MPAA wins case forcing BT to block Usenet index

It's obvious that Hollywood is still trying to kill a fly with a stick of dynamite. The MPAA convinced a British court to force BT to block access to Newzbin.com back in July. Now the BBC reports that BT has two weeks to implement a block of the popular Usenet indexing site. Of greater interest is the fact that the judge has ruled that BT is responsible not only for blocking the current site, but also any future IP address or name that they may move their site to.

While it’s true that the site gives users the ability to find and download copyrighted material, the question as to who should be liable has been a hotly contested debate. Newzbin.com is nothing more than Google for Usenet binary forums and isn’t actually partaking in any illegal activity, so should the site be responsible? It’s almost impossible to stop access to a site on the internet as people in China can attest to. The MPAA has to realize that there are a dozen ways to move the site and since access is only blocked in the UK, a proxy server is one of a number of simple workarounds.

In addition, the fact that the courts believe BT is responsible simply because the infringement occurred using their network is also a slippery slope. Is AT&T responsible when a crime is organized using their cellular network? Is FedEx responsible for an illegally copied DVD shipped via their service? The lines are definitely blurred in the digital age.

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"Last month and before the court-ordered ISP level block of Usenet indexing site Newzbin2 even came into effect, the site launched a home-grown tool to defeat it. TeamRDogs - the group behind the site - released Newzbin Client 1.0.0.127, the first public piece of software designed to circumvent ISP BT's Cleanfeed censorship system, the tool the MPA hopes can neutralize Newzbin2 in the UK.
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If I remember correctly, They are going to add this to Cleanfeed which is BT's site blocking system mainly used to block child porn websites. Dont quote me this but I remember reading Cleanfeed doesn't just filter these sites for BT's subscribers, it does it for all ISP's that wholesale from BT which is most major ISPs in the UK.

This is a questionable practice but I am not surprised it got passed.

If I remember correctly, They are going to add this to Cleanfeed which is BT's site blocking system mainly used to block Child Porn websites. Dont quote me this but I remember reading Cleanfeed doesn't just filter these sites for BT's subscribers, it does it for all ISP's that wholesale from BT which is most major ISPs in the UK.

This is a questionable practice but I am not surprised it got passed.

Awesome, the European Union has Net Neutrality =D new bill passed recently.
Censorship is NOT allowed, the court ruling of belgium blocking TPB will be lifted too

Thats what you get UK for not joining the European Union and only the EEC

Shadowzz said,
Awesome, the European Union has Net Neutrality =D new bill passed recently.
Censorship is NOT allowed, the court ruling of belgium blocking TPB will be lifted too

Thats what you get UK for not joining the European Union and only the EEC

We are part of the EU...

I think your confusing the EU either the Euro

And I always thought it would be the government that would bring about the censorship of the internet. Turns out that it was the corporations after all.

Unwonted said,
And I always thought it would be the government that would bring about the censorship of the internet. Turns out that it was the corporations after all.

One and the same is it not?

Oh great. MPAA actually convinced some judge to hold the ISP responsible?!? I can see the censorship tactics skyrocketing through the proverbial roof since BT (and any future ISP's that fall prey to this legislation) will do anything they can to protect themselves from the sue happy MPAA. Holding AT&T responsible for crimes using the cellular network is a good point. Indeed the slippery slope looks to be now covered in a thick coat of MPAA oil.

Oh and one more thing - holding BT responsible for wherever Newzbin.com moves their site is absurd. How are they going to know if Newzbin.com gets alternate domains? What if they decide to distribute their site worldwide using multiple data centers and continually add capacity? Now BT has to have someone on the inside of Newzbin.com to keep up with what their plans are?! Absolutely crazy!

astrokat said,
I am pretty sure that if they block by IP - those clients will be rendered useless?

If they block the IPs, then Newzbin would just get a different IP. Beyond that, if it's a search site, you are connecting to your own newsgroup servers, just getting the NZB from Newzbin. The content comes from another server.

JJ_ said,
I wonder how much coercion it took the MPAA to persuade the judge. For those interested in getting the latest Newsbin.com client, links are below (get it before before the great firewall of BT stops you)

https://payments.newzbin.com/n...etup_n2client.1.0.0.200.exe (Windows XP, Vista, 7)
https://payments.newzbin.com/n...ent.1.0.0.200.intel.app.zip (Mac Intel OS X 10.4+)
https://payments.newzbin.com/n...t.1.0.0.200.powerpc.app.zip (Mac PowerPC OS X 10.4+)

think we are already passed the bad road. after what Oakland rogue cops did last night/ this morning. I don't particularly care. really none of this interests me anymore when Blu rays came out. albeit if you know dvdfab, well we'll ignore that. I mainly trade in adult vids. thats trade, thats not copy. thanks to mp3fund.com (used to be mp3search.ru ) they've turned me on to many new foreign bands and if I like those enough I'll pay some good money to get the real cd's. (Tangerine Dream is a given though. ) allofmp3 is still around but really can't say that website. bit tricky to pay into it. just think of elvis and you have part of the website. otherwise. I own 1000 movies dvds, bd's, a few OOP VHS, uh laserdiscs and CED's which no one has. Vinyl video anyone? now if only I had a $50 needle...