MSN Messenger gets nixed for iOS, Skype says 'hello'

 

While this will not be a shock for many, MSN Messenger is no longer available for iOS users. The move was imminent, seeing as Microsoft is looking to kill off its antiquated messaging platform in favor of Skype.

Microsoft has chosen to use Skype has its preferred platform for communication and has made it possible for users to merge their Skype and MSN contact lists into a single product. While Skype does have its shortcomings and is far from perfect, we hope that with Microsoft pulling the plug on the MSN messaging platform it will be able to dedicate resources to Skype to fix the outstanding issues.

This move is another step in Microsoft’s efforts to put an end to MSN Messenger, and we expect to see the company remove all instances of the platform from the web in the near future.

If you use MSN Messenger on iOS, we recommend downloading the Skype app and logging in with the appropriate credentials to avoid any potential interruption down the road.

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Windows Live Messenger on iOS was TERRIBLE. Unfortunately the alternative clients are also slightly flaky. Beejive's on the verge of dying with almost abandoned support and only occasional bugfixes. IM+ had a weird bug that caused messages to be spaced out.

Now for Skype on iOS. It's not great but not terrible either. Strange bug is that occasionally all Messenger contacts refuse to show up in my Online contact list until I force an app close and restart Skype. There's also the issue of Skype's servers choosing when they sync messages across devices.

1. As already pointed out it hasn't been called MSN messenger for years, it's Windows Live Messenger or WLM.
2. Get's nixed for iOS? More appropriate headline would be "Windows Live Messenger shutting down, Skype says 'hello'" seeing as how Messenger is being replaced by Skype for all platforms globally (except for China), anyone with a MS account ever logged in to Messenger should have got an email about this recently.

Looks like many readers here don't like Skype, but I recall that many people said they would switch to Skype instead of Windows Live Messenger (WLM) when WLM dropped some of the features in MSN Messenger (such as wink, hand-writing/ drawing board), and many would prefer Skype over MSN Messenger/ WLM for video conference. I still remember that (MSN) Messenger for Mac lack of some features found in Windows version.

However, recently I found that people began to say that Skype is awful, why? Is it (just) because Microsoft bought Skype? Or Skype wasn't good enough long time ago, but due to amount of active users, there wasn't too much people complained those said issues?

(Sorry for my English.)

alxtsg said,
Looks like many readers here don't like Skype, but I recall that many people said they would switch to Skype instead of Windows Live Messenger (WLM) when WLM dropped some of the features in MSN Messenger (such as wink, hand-writing/ drawing board), and many would prefer Skype over MSN Messenger/ WLM for video conference. I still remember that (MSN) Messenger for Mac lack of some features found in Windows version.

However, recently I found that people began to say that Skype is awful, why? Is it (just) because Microsoft bought Skype? Or Skype wasn't good enough long time ago, but due to amount of active users, there wasn't too much people complained those said issues?

(Sorry for my English.)


I never really welcomed the sale of Skype, but thought it'd better be Microsoft than anyone else, because they at least keep their acquired stuff open in some way or another.

I've been using Skype for a long time, but only for about a year very actively. Back then with my former fiancé and now with some more good friends and I'm starting to see its weaknesses.

It's pretty handicapped in the features department compared to WLM/MSN, especially privacy controls and such.
With MSN I was able to set invisible and ignore invisible (appearing online regardless of visible or invisible online state) per contact.
With Skype it's all or nothing and anyone who isn't supposed to see you online you have to block, which is OTT - especially as they disappear from your contact list.

There's more I could go on about, and I already did partly in my previous comments.

So yeah, not the biggest fan of Skype. At least it's wildly adopted and syncs messages, that makes up a little for its many shortcomings.

GS:mac

InsaneNutter said,
Same on Android, then on Windows its full of adverts... however on Mac you get a nice clean interface with no adverts.

I use the Mac client, but it's still awful to chat with.

Audio and video is pretty okay actually and I love the sync of my message history across devices, I really do, but that's about it that's good with Skype as far as I remember.
WLM had a lot on Skype, I simply cannot believe the dumb-down wagon Microsoft has jumped on.
First and foremost they should make the Skype network more reliable for messages and the clients need some major bug ironing out.

Yes, I'm looking at you, push messages, app crashes, late delivery of messages (or complete lack thereof as I'd call it when a message only arrives when the sync to another device that luckily received the particular message (with horrible, horrible delay) is taking place)

GS:mac

I am not a fan of Skype UIs but it's not as horrible as you make it sound by my experience. I use it regularly on an iPad2 and it works pretty good for video calling (I don't use IM much from iPad).

BajiRav said,
I am not a fan of Skype UIs but it's not as horrible as you make it sound by my experience. I use it regularly on an iPad2 and it works pretty good for video calling (I don't use IM much from iPad).

The UI is pretty decent, although it lacks a good chunk of features imho.

So yeah, UI is one more on the list of things that are good on Skype.

GS:mac

Firstly, I'm pretty sure it's been called Windows Live Messenger for a few years now.

Secondly, I'm so sad they are removing this app, and even the entire messenger server and protocol (next year) in favor of a program ment for calling other people. Skype is terrible to chat with, it doesn't have the clean UI that Messenger used to offer.

I've moved on to Trillian on my computer, but I'm really worried about the future of my Lumia 920 that has messenger chat integrated in the sms/messages app.

Flatval said,

Firstly, I'm pretty sure it's been called Windows Live Messenger for a few years now.


Correct. The MSN Messenger branding was axed SEVEN years ago, yet some idiots still call it MSN.

DJGM said,

Correct. The MSN Messenger branding was axed SEVEN years ago, yet some idiots still call it MSN.

I guess it sticks around so long, because many just seem to recall the MSN branding better than the WLM branding.

Also WLM is a weird sounding acronym and seriously, who actually says "Can I add you on Windows Live Messenger?"?
MSN just rolls off the tongue, so people, including me, keep using it.

GS:mac

DJGM said,
Correct. The MSN Messenger branding was axed SEVEN years ago, yet some idiots still call it MSN.

Apparently you completely lack the mental capacity to understand "MSN" became a well established brand in many countries. Like GS explains "MSN" is also a lot easier to use during conversations than "Windows Live Messenger". Most people won't know what you're talking about when using "WLM".

The entire Messenger client is about to be axed soon anyway, so until then, it's best to just
say "Messenger", rather than continuing to use a name that was dropped 7 years ago.

People have got to remember, MSN is nothing more than a large and varied collection of
commercial content portal sites. It's got absolutely nothing to do with instant messaging
services anymore since December 2005. Even less than that from March this year.

DJGM said,
The entire Messenger client is about to be axed soon anyway, so until then, it's best to just
say "Messenger", rather than continuing to use a name that was dropped 7 years ago.

People have got to remember, MSN is nothing more than a large and varied collection of
commercial content portal sites. It's got absolutely nothing to do with instant messaging
services anymore since December 2005. Even less than that from March this year.


You live in a very theoretical word.

Of course I won't add you to a portal, a browser, .... and whatever the hell MSN has been.
I will simply add you to a messenger. Especially if I phrase my question like this: "Can I add you on MSN or Skype?" Mind you: I could even ask you for your "Yahoo" and people will know I don't ask them for hanging out on the Yahoo start page together.

People are not functioning like robots, so they get references like these.

And Messenger is pretty generic and might not always work, because it's not entirely clear which network you mean. (mind you, there are not multiple MSN messenger networks, before you jump into my back saying "MSN" is extinct, so yes, that is clear.)

It's still got a lot to do in language, so relax. People understand it and I will use the quick term for a messenger, especially if the alternative is awkward to use or includes explaining what I actually mean for what reason? To teach people the right term for what? 1 more year of accuracy? Come on, dude.
I'd much rather save the minute of explaining, especially if ways are about to part and I just want to quickly find out how to stay in touch.

So yeah... "people have to remember"... I doubt that. Or at least I won't act the hero trying to bring education about this important news to the world.
It's Microsoft's job to replace names with sound alternatives, that are easy and sink in well. Not my job. (unfortunately they suck at that traditionally...)
Microsoft can thank themselves for renaming to ridiculous new names etc...
Nobody's got to unless people really get irritated by old names vs new names that might collide, but it's simple to tell apart a messenger network from a web portal.

GS:mac

I understand that in your circle, and many other it's called the MSN messenger, but that is still not the name of the program and service. I don't think anyone here demands people start calling it WLM, messenger og even potatochat. I certainly don't. But in an article about it, I prefer it to be named what it is.

I have had several people ask me where they can find MSN messenger, because they simply can't figure out that it has changed name. When you go to msn.com you see a link to "Messenger", which takes you to a page titled Windows Essentials. Even I think this is very confusing , you clicked on messenger, why does it take you to download Windows Essentials.

Sure, the service is dying, and nobody will care in a year anyway. But it's still called Windows Live Messenger, and you don't have to shorten it to WLM if you don't like how that rolls off your tongue - what other service out there calls their program Messenger? I can think of one that is similar, the Facebook chat application is named Messages iirc, but thats on mobiles.

Flatval said,
But in an article about it, I prefer it to be named what it is.

I have had several people ask me where they can find MSN messenger, because they simply can't figure out that it has changed name. When you go to msn.com you see a link to "Messenger", which takes you to a page titled Windows Essentials. Even I think this is very confusing , you clicked on messenger, why does it take you to download Windows Essentials.

This part qualifies for 100% QFT.

GS:mac

DJGM said,
The entire Messenger client is about to be axed soon anyway, so until then, it's best to just
say "Messenger", rather than continuing to use a name that was dropped 7 years ago.

People have got to remember, MSN is nothing more than a large and varied collection of
commercial content portal sites. It's got absolutely nothing to do with instant messaging
services anymore since December 2005. Even less than that from March this year.

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I completely agree. Its not called MSN. I correct everyone that says "MSN". I make them say messenger and I explain why. Noone gets ****ed at me, they understand and from then on they call it messenger, the correct way to call it

I can't stand Skype on my phone. Every time I sign in it slowly downloads every message I've ever received. It can take 10 minutes before I can even use it sometimes.