NeoBytes :) Twitter users go nuts over “iPhone 5 $800” rumour

We hear more than our fair share of rumours here at Neowin. Some come from knowledgeable tipsters; others are attributed to unspecified but well-placed sources; but some appear to come from out of absolutely nowhere.

Today, the Twittersphere has been practically foaming at the mouth over one such rumour that seemed to emerge from out of the blue. For several hours, the phrase “iPhone 5 $800” has been trending across the globe. At time of writing, that phrase is the second most popular topic in the United States, while “#800DollarsforAniPhone” is currently at the top of the list. Similar phrases have featured in the top ten trends in numerous other countries, and are currently among the top globally aggregated trends.

Infuriated consumers have taken to Twitter in their millions, to voice their outrage at the suggestion that the next iPhone – which is widely expected to arrive next month – will have such a huge price tag.

@alexisanass said: “iPhone 5 $800 ? Better be a WePhone cause the whole family is gonna have to share !”

@iKeepItTooReal said: “iPhone 5 $800? I Better be able to touch the other persons face in FaceTime!!!”

@JCeballos217 said: “iPhone 5 $800..nahhh I’m fine with Android :)”

But where on earth did this all originate? International Business Times discovered, after much digging, that an article at gamenguide.com – headed “iPhone 5 Rumors and Release Date – Already on Sale in China” – appears to be the origin; that article features a listing from Chinese auction site taobao.com, citing a price of $800-$1050. But that article clearly states that the auction listing is likely to be a scam, adding that “the iPhone will cost a pretty penny, but pigs will fly before it costs that much”.

Digital Spy noted that Reuters had mentioned $800 in conjunction with Apple stock (though didn’t mention iPhone pricing in the same article), and that on PhonesReview.co.uk, a comment was made by a user who gave their prediction for the new iPhone’s price: “Propably [sic] $800-$900 US dollars for 64GB. That’s excluding taxes.”

Perhaps the rumour originated from one of these examples, or perhaps it came from somewhere else entirely. One thing’s clear though – there’s a lot of really angry people out there going absolutely, 100%, super-nutty over a nugget of information that they’ve taken at face value from retweets, without even trying to verify or substantiate it with more details.

The internet is a craaaaaaazy place.

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Here I was thinking NZD and I thought everyone was stoked that it is cheaper now (and thinking bloody hell, half a tonne of teens wandering around with iPhones thinking they are cool)

Turns out the conversion puts 800 US at the current retail price in NZ of $1000+ and IF the phone was 800 NZ at the current US price of 700 US.


Whatajoke!!!

Thewindows8user said,
IPhone 4s base price sells for INR 44,800 (approx. $850) in India and goes up to around $1200 carrier unlocked sim free. Nothing new....

What 'Thewindows8user' said - do people not know the real and current underlying cost of an iPhone?

I wonder why no one ever brings up this point. The iphone 4s 32gb is $750 on Apples website unlocked. The ipod touch 32gb is $300. These two devices are EXACTLY the same except for the casing being a little different and the iphone having a Cell radio in it. Can anyone really expect that chip is worth $450. This is obviously a markup forced by the carriers to make their 'on-contract' pricing appealing.

greensabath said,
I wonder why no one ever brings up this point. The iphone 4s 32gb is $750 on Apples website unlocked. The ipod touch 32gb is $300. These two devices are EXACTLY the same except for the casing being a little different and the iphone having a Cell radio in it. Can anyone really expect that chip is worth $450. This is obviously a markup forced by the carriers to make their 'on-contract' pricing appealing.

There's actually more technical difference than that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_iOS_devices

greensabath said,
I wonder why no one ever brings up this point. The iphone 4s 32gb is $750 on Apples website unlocked. The ipod touch 32gb is $300. These two devices are EXACTLY the same except for the casing being a little different and the iphone having a Cell radio in it. Can anyone really expect that chip is worth $450. This is obviously a markup forced by the carriers to make their 'on-contract' pricing appealing.

Yeah apart from the iPhone being twice as thick

So annoying that people are getting all outraged and bent out of shape over a stupid rumor. Like Apple would sell the iPhone for $800. I mean come-on. It will be your normal pricing with a contract with your carrier that it has always been. I get so irritated at people for judging something without knowing what they are talking about.

it can't not be truth cuz Apple say We don't care about the money, just great products. so let see the price when it come out if this is Truth what apple say.

McKay said,
Why would they call the 6th iPhone "iPhone 5"?

Why would they call the 5th iPhone 4S? See what I just did there?

Lucas said,

Why would they call the 5th iPhone 4S? See what I just did there?

Indeed I did, you made a stupid comment without thinking first. All iPhones have had a reason for their name. Its the 4S because its the iPhone 4 with a speed bump. Which was called the iPhone 4 because it was the 4th iPhone, before that it was the 3GS because it was a 3G with a speed bump. The 3G was named so because it had a 3G chip. So I'll ask again, why would they call the 6th iPhone"iPhone 5"?

McKay said,

Indeed I did, you made a stupid comment without thinking first. All iPhones have had a reason for their name. Its the 4S because its the iPhone 4 with a speed bump. Which was called the iPhone 4 because it was the 4th iPhone, before that it was the 3GS because it was a 3G with a speed bump. The 3G was named so because it had a 3G chip. So I'll ask again, why would they call the 6th iPhone"iPhone 5"?

Then on that basis, surely it IS the 5th generation, not the 6th?

Or at the very least, 5 comes before 6.

wotsit said,

Then on that basis, surely it IS the 5th generation, not the 6th?

Or at the very least, 5 comes before 6.

I didn't mention the first iPhone, which was just called iPhone

IPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPhone 4S.

McKay said,

I didn't mention the first iPhone, which was just called iPhone

IPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPhone 4S.

By your logic the iPhones should be all named iPhone, iPhone 2, iPhone 3, iPhone 4, iPhone 5 and the iPhone 6, but it doesn't really work like that, unfortunately. Just because it's the 6th generation doesn't make it the iPhone 6 in nomenclature. I also don't understand where I made myself look stupid, but okey.

Something Apple is known for is consistency when it comes to price points on their products. They rarely make significant changes to this. The new iPhone will likely have the same price point as the old one did when it came out. They don't attempt to fix something that isn't broken. Apple has more resource(read money) than most companies and will have the same ability to sell its phones at the same price for the foreseeable future.

On a side note, the longer this "andriod/ios/windows" war goes on, the more ridiculous the rumors are becoming from what I am seeing. It's just a phone. It makes phone calls, plays games, goes on the internet. Stop centering your life around it.

I paid about 800 CHF for my S3, which ends up being just over 800 USD. The thought that the iPhone may be 800 USD does not surprise me.

Typical <insert Cell phone maker> zealots who parrot anything/everything they read on the internet. 'Cause it's the gospel truth yo.

To give my opinion:
1. This rumour had no valid source
2. A lot of these tweeters were from the USA who primarily use contracts, so I think they thought the phone would have a one-up cost of $800 compared to $200 which I think the iPhone 4S goes for. Considering converting $800 into GBP estimates at around £515, add on VAT and it'll only hit a max of about £600 which isn't too big of an increase from the iPhone 4S outright in the UK.
3. It still is unlikely for a big increase, Apple seem to have a pattern of keeping the same price or getting cheaper. Didn't the 4 and 4S keep the price? Plus I recall the New iPad being the exact same price as the iPad 2, and I think the iPad 2 was the same price (or even cheaper) than the new iPad. It's rare for Apple to get more expensive.
4. I think most people knew it was fake. I noticed that on the trend, the majority of the tweets were not in, so to say, the best English. Such as an example - "The iPhone 5 $800??? That better come w hella free cases, screen protectors, gas gift cards & a yr supply of free snacks". So I just think it's mistranslation as said in the article.

Possession said,

2. A lot of these tweeters were from the USA who primarily use contracts, so I think they thought the phone would have a one-up cost of $800 compared to $200 which I think the iPhone 4S goes for. Considering converting $800 into GBP estimates at around £515, add on VAT and it'll only hit a max of about £600 which isn't too big of an increase from the iPhone 4S outright in the UK.

Except that they usually do this exchange when pricing things in the UK: $800 -> £800 (VAT included)

Doesn't the current 64GB one cost around $800 anyway?
The only reason people are going nuts about it is because they don't realise the price they paid for their phone (tied into a 2 year contract) is less than what it actually sells for normally.

Cyborg_X said,
Isn't it nearly that outright anyway?

Yep. iPhone 4s ranges from 649 CAD to 849 CAD on Telus (outright)

Obviously people aren't used to seeing the actual cost of smartphones before carrier subsidies. I would be surprised if the iPhone 5 was less than $700 outright.

Scorpus said,
Obviously people aren't used to seeing the actual cost of smartphones before carrier subsidies. I would be surprised if the iPhone 5 was less than $700 outright.

£723.99 for a SIM free iPhone 4S 64GB on play.com: converts to $1,123!

jon.01 said,
Regardless, smartphone prices are way too high. $700 for a phone......I don't care how powerful it is, I could build a PC for that price.
Because it *is* a PC?

jon.01 said,
Regardless, smartphone prices are way too high. $700 for a phone......I don't care how powerful it is, I could build a PC for that price.

OEMs sell their hardware for what they can get, PCs are better value for the consumer because the profit margins on each one sold are wather thin and their desperate not to allow this to happen to phone and tablets xD

jon.01 said,
Regardless, smartphone prices are way too high. $700 for a phone......I don't care how powerful it is, I could build a PC for that price.

Yes but will that pc fit in the palm of your hand? think mobility.

3dfxman said,

Yes but will that pc fit in the palm of your hand? think mobility.


Raspberry pi + remote server processing everything = very small but very fast device

Kirkburn said,
Because it *is* a PC?

Modern phones are as powerful as obsolete PCs. He meant modern PCs, because obsolete PCs would be a lot cheaper by this point since they became, well, obsolete...

By your own definition of 'obsolete', that is. Obviously they're not as powerful as full sized PCs. That doesn't make them not PCs.

Just like you can buy cheap desktops, you can buy cheap smartphones. It was a completely stupid comment to complain about the price of a top-end smartphone.