MS denies Rumor: undecided on last 32-bit Windows Client

Bill Laing, a General Manager in the Microsoft Windows Server Division, has been quoted as saying that Windows Server 2008 will be the last 32-bit operating system. Bill is a server guy and indeed Windows Server 2008 is the last 32-bit server operating system – all future operating systems for server hardware from Microsoft beyond Windows Server 2008 will be 64-bit.

A few folks took Bill's comments on Windows Server and applied them to Windows Client deriving that Windows Vista would be the last 32-bit operating system. That is an incorrect extension. While Windows Vista includes both 32-bit and 64-bit and there is a growing community of drivers for 64-bit Windows Vista we have not decided when Windows Client will follow Windows Server and become 64-bit only.

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Lets face it, I very much doubt the next "Major" Version of Windows will run well on less then 4GB of RAM unless microsoft does some serious work on thier programming skills.
So I say out with the 32 and in with the 64.

Vegetunks said,
Lets face it, I very much doubt the next "Major" Version of Windows will run well on less then 4GB of RAM unless microsoft does some serious work on thier programming skills.
So I say out with the 32 and in with the 64.

You do realize that Windows doesn't actually use ALL the memory it sucks up, right? It reserves it incase it needs it, but will release it if necessary.

The problem is that hardware tends to be durable enough that it outlasts the desire of the vendor to support it.

Once an item is off the market, good drivers are no longer a valuable selling point; if anything, they can use the lack of them to try and force customers to upgrade. Look at how nVidia doesn't want to offer chipset drivers for anything older than the nForce 4.

That's what's killing x86-64 OS adoption.

I have a very reasonable Athlon X2 system, which rates well over 4 on the Vista Experience doohickey. But if I want to go for the 64-bit version, and get the same degree of compatibility I have with Win2000 (judging from my Vista RC experience), I'd have to replace a TV card (made in 2002), and a SCSI card (made in 1997). That's another $80 or more (depending what exactly I buy) on top of the price of the OS, and assuming (which I was unable to do at RC time) the sound drivers work properly.

MrCobra said,
That's Microsoft for you.

Or.... you could be like Apple and act like it didn't even happen! Oh SNAP!
(just playin, but flame me if you must)
;-)

they don't want people to switch to linux cus of an older cpu. 32 bit servers do just fine IMO. I don't buy a new pc until the old one catches on fire or something.

Erp. said,
they don't want people to switch to linux cus of an older cpu. 32 bit servers do just fine IMO. I don't buy a new pc until the old one catches on fire or something.

Oh, sure: If you wanna limit yourself to just under 4GB of RAM, go 32-bit for your servers.
The rest of us who run with 64-bit servers will continue to enjoy the option to slot 16+ GB of RAM.
Because we can.

ms should just move the server family to 64bit as servers need that kind of power but slowly move the client side to 64bit from 32bit,after 2010 32bit will need to be phased outand 64bit will need to replace it.

soldier1st said,
ms should just move the server family to 64bit as servers need that kind of power but slowly move the client side to 64bit from 32bit,after 2010 32bit will need to be phased outand 64bit will need to replace it.

The server family IS moving toward 64bit only already. For example, Exchange 2007 is 64-bit only (production), 32-bit versions are ONLY available for testing purposes.

I think it's time to move on to 64bit already, if Microsoft made the announcement officially now then maybe, JUST maybe it'll kick those lazy, hardware vendors that haven't bothered making 64bit drivers for a lot of their stuff, into gear.

I'm building a PC at the end of this year, quite a good PC and I'd like for it to run a 64bit OS, but I'm worried it'll be a headache getting certain pieces of hardware that support 64bit, such as card readers and TV cards =/

Exactly. They need to announce that Windows is going 64bit only now, or else developers won't be ready. Unfortunately it looks like Microsoft is going to drag out the transition for yet another release.

Wow, there has been so much (mis)information going on the last few days over this, it's crazy. First I heard yesterday was that WS2008 was the last server-based OS to be 32-bit. Then they said WS2008 R2 would be the last 32-bit server OS. Then WS2008 was going to be the last 32-bit OS period.

ir0nw0lf said,
Wow, there has been so much (mis)information going on the last few days over this, it's crazy. First I heard yesterday was that WS2008 was the last server-based OS to be 32-bit. Then they said WS2008 R2 would be the last 32-bit server OS. Then WS2008 was going to be the last 32-bit OS period. :wacko:

Thats because they announced that Windows "Server" 2008 will be last 32-bit Server OS from Microsoft. There was no mention or announcement at WinHEC whether Vista will be the last "desktop/client" 32-bit OS.

Server is different from Client.

It's just better for them to start with the Server side and then later on move the client over to 64bit only. Lots of people still use 32bit only, and 64bit on the client side is still pretty messy with lack of good drivers and software support. But I think in 2009 things will be different, if MS sees that the majority are using 64bit over 32bit, then they'll start to move the client over also.

What's the point of supporting 32 bit in a few years? The majority of PC's selling, if not all, are 64 bit, and i imagine in a few years there will be a very small user base with 32 bit procs that will want to run a new version of Windows. Scratch that, that CAN run a new version of windows on their old chuggers. 64 bit needs to take over already, then this driver issue won't be so much of a problem anymore.

It currently costs 35$ CDN to get a 64 bit AM2 Sempron. I'm sure there are some nice budget boards out there for them, too.

It would be STUPID for them to decide 64-bit only at this point.

If there are enough users out there that are willing to send some dollars Microsoft's way for an OS upgrade in the future, you can be sure that Microsoft will take it from them and hand them a 32-bit version of their software.

Was Windows 3.x the last 16-bit operating system? Was Win95 the first 32-bit operating system? I think after Vista, many more people will be buying new computers that come with 64-bit processors as standard equipment. IIRC, all the new Intel Core Duo processors are 64-bit. (At least the C2D in my computer is.)

whats wrong with it being x64 only? i mean damn people LEARN TO FREAKIN UPGRADE your computers. x64 cpus have been out for YEARS already :(

sigh

slyph said,
i mean damn people LEARN TO FREAKIN UPGRADE your computers.

Don't you mean, "Damn, computer companies, LEARN TO FREAKIN UPGRADE your DRIVERS."

I wish people would make their mind up, so now the windows client will still be x86.

I was looking forward to windows going x64 only, it's fun, you never quite now when I driver error will pop-up. :P

I think it's best if they move the Server version over to 64bit only first, since that's where more of the money comes from, for both software and hardware makers. It'll then push everyone to make more 64bit stuff. This will then go downstream to desktops and so on.

Intelligence said,
I wish people would make their mind up, so now the windows client will still be x86.

it will be x86 - all current versions of windows are. people call it x64, which is wrong. the versions should be called x86-32 and x86-64

faraaz said,

it will be x86 - all current versions of windows are. people call it x64, which is wrong. the versions should be called x86-32 and x86-64

wrong... there actually are versions of windows which are TRUE 64-bit platform only.