you can say that's bad because I should support them but I do in many other ways. They don't need more millions, especially to show support. I play guitar and hope to one day have a band and get music out but you know what, as much as I'll see my music, I'll still always provide it freely too. The purchase will be an option for those passionate and dedicated to the band. And that's the way I think it should be. Not to show how much you like a band, with them not even seeing the money. Plus, I have a feeling piration is not going to stop so might as well give it free anyone and for those who care enough to purchase, all the better.

And yes my mp3 player does have some content ripped off cds but a majority is not.

I'm pretty sure last time I checked, none of the execs in the music industry, nor the artists they represent were having financial hardships. I don't think there is a lack of cash flow in that area. Poor music artists, not being able to give out free Cristal to all of their guests at their party. I'm sorry if they had to settle for a 500CL Benz instead of a 600. I wonder how they'll survive.

If they want to be paid, they better make it legal. In spain we do pay for every cdr and dvdr sold, we pay the music industry. They expect us to pay and then to not copy?

Hey I never thought of that before but you're right. I guess we are already paying them so why should we feel like we can't copy?

Its not so much the money left in my pocket... but if I buy a legit copy of a track, I'll end up downloading it again on wideopen mp3 anyway. Its just so much easier, and much less faffing about than with DRM

Wow people with 'genuine' collections make me laugh

You may feel better about yourself, but hey we're the ones with the hundreds of dollars still in our pockets.

That exec is pretty much right on the money, and there's nothing he can do about it

Quote - choisir said @ #23
Wow people with 'genuine' collections make me laugh

You may feel better about yourself, but hey we're the ones with the hundreds of dollars still in our pockets.

That exec is pretty much right on the money, and there's nothing he can do about it :D

You do realize if no one bought music.. there wouldn't be any music... so you may want to thank the people who buy msuic.

Quote - Jeev said @ #23.1

You do realize if no one bought music.. there wouldn't be any music... so you may want to thank the people who buy msuic.


I'm not too worried. Give it 5-10 years and the music industry will have to find a new money generating model anyway.

But there's no point in getting all offended by this guy, frankly, it's the truth for the most part. If an mp3 player came out that only played licensed drm music would it sell?

Quote - Jeev said @ #23.1

You do realize if no one bought music.. there wouldn't be any music... so you may want to thank the people who buy msuic.

Don't let the music die!!!!!!! ;)

You realize some people think commerce corrupts art?

Quote - Jeev said @ #23.1

You do realize if no one bought music.. there wouldn't be any music... so you may want to thank the people who buy msuic.

Music wouldn't stop if people didn't buy it. There's so much high-quality free music available on the internet these days. That's the wonderful thing about technology. With all of the different kinds of hardware and software available for audio production, an artist doesn't have to get "signed" anymore. He or she can self-produce and self-publish works on the internet.

Some of us artists do believe that music should be free.

Yes, music dying because people not getting paid is like saying art dying because artists aren't getting paid (and if you believe in that, just go to DeviantArt or wherever). These forms of culture dying is simply not going to happen, and from the free music I've listened to, I'm not even sure the quality would worsen much. People being passionate about making music besides another job would still do it, and they'd still even be able to profit from it in other ways than direct music sales.

Quote - Jeev said @ #23.1
You do realize if no one bought music.. there wouldn't be any music... so you may want to thank the people who buy msuic.

I see you've bought into the RIAA's BS. For thousands of years, there was music before there ever was a recording industry. It is only in the last 100 years or so that people have thought of music as a way to make a living (the occasional composer not included).

What a ********! With an attitude like that, things are not going to change for the record industry.
On the bright side, Universal only sign up crappy pop queens, so they dont need to worry about me stealing their no-talent commercially manufactured "music".

Someone shove something in this guy's mouth and stop him from spewing such garbage.

I own ZERO pirated songs. If I rip them from my legally purchased CD's and transfer them to my Zune or other MP3 player it's my right to and I don't owe anyone any additional money for it.

Sure, for some people their media player is a collection of stolen music. But making the assumption that we're all thieves is ignorant, incredibly selfish, and just plain wrong.

In Canada, we already have to pay levies on blank media which is also stupid because how many CDs do people buy to backup their own data or move files around? Well, for each CD a certain amount of money goes back to Canadian artists. So, if I burn a backup CD, Shania Twain gets money. Unreal.

What's worse is, for those who use blank media to pirate software, the levi's still go to artists, not to software companies.

I say its time for the industry to stop abusing it's law-abiding customers. You're giving us (or me at least) less and less reason to be law-abiding. Why shoudl I be on your side or RIAA's side when you're so abusive to me?

Get ready for a back-lash.

I love people who pretend that they didn't download their MP3s from online and without paying for them. And/or got them from friends/strangers for free as well.

Me, I got an assload of bootleg MP3s, tons from newsgroups - easily 100x, no 1000x that that I could have ripped from the CDs I actually own. I haven't bought a CD since, what, the late 90s. Why should I? Every single track I could ever buy (and more) is available via bittorrent, P2P and newgroups + friends. Why do people feel the need to lie about it?

The same guys who are downloading MP3s are the guys who hand me a DVD-R with "Incredibles" scribbled on it in marker. The ones with the unlimited giganews accounts. Tell me, can you give me a reason to have a giganews account to read text messages? I don't konw of an ISP that doesn't give you, what, a gig a month to download for free. Can you read more than a gig of text messages? Oh. What? You say you are downloading binaries from the newsgroups? Hmm... tell me... what legal content is up there? Sure, there is some but lets take an honest look at things... lets see mp3 and warez make up 95% of all the content in newsgroups.

People, don't lie about it... bitch about the prices they charge for CDs and concerts, sure. Bitch about poor quality "special edition" DVDs and reissues. I'm there with ya. But to pretend you don't download MP3s and MPEGs cause you won't pay for it? Oh puhlease!

And, yes, I DID rip the CDs I own too. Ripped them to lossless WMAs (not flac or ape, so that I can actually play them on portable players, duh!) to preserve quality since I wasn't uploading them afterwards.

At last, some honesty.
:D

Mostly downloaded tracks on my player.
However, I have actually bought more CDs over the last few years than ever, thanks in part to lovely 'illegal' downloading.

i'm surprised they're not going the other way... saying everyone should have a personal music device. if someone plays a song on a stereo, there's too many people listening who haven't paid $$!!

next step, music biz takes over the hearing aid industry and implements drm

I would seriously not be surprised if the RIAA started serving up subpoenas to people who play music in their cars or on their stereos loud enough to be heard by other people.

DomG, I really wish they would, especially the guy who likes to park in the driveway of the house next door to mine and rattle my windows early in the morning, often waking up my 8 month old son.

Damn the RIAA and the recording industry in general. So I guess I'm a criminal because I own an MP3 player? This guy and the recording industry in general are the criminals, they should be locked up, not anyone else.

How long can these morons get away with bad mouthing their customers?!

All of the music on my iPod is legal for heavens sake! So fed up with these guys shouting their mouths off.. arrrgghh!!

If they had their way we'd have to pay for the same music over and over again as they seem totally unaware of Fair Use and consumer rights!

I'll freely admit that I was a huge music pirate until I got my iPod. Once I saw the library available on iTunes Store, realized how cheap it was to purchase albums, and how fast you can get the album from them, I turned away from pirating music. The last 10 albums I acquired were legally purchased through iTunes Store, of that 10 albums 4 were conversions from pirated music to legally owned. I have every intent of turning all my songs legal as I get extra money to do so.

Look who's calling a kettle black - The music industry is one of the biggest mafia type organisations in the world. Just ask anyone who has been used and spit out about this.

Most people think that musicians make their money from royalties – what a joke that is, the only money an artists sees is in the event of them being paid a figure to sign a contract deal – from then on the only other money they will make is from touring.

Royalties are conveniently eaten up by the record companies to cover the costs of creating the CD, from the royalties they will take out marketing costs/ recording time costs and so on.

To me the recording companies are nothing more than a marketing company – don’t get me wrong most artists would not see the light of day if not for the record companies.

This is where the paradox comes in - music artists need the backing of their record company to be recognised – once this has happens then they can tour and earn a living – if you download music – you are not necessarily hurting the artist as they are not getting money from the CD anyway – but without the record company making a CD then they cannot be noticed.

The day of the record companies having total control of the management of music is fast coming to an end – in order to survive they need to look at other models to run their business by. What they are most afraid of is if the music artists find a new way to get recognised without using them – as some bands have already started to do. This is what they are really afraid of - that the internet will make them redundant.

That's perfectly true.

How many times recently have you heard a big label, major brand name or well know name jump on the band wagon of offering Music/TV/Film downloads and talking it up like they are offering something innovative and brilliant. Realistically the service they are offering has been done to death years earlier by the "geeks" of the internet and sold on at a *huge* profit to a big company who pioneered it to Joe Public at the right time. Or at least a time earlier than now.

Why not go to the source and go after the hard disk / memory manufactures for a kickbacks. Then that covers all devices that can be used as repositories for stolen music.

Yes, we're all thieves. We should all handcuff each other and turn ourselves in. The RIAA will take us to court, we'll plead guilty, and somehow, the RIAA will still lose the case.

The licensing system that iTunes and Zune use is criminal. The same could be said about how large companies operate, but to label everyone like this is uncalled for.

The older you grow the more you realize that every human being is a hypocrite and criminal to an extent.

Quote - zivan56 said @ #3
I would call the recording industry "thieves," as they are clearly using RIAA for extortion purposes.

thats right! who are the real thieves here!?

Quote - noroom said @ #2.2
No, he has a few CDs and bought some music online.

11,000? Say 100 CDs at 10 tracks each, that's 1000. So, he bought 10,000 tracks online at, what, 99 cents each? He paid $10K to some online service to download tracks?

(Meanwhile, I paid <$100 to Giganews to download 96,000 MP3s)

Quote - Drestin said @ #2.3

11,000? Say 100 CDs at 10 tracks each, that's 1000. So, he bought 10,000 tracks online at, what, 99 cents each? He paid $10K to some online service to download tracks?

(Meanwhile, I paid <$100 to Giganews to download 96,000 MP3s)

You realize there's something like "free music"?

Quote - Drestin said @ #2.1
You have 1000 CDs you paid for? I find that hard to believe..

I have neigh on £250,000 worth of music.

Some of us pay retail, some of us browse boot markets/flea markets, some of us have their fathers and his fathers collections.

I can goto music shops in Soho and pick up albums (vinyls) cd's, singles etc for as little as 10 pence.

So adding up all my singles, vinyl & cassete tapes must be touching £250,000 worth, I have a whole room full of the stuff.

80 years worth.

Last cd purchased was Chapterhouse from amazon (2 days ago) I wanted it on cd as I have it on cassette and I didn't want to waste a good first edition cassete.

So nuh.


Quote - leesmithg said @ #2.6

I have neigh on £250,000 worth of music.

Some of us pay retail, some of us browse boot markets/flea markets, some of us have their fathers and his fathers collections.

I can goto music shops in Soho and pick up albums (vinyls) cd's, singles etc for as little as 10 pence.

So adding up all my singles, vinyl & cassete tapes must be touching £250,000 worth, I have a whole room full of the stuff.

80 years worth.

Last cd purchased was Chapterhouse from amazon (2 days ago) I wanted it on cd as I have it on cassette and I didn't want to waste a good first edition cassete.

So nuh.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

^^This!

I've calmed down a bit since my student days, but there were times I'd rather buy a new CD than eat. Is this mainly a UK affliction?

Quote - Drestin said @ #2.1
You have 1000 CDs you paid for? I find that hard to believe..

I have well over 1,000 CDs. Started getting them back in 88, then got a majority of them when I DJ'd at an industrial club from 93-96.

I definitely don't buy music like I used to.

Quote - Havin_it said @ #2.7

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

^^This!

I've calmed down a bit since my student days, but there were times I'd rather buy a new CD than eat. Is this mainly a UK affliction?

Maybe you prefer to take drugs, smoke and drink, I prefer to spend my money on music, I can't play an instrument, I doubt I can sing, however I like to hear others perform, so I buy their music if I like it.

I know personally a music critic that gets 300 cd's to him per month to listen to and write comments in a magazine he works for.

Not all cd's cost an arm and a leg.

Most I ever paid was £18.99 for a U2 CD, however I have a single a first release worth £400, no big deal.

I have a lot of Pink Floyd first issue music also, The Who, Police, Rod Stewart all my fathers, which is worth a lot of money, I won't sell them.

I know of people with bigger collections than me.

I am small time compared to them.

Quote - Drestin said @ #2.1
You have 1000 CDs you paid for? I find that hard to believe..

You know you don't have to pay high prices for used CDs right? I can go to the local used music store and fine a bunch of CDs that cost anywhere from $1.00 to $5.00. At prices like that it's not hard to believe somebody would have purchased 1,000 CDs in a life time. Also as somebody already stated you can inherit music from other family members such as your father, mother, sister, or brother.

Anyways I have a friend who is really into music and I don't doubt he has at least 500 CDs and he's only 23, give him another 23 years I'm sure he will have over 1,000.

Quote - Drestin said @ #2.1
You have 1000 CDs you paid for? I find that hard to believe..

what's hard to believe about it? I've been buying cd's for a long, long time and have close to 1000 myself.

Me also. Not a single downloaded track in my few thousand song collection, or at least nothing that wasnt legally downloaded.