Natal to sell for $149, with a new name

Natal will be hitting the store shelves in America for $149, and be bundled with Xbox360 Arcade for $299, according to edge-online.  The source of the information even claims that project Natal will also be renamed, which will be announced next month at E3.

Natal is said to launch on October 26 worldwide, but could be postponed further if the project faces any further delays.  The device appears to be headed for a holiday season release.

The standalone Natal unit is said to retail for $149 in the US, and estimated to retail for £103 / €121 international and £207 / €243 for the Xbox360 Arcade bundle (based on current exchange rates). 

When Natal hits retailers, it will be more expensive than the PlayStation Move, when it was announced earlier this year for $100 with a game.

According to the source, “Microsoft expects to sell millions and millions of Natal units in its first year on the market so you can expect the software launch line-up to target non-traditional gamers.”  Natal is looking to target the non-hardcore gamers with its controller-less camera.  With the release of Natal, gamers can expect a marketplace to contain more games focused towards casual gamers and families.

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A) Does those "millions" of sales include the system sales that there bundled with
B) Unless there some killer apps, $150 is a bit expensive.
C) Withholding judgement if Natal will be cool or not after it's out / it gets some real action.

I don't see why they want to rename it when Project Natal is a very well known name for it now. It's like a brand and it should stick.

People said the same about the Nintendo Revolution when it was renamed the Wii or Kudo when it became Bing. People get used to new names pretty quick.

Seriously, why are people complaining at $150 for this, I think it is pretty reasonably priced seeing what it is capable of and the fact you only need ONE of them for multiple players! I didn't see the £79 price tag of the Wii Fit Balance Board stopping those flying off the shelves ... and that did a WHOLE lot less!

Move is cheaper if you plan to play single player. Add in other remotes or the nunchuck like accessories and it begins to get more expensive quickly. Especially given they seem to have demoed configurations where in some scenarios not only did they have a nun-chuck and the move remote itself but I swore some times they had two of the move motes per a person.

At least MS's $150 is a predictable one off payment.

At $150 I'm going to hold off for a bit and see what games get made for it. That's just too much money to waste on something that would never get used.

Hope the new Xbox bundled with Natal, won't surpass the 300 US$, since they said that they were going to recreate it with "cheaper" and yet better parts, I hope the price doesn't rise up too much.

If they're expecting to sell "millions and millions" priced it at $50 bucks and they'll outsell the Wii HD *cough...I mean Move...or vibrator...cough*

The Natal unit also contains a microphone array and motorola processors to handle the input preprocessing before it's sent to the console. I believe the unit is adequately priced for what it contains as well as how it interacts with the console.

I'll be standing in line to get mine.

dotf said,
The Natal unit also contains a microphone array and motorola processors to handle the input preprocessing before it's sent to the console. I believe the unit is adequately priced for what it contains as well as how it interacts with the console.

I'll be standing in line to get mine.

I don't know dotf, I cant see myself spending $150 on a control system, at least not until I they show how their going to implement this tech into actual games, other then racing games, and some brick breaker game. I just can't envision the practicality of it for most games. how will this work with Halo, Gears, Call of duty, or even sports games like madden....people are gonna be diving into walls and running at into their $2k + TV's.....Monster fail!!!

Maundrel said,

I don't know dotf, I cant see myself spending $150 on a control system, at least not until I they show how their going to implement this tech into actual games, other then racing games, and some brick breaker game. I just can't envision the practicality of it for most games. how will this work with Halo, Gears, Call of duty, or even sports games like madden....people are gonna be diving into walls and running at into their $2k + TV's.....Monster fail!!!


I really doubt it's true. That'd be an insane price for a controller.

dotf said,
The Natal unit also contains a microphone array and motorola processors to handle the input preprocessing before it's sent to the console. I believe the unit is adequately priced for what it contains as well as how it interacts with the console.

I'll be standing in line to get mine.


I heard they removed the processors to keep costs down. Processing will be done by the 360 with around a 10-15% Xenon usage.

yardman said,
i was hoping for it to cost $100.00 or less...but i'l still but it.

BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
$149?
BWAHAHAHAHAHHA*snort*BWAHAHAHAHAHHA

So really, how much will it cost? £40?

Rob2687 said,
Want.

I am not much of a gamer or even a console person. It's mostly the technology itself that has me interested.



I'd like to see how well it really works. It could be amazing, or it could be hella annoying.. ya, i used hella.

Rob2687 said,
Want.

I am not much of a gamer or even a console person. It's mostly the technology itself that has me interested.

That will risk you growing bored of it quickly, after you've experienced the technology.

Ouch, that means it could easily be AUD$200 - AUD$250 here in Australia. No Natal for me, I'm not paying that much for it.

still1 said,
expensive though. move seems to be cheaper.

offcourse. Natal uses 3 cameras and they are recovering the R&D cost. Move is basically Wii mote with 1 to 1. The Tech's been public for 4 years.

Also isnt this all a rumor?

still1 said,
expensive though. move seems to be cheaper.

of cause its cheaper, it has to track a glowing ball....natal tracks not just a whole human body but can track multiple human bodies.... I think a $50 extra price tag is a bargin!

maash said,

offcourse. Natal uses 3 cameras and they are recovering the R&D cost. Move is basically Wii mote with 1 to 1. The Tech's been public for 4 years.

Also isnt this all a rumor?

What R&D costs? Microsoft didn't develop this technology, it was create by an Israeli company called 3DV, who developed it along side with another company called Prime Sense. It was originally called 3DV Natal.

Microsoft purchased 3DV and acquired their patents literally just weeks before E3. Sony spent much more money on R&D and built thier system from the ground up, yet it's still cheaper then Natal. Natal is only more expensive because of the hardware that it uses, R&D has nothing to do with it.

Maundrel said,

What R&D costs? Microsoft didn't develop this technology, it was create by an Israeli company called 3DV, who developed it along side with another company called Prime Sense. It was originally called 3DV Natal.

Microsoft purchased 3DV and acquired their patents literally just weeks before E3. Sony spent much more money on R&D and built thier system from the ground up, yet it's still cheaper then Natal. Natal is only more expensive because of the hardware that it uses, R&D has nothing to do with it.


You're doing a lot of assuming and basing your information on things the press has assumed. They've made similar assumptions before and been way off.

Maundrel said,

What R&D costs? Microsoft didn't develop this technology, it was create by an Israeli company called 3DV, who developed it along side with another company called Prime Sense. It was originally called 3DV Natal.

Microsoft purchased 3DV and acquired their patents literally just weeks before E3. Sony spent much more money on R&D and built thier system from the ground up, yet it's still cheaper then Natal. Natal is only more expensive because of the hardware that it uses, R&D has nothing to do with it.

3DV developed a system to create recognise camera images as 3D. Not to explicitly interpret and track human bodies and movements and recreate them on screen as an avatar. Also, just buying the rights to that technology counts as an R&D cost. They provide the basic framework, and Microsoft are working to turn it into a fully working solution.

potat4o said,
Either one of these or 4 PS Move controllers. Which is cheaper? ...

I may be talking out of ignorance here...But dont you just need one Natal system, and it would track multiple players?

The Gunslinger said,

I may be talking out of ignorance here...But dont you just need one Natal system, and it would track multiple players?

Yes you only need one...that's what he's saying. It would most likely be cheaper to buy 1 Natal system than 4 move controllers