New build of Windows 8.1 update 1 screenshots leak, still boots to desktop


We know that Windows 8.1 update 1 will arrive this spring and the leaks surrounding this update have been quite frequent. With another new build out in the wild, it’s only a matter of time before the build is leaked to the general public.

In the latest screenshots, not much is new but does show a more rapid release of update 1 builds being released for testing.

A couple of points to consider, one being that this build still boots directly to the desktop. Also, the enterprise mode that was spotted in the last build is still around and the rumor du jour is that this mode will be coming to the Windows 7 version of IE11 too.

Booting to desktop still remains an interesting change as it shifts the attention away from the modern environment. While it could and will likely change before hitting RTM, Microsoft has been backpedaling with Windows 8.1 and update 1 to make the platform more keyboard and mouse friendly.

One last bit to chew on is that the access bar found at the top of the modern apps might be transparent. While the current screenshots show a black bar, it is believed that the shipping version could be transparent and may have a hover effect to display the bar. Still digging around for clarity on this as the translations are not exactly clear other than that the bar, as shown in the leaked builds, could change before the update is released.

The source states that the build should leak in the near future but don’t hold your breath as these leaks can take some time to develop.

Source: Wzor | PC Portal

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What we need now is another brain-dead comment about the calculator that has been there since Windows 8 was released.

Come on monkeys: dance.

What's preposterous is how agitated people are getting over this, as if they're being faced at gunpoint to use the Metro calc. Some people may have genuine concerns about the new UI, but unfortunately (even for them) they're drowned out by morons whining about inconsequential stuff.

Romero said,
What's preposterous is how agitated people are getting over this, as if they're being faced at gunpoint to use the Metro calc. Some people may have genuine concerns about the new UI, but unfortunately (even for them) they're drowned out by morons whining about inconsequential stuff.

The fact is that people are not complaining about the calculator itself; it is used as an example to prove that the "Full screen" paradigm has its shortcomings, and personally I find that even a "sliced" calculator takes more space than needed.

Fritzly said,
personally I find that even a "sliced" calculator takes more space than needed.
Many are complaining about the calc itself, its looks and so on. Anyway, if the shortcoming is simply that not everything looks good running full-screen, fine then don't use the Metro calc in particular. Doesn't mean every Metro app is equally wasting space. And since when have third-party Desktop apps disappeared (except from Windows RT)? There are probably a million free and paid calc apps available, but one Metro calc and suddenly people lose it? Till now what Metro apps do you see that are simply indispensable and don't have a (better) Desktop counterpart? Why can't people let those who want to use the Metro apps be and use what they want instead?

Honestly I sometimes think the best course of action for Microsoft might be to just provide a "Metro off" option. That ought to shut those who blindly and without reason hate Metro up and the rest of us can move on with our lives thinking about how to improve and make better use of it.

P.S. I obviously meant "forced at gunpoint" in my original comment above.

My God, it looks terrible. Does one really need a huge ass calculator on their screen? This whole OS continues its downward spiral.

I need a touch friendly calculator for my tablet and It looks beautiful on it. You can still use the desktop calculator if you like.

My God, it looks terrible. Does one really need a huge ass calculator on their screen? This whole OS continues its downward spiral.

Just click the Desktop tile. If we had a comment for every Windows program that looked bad in someone's opinion...we'd need a lot more servers.

wingliston said,
I need a touch friendly calculator for my tablet and It looks beautiful on it. You can still use the desktop calculator if you like.

I see no need for a giant calculator to cover the entire screen. This is Windows. You're supposed to have a desktop with multiple viewable windowed applications, not a single gargantuan application that's not even written with keyboard/mouse users in mind. I should never have to see that on a desktop operating system. Naturally, I'd have some other application that requires me to perform calculations up and running. How the hell am I supposed to function conveniently when my calculator takes up my whole damn screen? I mean, really. No thought has been out into this OS at all.

zhangm said,

Just click the Desktop tile. If we had a comment for every Windows program that looked bad in someone's opinion...we'd need a lot more servers.

I shouldn't have to click a huge tile with a little mouse pointer to get to a desktop on a desktop computer, dude. Come on. Stop defending them.

srprimeaux said,

I shouldn't have to click a huge tile with a little mouse pointer to get to a desktop on a desktop computer, dude. Come on. Stop defending them.

Win-R>calc>Enter

I don't think I've ever launched the desktop calculator from the start menu.

srprimeaux said,

I see no need for a giant calculator to cover the entire screen. This is Windows. You're supposed to have a desktop with multiple viewable windowed applications, not a single gargantuan application that's not even written with keyboard/mouse users in mind. I should never have to see that on a desktop operating system. Naturally, I'd have some other application that requires me to perform calculations up and running. How the hell am I supposed to function conveniently when my calculator takes up my whole damn screen? I mean, really. No thought has been out into this OS at all.


It looks like you never used Windows 8 before or you have a intellectual disability.

1. You can snap any metro app three different sizes depending on the resolution size.

2. You can mouse, keyboard, touch to input data into the metro calculator.

3. You dont have to use the metro calculator, there's millions of calculator programs written for Windows. Original Microsoft calculator still there. You make it sound like the desktop side is gone...

4. Metro apps are nice to have when connected to a projector in a class room setting.

At least Juile Larson Green and Jensen Harris are out of Windows since this update would never happen under their watch. This update is remarkable for how much improvements they made for mouse users in a few months, instead of 1 year like Win8.1 only returning the start button and giving the choice to boot to desktop.

Edited by Nick H., Feb 7 2014, 11:06am :

As a non touch user I use both the start screen and the desktop as well, I'd prefer it to boot to desktop though since I use that more, you would think that they would allow non touch users to disable metro completely, I mean metro IE 11 is terrible as well as most other metro apps if you use a mouse and keyboard

I don't have any problem with this being enabled by default. If MS feels that they no longer need to lead with the Metro UI to introduce it to users, then this seems like a logical step.

If its smart enough to change that behavior depending on the hardware detected, that's even better.

I have found uses for the Start Screen over time though. Having at-a-glance apps like weather, calendar, email, etc have actually been nice. Plus there are some nice media apps that I enjoy using full screen, making it a replacement for Media Center.

That doesn't mean I have to have the pc boot to the Start Screen. In fact, I enabled that and also enabled the option that sends you back to the desktop when you close a Metro app. That setting is great. Its something so simple, but using it just feels more natural since I usually don't need to jump into another Metro app when I'm closing one. So right now I'm pretty comfortable with it.

i gussing this is just a Pre-alpha
Pre-alpha refers to all activities performed during the software project before testing. These activities can include requirements analysis, software design, software development, and unit testing. In typical open source development, there are several types of pre-alpha versions. Milestone versions include specific sets of functions and are released as soon as the functionality is complete.

What is with this "modern environment" nomenclature? Call it what it is--touch-centric. It is hardly "modern," unless it is a thinly-veiled attempt to relabel "Metro." It is a good sign that MS is finally realizing (and way too long overdue), that content creation in a business environment of laptops and desktops is a much larger portion of their installed base than touch-centric tablets. Yes, tablet do have their place, just not nearly as omnipresent as MS had incorrectly estimated with its release of Windows-8.

TsarNikky said,
It is hardly "modern," unless it is a thinly-veiled attempt to relabel "Metro."
"thinly veiled"? What a joke! Did you miss the whole Metro AG episode that lead to this official rename?

Just to clarify, the bootup behavior is dictated by the device type, anything that is touch capable will get the start screen on boot, whereas non-touch devices will shoot straight to the desktop because the desktop makes more sense on those devices.

And yes, the leaked build does not boot to the desktop by default, that was added after the leaked build.

As long as it can be changed and OEMs who make tablets can opt out of this 90's default, I'm cool with it and ready to move on to more important things like, windows store apps window management.

mjedi7 said,
Ugliest calculator evaaar!
Agree. However, some folks seem to think that an App taking up the whole screen makes you more productive.......and cool.

JHBrown said,
Agree. However, some folks seem to think that an App taking up the whole screen makes you more productive.......and cool.

You know that's the reason the old was left in right? They aren't that daft...

JHBrown said,
Agree. However, some folks seem to think that an App taking up the whole screen makes you more productive.......and cool.

You do realize apps don't have to sit full screen don't you? I have used a calculate app snapped to the side before

I know you guys hate apps, especially apps that can go full screen, but this kind of stuff is silly.

You know you can snap multiple windows. You could for example keep the desktop running while you use modern apps, it behaves almost like you have seperate monitors so the bigger and wider the screen you have, the better!

trooper11 said,

You do realize apps don't have to sit full screen don't you? I have used a calculate app snapped to the side before

I know you guys hate apps, especially apps that can go full screen, but this kind of stuff is silly.

I am just looking for apps that can be windowed; the ability to slice them is useful but not enough. Hating apps....? Not really, all these debated issues are not worth such a intense and engaging feeling, not for me at least.

Fritzly said,

I am just looking for apps that can be windowed; the ability to slice them is useful but not enough. Hating apps....? Not really, all these debated issues are not worth such a intense and engaging feeling, not for me at least.

The way people post around here gives me a different impression. The constant generalizations and attacking the other guy's preferences.

I'm not sold on metro apps in a windows though. I'm just not sure why you would choose to use a windowed metro app over a desktop app. There are plenty of media apps for the desktop, etc.

Sure, add the option if you must, but I seriously question how that helps anything.

mjedi7 said,
Ugliest calculator evaaar!

I argree, why you would need a full screen calculator is beyond me, and defies logic.

Anarkii said,

I argree, why you would need a full screen calculator is beyond me, and defies logic.

Yeah, why would someone choose to not snap a calculator app? It defies logic.

The reason, at least for MS, is simple: profits. When you buy a Metro app , therefore on the Store, MS get a percentage of the sale. The more Metro apps get accepted, and bought, the better.

I argree, why you would need a full screen calculator is beyond me, and defies logic.

Then use the old one on the desktop.

xWhiplash said,
I agree. Full screen music app and photo app are pointless too.

On a 27" monitor that is....

I have a large monitor too and also often connect to an even larger TV. A full-screen music app perhaps isn't as useful (unless one is watching a vis plugin), but why not a full-screen photos app? It's not an image editor after all. Even on my desktop my image viewer always launches full-screen. Why wouldn't I want to view my gorgeous high-res images full-screen in all their glory without distracting window chrome? If you want you can use a non full-screen non-Metro viewer (that's called choice), but don't advocate messing up the current one for those of us who like it.

Well because most of the pictures are not 2560x1440 resolution, so it is either stretched well beyond its original size, or there is too much empty space around the image.

xWhiplash said,
Well because most of my pictures are not 2560x1440 resolution
Fixed. My pictures look fine even on my big-a** TV.

trooper11 said,

You do realize apps don't have to sit full screen don't you? I have used a calculate app snapped to the side before

I know you guys hate apps, especially apps that can go full screen, but this kind of stuff is silly.

Oh so takes only 1/2 my screen then? So much better. :roll:

knighthawk said,

Oh so takes only 1/2 my screen then? So much better. :roll:

Um no. Obviously you have not tried it, so you are not aware of how snapping works, especially in 8.1 Its dynamic.

I have happily used snapped apps that way. Of course, the app developer has to take advantage of the options for it to work correctly.

full screen calculator??

weird decision by Microsoft to be honest... not sure if this full screen calculator will improve our productivity compared to windows based calculator..

I personally will change it back to booting to start screen, as it prefer that on my Desktop PC (Non touch) ever since I upgraded to WIndows 8.0 on October 26th 2012.

Upgraded to 8.1 First day it came on on the 17th...Use the following metro apps daily--Mail app (still gotta get my new isp email working with it yet) Xbox music, video, Games, Internet Explorer Modern if something I don't wanna sign into Desktop, Bing Weather App, Scan Modern App. Desktop Applications are as follows, Internet Explorer, WIndows Media Player for dvd watching at times, Firestorm Secondlife app, and other Desktop games.

So to me Start screen is fine, and Desktop mode is fine.

Antivirus use third party Avast antivirus currently, but I hope under new Microsoft CEO Leadership, WIndows Defender Detection rate goes up, and protection score as well .

Great news. Microsoft is a few steps closer to me recommending Windows 8. Professionally, that's over 200,000 people. Personally, a few hundred. Make it happen Microsoft!

Edit: I'm still not sure why they don't make Metro an option that can be checked on or off. This would please everyone. Someone like me can stay far away from the Metro/Microsoft Store and those who love it would be happy.

Edited by JHBrown, Feb 6 2014, 11:15pm :

Excellent idea that I have espoused for quite a while. Why didn't the wizards at MS realize that when Windows-8 was originally released??

JHBrown said,
Great news. Microsoft is a few steps closer to me recommending Windows 8. Professionally, that's over 200,000 people. Personally, a few hundred. Make it happen Microsoft!

Edit: I'm still not sure why they don't make Metro an option that can be checked on or off. This would please everyone. Someone like me can stay far away from the Metro/Microsoft Store and those who love it would be happy.

Wow, your going to sell 200,000+ Win 8 pcs once they make Metro completely optional? Can't wait to see the market share numbers jump. You have quite the reach in the industry.

Honestly though, What is the major hold out for you? You can boot straight to the desktop now, you can disable the hot corners, you can already completely avoid the store section. You have the start menu-like ui that sits in the lower left corner with a right click.

My guess is that you want a win 7 start menu and the option to turn off the charms bar. I can't think of anything else they really need to do to please you. Then boom!, over 200k in sales. Not bad I would say.


trooper11 said,

Wow, your going to sell 200,000+ Win 8 pcs once they make Metro completely optional? Can't wait to see the market share numbers jump. You have quite the reach in the industry.

Honestly though, What is the major hold out for you? You can boot straight to the desktop now, you can disable the hot corners, you can already completely avoid the store section. You have the start menu-like ui that sits in the lower left corner with a right click.

My guess is that you want a win 7 start menu and the option to turn off the charms bar. I can't think of anything else they really need to do to please you. Then boom!, over 200k in sales. Not bad I would say.


These are contractors that work with us and yes the major problem is the start menu and Modern UI. Once this is implemented, I can only recommend that they proceed with Windows 8. Also, we do have quite the reach. One of the biggest employers in the world. The U.S. Government and military.

JHBrown said,
These are contractors that work with us and yes the major problem is the start menu and Modern UI. Once this is implemented, I can only recommend that they proceed with Windows 8. Also, we do have quite the reach. One of the biggest employers in the world. The U.S. Government and military.

So would you be ok if the charms bar was still around as long as the Win 7 start menu returned and allowed you to avoid Metro?

trooper11 said,

So would you be ok if the charms bar was still around as long as the Win 7 start menu returned and allowed you to avoid Metro?

Many users would like that idea. For me personally the charms bar is a nuisance. I don't like how it shows up when my mouse barely touches the edge of my screen. Can we get a charms keyboard shortcut? Trooper don't get me wrong, I love the under the hood improvements of Windows 8. I just wish users were given a choice for a touchscreen device vs the traditional desktop.

JHBrown said,
Many users would like that idea. For me personally the charms bar is a nuisance. I don't like how it shows up when my mouse barely touches the edge of my screen. Can we get a charms keyboard shortcut? Trooper don't get me wrong, I love the under the hood improvements of Windows 8. I just wish users were given a choice for a touchscreen device vs the traditional desktop.

There are keyboard shortcuts that work with the charms bar. What do you mean specifically?

So MS just needs to offer the option to disable the charms bar while on the desktop like it does for the hot corners function. That with the return of the Win 7 start menu should end the major complaints. That really does illustrate how little is actually wrong with 8. A couple UI options and its good.

trooper11 said,

There are keyboard shortcuts that work with the charms bar. What do you mean specifically?

So MS just needs to offer the option to disable the charms bar while on the desktop like it does for the hot corners function. That with the return of the Win 7 start menu should end the major complaints. That really does illustrate how little is actually wrong with 8. A couple UI options and its good.

You are correct. If Microsoft would listen, the core of Windows 8 is good. Options to disable certain unneeded functions, tweaking the UI, enable the start menu, and millions would rejoice. Choice is key here. A few tick marks to suit your personal Windows experience.

JHBrown said,
You are correct. If Microsoft would listen, the core of Windows 8 is good. Options to disable certain unneeded functions, tweaking the UI, enable the start menu, and millions would rejoice. Choice is key here. A few tick marks to suit your personal Windows experience.

Windows has always been about tailoring it to fit your needs. This wouldn't be new for MS. It makes you wonder if they weren't planning to do this type of evolution anyway. Maybe the timeframe was accelerated due to consumer feedback.

If they manage it right, MS can easily make it work.

trooper11 said,

Windows has always been about tailoring it to fit your needs. This wouldn't be new for MS. It makes you wonder if they weren't planning to do this type of evolution anyway. Maybe the timeframe was accelerated due to consumer feedback.

If they manage it right, MS can easily make it work.

Agree

JHBrown said,
These are contractors that work with us and yes the major problem is the start menu and Modern UI.
Windows 8 and Modern isn't the problem, the problem is you. If any of what you claim is true, then you are the problem and you are the only reason those people are not upgrading. Now a healthy dose of confidence is good and well, but the way you set it up, you're the problem.

Atlantico said,
Windows 8 and Modern isn't the problem, the problem is you. If any of what you claim is true, then you are the problem and you are the only reason those people are not upgrading. Now a healthy dose of confidence is good and well, but the way you set it up, you're the problem.
Wrong. We are far from the only ones who deal with our contractors. They've been given advice from other sources also. I guess you didn't read that these are government contractors. So try again Atlantico!

JHBrown said,
Wrong. We are far from the only ones who deal with our contractors. They've been given advice from other sources also. I guess you didn't read that these are government contractors. So try again Atlantico!

Oh, ok then it doesn't matter one iota whether MS decides to cave to your personal pet peeves, because you don't speak for anyone who makes the decision on whether to upgrade or not.

Atlantico said,

Oh, ok then it doesn't matter one iota whether MS decides to cave to your personal pet peeves, because you don't speak for anyone who makes the decision on whether to upgrade or not.

Read the news Atlantico. There are millions of people who would not recommend Windows 8. My pet peeves coincide with the same pet peeves others have with Windows 8. I'm not just pulling this stuff out of a magical hat. Look around you Atlantico, the dislike for Windows 8 is the majority.

JHBrown said,
Read the news Atlantico. There are millions of people who would not recommend Windows 8. My pet peeves coincide with the same pet peeves others have with Windows 8. I'm not just pulling this stuff out of a magical hat. Look around you Atlantico, the dislike for Windows 8 is the majority.

Yeah I'm sure a lot of people are just frothing at the mouth when they think of Windows 8, like every single time something new appears that changes the status quo. The truth is, even if you are correct, people will get used to Windows 8 and already are. In the end it doesn't matter what your pet peeves are, you'll fall in line because we are talking about a tool that works.

Anyway, funny you should be espousing that the government is likely to upgrade to Windows 8 based on the advice of anyone, since their favorite OS is probably XP or Vista. Windows 2000 in some cases.

Even if everyone was singing kumbaya and praising Windows 8 universally, the government wouldn't upgrade until next decade.

Atlantico said,
Even if everyone was singing kumbaya and praising Windows 8 universally, the government wouldn't upgrade until next decade.
I have to agree with this, and not just the government too. I work with large organizations that have finally completed the move from XP to Win7. No way they'll even consider another upgrade so soon. I doubt even with these changes Win8 usage is going to jump suddenly. That's just the way upgrade cycles go and will most likely contribute to Win9 or Win10's tremendous popularity, irrespective of whether those versions are truly something great.

warwagon said,
The only reason Microsoft would change the way things work by default is if the dissatisfied out weighs the satisfied.

So that means if the final version does boot to the start screen by default again you'll admit that the majority has no problem with that and the ones complaining are in the minority?

dr_crabman said,

So that means if the final version does boot to the start screen by default again you'll admit that the majority has no problem with that and the ones complaining are in the minority?

The Minority like it. Everyone else hates it and wants it to boot to the desktop by default. Because honestly how many average users who hate metro even know you can tell it to boot to the desktop.

The biggest issue i'm having with customers ATM doing phone support is everyone is calling the home screen "The desktop"

warwagon said,

The Minority like it. Everyone else hates it and wants it to boot to the desktop by default. Because honestly how many average users who hate metro even know you can tell it to boot to the desktop.

The biggest issue i'm having with customers ATM doing phone support is everyone is calling the home screen "The desktop"

It's the new desktop.

Dot Matrix said,

It's the new desktop.


It's only the new desktop for people who use their PC as a giant phone. Oh wait...

Seriously though everyone I talk to hates the start screen and the first thing they ask me is how to get rid of it so they can use "real windows".

Chris123NT said,

It's only the new desktop for people who use their PC as a giant phone. Oh wait...

Seriously though everyone I talk to hates the start screen and the first thing they ask me is how to get rid of it so they can use "real windows".

Really? Somehow, I don't believe that. Hell, my own sys admin likes Windows 8, and has no issues with it.

Dot Matrix said,

It's the new desktop.

Then if the start screen is the new desktop then what do you call the old desktop? or do you just call them both desktops, so when a customer says "Desktop" you have to try to figure out which one they mean.

Dot Matrix said,
Really? Somehow, I don't believe that. Hell, my own sys admin likes Windows 8, and has no issues with it.

And I can name two friends of mine that are network administrators that dislike Windows 8. Not sure what we're doing here other than arguing with anecdotal evidence though.

dead.cell said,

And I can name two friends of mine that are network administrators that dislike Windows 8. Not sure what we're doing here other than arguing with anecdotal evidence though.
I can add about 20 admins to that. We see it every week.

dead.cell said,

And I can name two friends of mine that are network administrators that dislike Windows 8. Not sure what we're doing here other than arguing with anecdotal evidence though.


That's all you guys do here in the comment sections for Windows 8 stuff.

Most of the comments here are just people taking their personal opinion and claiming it as the majority opinion.

Its like a contest or something, got to make sure your side wins and is the 'popular' side.

trooper11 said,
That's all you guys do here in the comment sections for Windows 8 stuff.

Most of the comments here are just people taking their personal opinion and claiming it as the majority opinion.

Its like a contest or something, got to make sure your side wins and is the 'popular' side.


I'm doing it for lulz. It's stupid, I agree with you.

warwagon said,
The only reason Microsoft would change the way things work by default is if the dissatisfied out weighs the satisfied.

Unless you've polled everyone this is total hyperbole.

Dot Matrix said,

Really? Somehow, I don't believe that. Hell, my own sys admin likes Windows 8, and has no issues with it.

Really? Everyone I work with hates windows 8, and when forced to use it request the old start menu put back, and to make it start on the desktop.

firey said,

Really? Everyone I work with hates windows 8, and when forced to use it request the old start menu put back, and to make it start on the desktop.

Don't fall into the trap of responding.

You and everyone you know hates Win 8. He and everyone he knows likes it. Guess what, neither statement means much.

trooper11 said,
You and everyone you know hates Win 8. He and everyone he knows likes it.
Confirmation bias, 'nuff said.

Whats interesting to me seen on those pictures is the ability link to and open metro apps from desktop. I love windows 8 and 8.1 and have been using it since it came out. But on my surface pro 2 i love seeing metro and on my "desktop" computer i much prefer my DESKTOP. I cant see how anyone on desktop computer thats any kind of gamer would want to be in metro most the time unless your just use it to check the weather. 99% of what i use does not load as a metro app so its inconvenient to be there.

You people still really don't get it, do you? The Start Screen IS the app launcher, and you can launch any application from it (Modern or Desktop)

When you launch and application or app it disappears, just like the start menu used to.

Until there is a new menu in Windows 9 or maybe in a update 2 later this year they won't have it default to a different section of the OS for desktops and tablets/touch capable devices, they'd want to keep it a constant experience for everyone.

What they could do is make the current boot to desktop option easier to find instead of having it hidden in the taskbar properties.

Later on in 9 if/when they remove the desktop on tablets fully and have a new menu for desktops only then it doesn't matter.

George P said,
Until there is a new menu in Windows 9 or maybe in a update 2 later this year they won't have it default to a different section of the OS for desktops and tablets/touch capable devices, they'd want to keep it a constant experience for everyone.

What they could do is make the current boot to desktop option easier to find instead of having it hidden in the taskbar properties.

Later on in 9 if/when they remove the desktop on tablets fully and have a new menu for desktops only then it doesn't matter.


I really hope that MS will not remove the desktop, even from Tablet, until Metro apps will be able to be as useful and having the same functionalities the desktop ones have.
Said that my, humble, guess is that by the time W9 will be available Metro will look quite different from the actual iteration.

Fritzly said,

I really hope that MS will not remove the desktop, even from Tablet, until Metro apps will be able to be as useful and having the same functionalities the desktop ones have.
Said that my, humble, guess is that by the time W9 will be available Metro will look quite different from the actual iteration.

I agree that the apps need to become more feature rich but I don't think it's due to any limits as far as the API or the framework goes. I expect it will change more as far as the UI goes but the rest will be up to developers to take advantage of.

George P said,

I agree that the apps need to become more feature rich but I don't think it's due to any limits as far as the API or the framework goes. I expect it will change more as far as the UI goes but the rest will be up to developers to take advantage of.

Well, I am really curious to see how Outlook will be ported to Metro; I like the Modern Metro OneNote and I am a big fan of the radial menus concept but it is not a full replacement for the desktop version.

Fritzly said,

Well, I am really curious to see how Outlook will be ported to Metro; I like the Modern Metro OneNote and I am a big fan of the radial menus concept but it is not a full replacement for the desktop version.

I agree, it'll depend on how feature rich the metro version of the Office apps will be as they'll be a good indication of where winrt is at this point.

About the OneNote app though, normally the app isn't free, the desktop version that is, while the metro version is. From that point I think it's limited so that they can still get you to buy the full app if you need it. So far for my needs the free metro version has enough and isn't lacking for what I need.

So we'll see if they charge for the newer versions or not, that will be a indication of the features in my opinion.

And update the dated desktop icons.

And update the old Win 7 installation/upgrade menu's.

And make the desktop context menu's match the metro ones.

And make the music app good.

And get rid of the random Windows 98 scroll bar in IE11 when you open a new tab.

NoClipMode said,
And update the dated desktop icons.

And update the old Win 7 installation/upgrade menu's.

And make the desktop context menu's match the metro ones.

And make the music app good.

And get rid of the random Windows 98 scroll bar in IE11 when you open a new tab.


Never noticed the Windows 9x scroll bar before you mentioned it. Wonder why it only appears on the new tab page?

NoClipMode said,
And update the dated desktop icons.

And update the old Win 7 installation/upgrade menu's.

And make the desktop context menu's match the metro ones.

And make the music app good.

And get rid of the random Windows 98 scroll bar in IE11 when you open a new tab.

Above all don't forget the tooltips for the close/minimize/maximize buttons! Those are still Windows 95!!!!

If the previous rumor of it being delayed is true, then maybe this won't be the default behaviour come final release time?

You can't call something "delayed" when a rumor comes out that says the prior rumor about April was wrong and it's actually March (which many people dispute), then another rumor comes and says no wait it's April.

What if, they have it set to boot to desktop, beacause....

*moment of silence for dramatic tension!*

... they're changing stuff primarily on the desktop and they wanted to see if it worked?

Just a thought... just a thought...

Yeah, I don't think it is worth concluding very much or even anything at all at something that's so obviously still a work in progress. You make a good observation.

What do you mean "still?" Everyone has been saying that the leaked build does *not* boot to desktop by default (despite what Wzor said).

Also, improving things is not "backpedaling."

Brandon Live said,
What do you mean "still?" Everyone has been saying that the leaked build does *not* boot to desktop by default (despite what Wzor said).

Also, improving things is not "backpedaling."

I guess that the article refers to the previously leaked pictures which were of a build newer of the leaked one.
Again, who cares where the OS will boot the first time as long as there is the option to change the default environment as the user likes.

Except it's only improving when they are actually making it better. Changing the defaults to please a vocal group of users is backpeddling plain and simple* (not to mention you will only anger a previously happy group). I got no problem with there being a option for it, I just don't think it's right they change the default to please a bunch of whiners (people will whine anyway, because while the original whiners might be now content. The previously content people will have cause for complain! you cannot win). Same goes for the start menu. I got no problem with MS added it back in as a legacy option for users not comfortable with the start screen.

All that said, regardless of what actually happens with this. As long as I have an option to make it boot to the start screen (like it does now) I'm happy.

* = There are exceptions to that of course. For example, changing the default for the WinXP firewall to ON (from its previous default of OFF) was a good thing! so within reason it can be good thing. I just feel in this case it is not.

Why people expressing their opinions, regardless of what they are, have to be categorized as whiners is beyond my understanding. What is wrong with subjective thinking nowadays?

Xerxes said,
Except it's only improving when they are actually making it better. Changing the defaults to please a vocal group of users is backpeddling plain and simple* (not to mention you will only anger a previously happy group). I got no problem with there being a option for it, I just don't think it's right they change the default to please a bunch of whiners (people will whine anyway, because while the original whiners might be now content. The previously content people will have cause for complain! you cannot win). Same goes for the start menu. I got no problem with MS added it back in as a legacy option for users not comfortable with the start screen.

All that said, regardless of what actually happens with this. As long as I have an option to make it boot to the start screen (like it does now) I'm happy.

They aren't going to change the default for everyone. They might change it for certain classes of machine (details TBD). For example, desktop PCs.

Same, when I first log in I want to get busy doing something, not stop and admire the wallpaper. Even have my 7 desktops showing the menu when first logged in, first thing I do anyway so may as well automate it.

DConnell said,
You maybe. I'd rather be greeted with a selection of programs to run.

So you would want MS to update Windows 7 with the start menu open by default and you HAVE to select something or close it to continue? Okay...

DConnell said,
You maybe. I'd rather be greeted with a selection of programs to run.

In the days before Metro, these were called Icons/widgets that sit on your desktop

Some users turn their PC on to get info about news, friends and weather and start a program. Others want to stare at a JPG.

To each their own.

xWhiplash said,

So you would want MS to update Windows 7 with the start menu open by default and you HAVE to select something or close it to continue? Okay...


You pro-start menu guys are clutching at straws aren't you? who says you *have* to run something? the start screen is *live* maybe people want to get a quick glance at what is important to them before going to the desktop? you know; the weather, emails, appointments, latest news etc. Does the start menu do that? no! your comparison is hugely flawed. You love the 19 year old start menu, good for you! how about just accepting people like different things than trying to *convert* them to your thinking

rippleman said,

In the days before Metro, these were called Icons/widgets that sit on your desktop

I figured someone would draw that parallel, and while it isn't completely out of place, it's a lot easier to clutter up the desktop than the Start Screen, which maintains some white space and organization on its own. And the Screen is designed to handle a lot of stuff on it readily. The desktop isn't as good at it.

Pinning stuff to the Start Screen is an organization system if done right. Dumping stuff on the desktop isn't.

xWhiplash said,

So you would want MS to update Windows 7 with the start menu open by default and you HAVE to select something or close it to continue? Okay...

If that Start Menu can be updated to have better organization, show status updates, effectively utilize my screen real estate to present my program selection rather than being crammed into a corner, and disappear instantly when I start a program. If the Menu can be made to do all of that then yes, I wouldn't mind it coming up right away.

Oh, wait. We already have all that. That's the Start Screen. Never mind. ;-)

Fritzly said,
Popcorn.. checked
Soda.... checked
I am ready...
Is this an invitation only party? I'd like to come in please.

Dot Matrix said,
Wtf is booting to the desktop "more mouse friendly"?

Microsoft needs to stop with this damn "backpedaling".


I do not care where it boot by default.... as long as I can changed.
Furthermore it would make sense that , depending by your hardware, the OS or OEMs will default to either option and, again, others will be a choice to change it.

Fritzly said,

I do not care where it boot by default.... as long as I can changed.
Furthermore it would make sense that , depending by your hardware, the OS or OEMs will default to either option and, again, others will be a choice to change it.

It destroys the unity Microsoft is pressing for.

Are we sure WZOR isn't doing this on his own?

Dot Matrix said,
Wtf is booting to the desktop "more mouse friendly"?

Microsoft needs to stop with this damn "backpedaling".

I just don't understand why the average person would want to boot to desktop, and skip seeing things like Calendar alerts, weather, notifications, messages, and so on, that are useful to see on startup, as well as having easy access to applications they could launch into right away.

Unless... the only reason is they're mad at Metro.

Dot Matrix said,

It destroys the unity Microsoft is pressing for.

Are we sure WZOR isn't doing this on his own?


Unity does not equate to rigid uniformity. IMO the best solution would be to offer a choice at Setup, the user decides, everybody is happy.... and MS profit raise.

Fritzly said,

Unity does not equate to rigid uniformity. IMO the best solution would be to offer a choice at Setup, the user decides, everybody is happy.... and MS profit raise.

'Twould make sense to allow users to auto-boot into any app, including something like a terminal app, or their browser app, or a mail app. That would offer the same option, but also give more choices. I don't know why the Desktop is being treated as a special case.

Its great to see Microsoft is slowly killing Metro, something they should of done in the version 8 alphas.

Keep doing what ure doing Microsoft - at this rate Windows 9 is going to be a sure fire hit

So if your a Microsoft employee, just do the opposite of everything Dot Matrix says, and put it in a desktop version of Windows.
Then do everything he says for tablet versions.

warwagon said,

I would assume windows would detect if you had touch or not. Touch would boot to the start screen , no touch would boot to the desktop.

Why would a non-touch user want to boot to the desktop?

brianshapiro said,

Why would a non-touch user want to boot to the desktop?

What you need to ask yourself is why would a non-touch user want to go anywhere near that Metro screen.

Anarkii said,

What you need to ask yourself is why would a non-touch user want to go anywhere near that Metro screen.

Because its 100x better than the Start Menu ever was, plus has the features that the Sidebar had rolled into it.

I'm a non-touch user and like Metro. Its fine if you don't like it, but don't pretend to speak for all non-touch users.

Anarkii said,
Its great to see Microsoft is slowly killing Metro, something they should of done in the version 8 alphas.

Keep doing what ure doing Microsoft - at this rate Windows 9 is going to be a sure fire hit

So if your a Microsoft employee, just do the opposite of everything Dot Matrix says, and put it in a desktop version of Windows.
Then do everything he says for tablet versions.

Where are they killing Metro? It's still very much a part of Windows.

Anarkii said,

What you need to ask yourself is why would a non-touch user want to go anywhere near that Metro screen.

Why wouldn't they? It's more power than the Start Menu could ever be.

Dot Matrix said,
Wtf is booting to the desktop "more mouse friendly"?

Microsoft needs to stop with this damn "backpedaling".

How about giving users choice and customization? Microsoft are actually responding to feedback. Do this: goto Amazon.com, search for Windows 8, and read what the general public have to say about it.

Anarkii said,

What you need to ask yourself is why would a non-touch user want to go anywhere near that Metro screen.

Exactly

68k said,
How about giving users choice and customization? Microsoft are actually responding to feedback. Do this: goto Amazon.com, search for Windows 8, and read what the general public have to say about it.

And it has that. But in no means should it be enabled by default, not when the Start Screen *will* be shown by default on other devices.

brianshapiro said,

I just don't understand why the average person would want to boot to desktop, and skip seeing things like Calendar alerts, weather, notifications, messages, and so on, that are useful to see on startup, as well as having easy access to applications they could launch into right away.

Unless... the only reason is they're mad at Metro.

Umm because some of us out here don't want nor have a need to see any of that ****.

knighthawk said,

Umm because some of us out here don't want nor have a need to see any of that ****.

And what happens when it becomes the new standard?

Please don't give us this crap again. I prefer the start menu. I prefer having things organized in folders when I need them. I prefer jump lists.

How is the start screen "better than the start menu could EVER POSSIBLY be"? There are things the start menu does better for some people. I care 0% about stupid live tiles, and I prefer having a lot of things organized in folders.

68k said,
How about giving users choice and customization? Microsoft are actually responding to feedback. Do this: goto Amazon.com, search for Windows 8, and read what the general public have to say about it.

Amazon reviews are not representative of the general public. They're people that actively use the internet and buy things online. Plus, some of them are paid to review products.

Dot Matrix said,
Wtf is booting to the desktop "more mouse friendly"?

Microsoft needs to stop with this damn "backpedaling".


Maybe you should take your own advice and get used to it.

Microsoft is not killing metro, you have no clue what you are talking about, they are simply giving people options of how they want to setup their stuff. Metro will still be in version 9 of Windows just updated to modern version 2.

korupt_one said,
Microsoft is not killing metro, you have no clue what you are talking about, they are simply giving people options of how they want to setup their stuff. Metro will still be in version 9 of Windows just updated to modern version 2.

And that is the $1,000,000 question: what this "Metro 2" will look like? How will it function? Will it be, for example, what MS showed, or better envisioned, in the clips like "Office 2017" and "Productivity future vision"? Or, at least, will it be closer to what shown in the clips than to the actual "Metro"?
This is something I am very interested and curious about....

I have a feeling that MS will allow Windows Pro to boot directly to desktop, but when it comes to RT tablet version, it will continue to boot to start screen.

Eric said,

Amazon reviews are not representative of the general public. They're people that actively use the internet and buy things online. Plus, some of them are paid to review products.

No, actually its Neowin who isn't representative of the general public. Anywhere else Metro isn't even an active discussion - everyone hates it.

Nice try discrediting anything negative about W8 though.

brianshapiro said,

I just don't understand why the average person would want to boot to desktop, and skip seeing things like Calendar alerts, weather, notifications, messages, and so on, that are useful to see on startup, as well as having easy access to applications they could launch into right away.

Unless... the only reason is they're mad at Metro.


I use gmail so most of their modern apps are useless to me.

xplatinum said,

I use gmail so most of their modern apps are useless to me.

You don't even need to use the apps, or even take advantage of live tiles. The Start Screen can launch Desktop apps. What's the first thing someone usually does when they start their computer? Launch an app. The Start Screen is a launch board.

brianshapiro said,

You don't even need to use the apps, or even take advantage of live tiles. The Start Screen can launch Desktop apps. What's the first thing someone usually does when they start their computer? Launch an app. The Start Screen is a launch board.


in the end, both the desktop and the start screen are launch boards. what's so wrong about preferring one over the other ? it's not like one was broken. two different interface. it's a matter of taste. plus, i don't like how some icons look when pinned to the start screen. they don't 'blend' nicely into the start screen.

Dot Matrix said,
Wtf is booting to the desktop "more mouse friendly"?

Microsoft needs to stop with this damn "backpedaling".

Once in desktop mode you can always click once and get back your beloved metro. There are so many shortcuts to do that. Metro is past and Desktop is the future. Embrace the change as MS is getting back it senses.

Auditor said,

Once in desktop mode you can always click once and get back your beloved metro. There are so many shortcuts to do that. Metro is past and Desktop is the future. Embrace the change as MS is getting back it senses.


I really do not mind an hybrid OS like Windows 8. But the desktop flavor needs to boot straight to desktop, because that's what makes sense. Make the mobile flavor boot to start screen. And give both the ability to boot the alternative way.

xplatinum said,

in the end, both the desktop and the start screen are launch boards. what's so wrong about preferring one over the other ? it's not like one was broken. two different interface. it's a matter of taste. plus, i don't like how some icons look when pinned to the start screen. they don't 'blend' nicely into the start screen.

No, but in the process of launching an app, I think most people will be happy to see a screen showing useful personalized information.

If you don't find that useful and don't like it, okay, I'm not saying you're wrong. But I think it was the right decision for Microsoft to make it the default, and when provide an option, I hope it stays the default. I get the sense from a lot of other people who don't like it, that it isn't just about taste -- that they're stuck on the idea that the Start Screen is a tablet interface and has no purpose for people who use a mouse and keyboard.

brianshapiro said,

No, but in the process of launching an app, I think most people will be happy to see a screen showing useful personalized information.

If you don't find that useful and don't like it, okay, I'm not saying you're wrong. But I think it was the right decision for Microsoft to make it the default, and when provide an option, I hope it stays the default. I get the sense from a lot of other people who don't like it, that it isn't just about taste -- that they're stuck on the idea that the Start Screen is a tablet interface and has no purpose for people who use a mouse and keyboard.


Default does not mean much when there is an option to change it. As long as the alternative is available i do not really care what's default.

Start screen is fine with mouse and keyboard, But some apps, such as weather where you need to scroll horizontally or by scrolling the horizontal bar really feels awkward to me. All of Microsoft modern apps have this mobile feel to them which I hate when using a mouse.

Auditor said,

Once in desktop mode you can always click once and get back your beloved metro. There are so many shortcuts to do that. Metro is past and Desktop is the future. Embrace the change as MS is getting back it senses.

Once in metro mode you can always click once and get back your beloved desktop. There are so many shortcuts to do that. Desktop is past and Metro is the future. Embrace the change as MS is getting back it senses.

*See what I did there?* And this is the right way; '95 things can't be future and new thing past, wtf are you talking about? 20 fuc**ng years have passed, what do you want? Disconnect from internet, install W95 and go play with your desktop icons or stay on W7 it's supported for another 6 years. Just don't write things like this here.

Dot Matrix said,

It destroys the unity Microsoft is pressing for.

Are we sure WZOR isn't doing this on his own?

there is no "unity", fool!

windows 8 is a beta test for guinea pigs and it has two separate environments - metro and regular
it wont ever be united, because metro doesnt belong on a machine with mouse and keyboard, and when those pieces of hardware are detected and no touch screen, metro should be completely turned off (with the option of user manually turning it back on)

brianshapiro said,

I just don't understand why the average person would want to boot to desktop, and skip seeing things like Calendar alerts, weather, notifications, messages, and so on, that are useful to see on startup, as well as having easy access to applications they could launch into right away.

Unless... the only reason is they're mad at Metro.

Because the 'average' person doesn't give a monkeys about the date, or what messages they've got when they first turn on their PC, they want t get working or playing!

If I, and most people, want to know the weather I look out the window, if I want to know the date I flick my eye down to the Tray. If I want to check my appointments I check the calender on the wall that everyone can read.

Anyway, the point is there should always be choice. We don't live in a police state (yet) and choice is important. I want to be able to boot straight to the desktop, never use ANY touch features and never use any 'Apps'. Someone else will want all of that, and that is perfectly fine with me, as long as there is a choice. One of the things that made the PC so popular is it's customisability, this should get more advanced not less as we go into the future!

Tablets and their OS's are a whole other kettle of fish and shouldn't be lumped in with PCs (or Phones) by consumers or customers.

brianshapiro said,

I just don't understand why the average person would want to boot to desktop, and skip seeing things like Calendar alerts, weather, notifications, messages, and so on, that are useful to see on startup, as well as having easy access to applications they could launch into right away.

Unless... the only reason is they're mad at Metro.

Okay, well i'll use the example of my mum. I installed Windows 8 on her computer, then when she booted up the computer she saw the start screen and everything looked completely different from how she expected. That is actually scary to someone who doesn't know much about computers but needs to use one to get something done. There are many more like her.

I also like to boot to the desktop. Why? Because I have no use for any Metro style apps and while I can launch desktop apps from the home screen, I can also do that from the desktop. Since the desktop (or a desktop based application) is where I will be spending pretty much all of my time, why would I want to see Metro when I boot? I have also set it to show me my apps list rather than the home screen when I click start because the only reason I ever click start is to get to one of my less commonly used applications.

I actually really like the Metro/Modern UI for mobile devices but I'm not a big fan of it while using a mouse and keyboard. I have to agree with a Fritzly; it should only be set to boot to desktop if the form factor of the computer its running on works well with the desktop.

Edited by M4x1mus, Feb 7 2014, 1:24pm :

Dot Matrix said,

Why wouldn't they? It's more power than the Start Menu could ever be.

Really? The start menu is primarily used by desktop users to search for applications. What about the start screen improves upon this?

It searches modern apps too but someone who only really uses the desktop wouldn't have much use for that feature.

It searches the internet, but that could easily have been built into the start menu.

Not really sure what improvements you're getting at here.

M4x1mus said,

Really? The start menu is primarily used by desktop users to search for applications. What about the start screen improves upon this?

It searches modern apps too but someone who only really uses the desktop wouldn't have much use for that feature.

It searches the internet, but that could easily have been built into the start menu.

Not really sure what improvements you're getting at here.

But but but, the tiles are big enough for touch interfaces. Oh and also don't forget you get 'live' information that is a MUST MUST MUST have these days it seems.

xWhiplash said,

But but but, the tiles are big enough for touch interfaces. Oh and also don't forget you get 'live' information that is a MUST MUST MUST have these days it seems.

Haha , yup and there's no way of displaying any sort of live information on the desktop. It would take a paradigm shift for such a crazy idea to even be attempted /s

Zaic said,
Some people want work to be done, metro is for daydreamers.

What about people that use both? I have Twitter & Skype open on Modern UI on one screen and do my browsing etc. on the other...

I really don't get why this discussion is still going. Who cares what's default if there's an option to change it. Everyone is arguing over why oranges taste better than apples and vice-versa.

Lord Method Man said,

No, actually its Neowin who isn't representative of the general public. Anywhere else Metro isn't even an active discussion - everyone hates it.

Nice try discrediting anything negative about W8 though.

Neowin is also not a representative sample. Nice try discrediting anything positive about W8, though.

brianshapiro said,

I just don't understand why the average person would want to boot to desktop, and skip seeing things like Calendar alerts, weather, notifications, messages, and so on, that are useful to see on startup, as well as having easy access to applications they could launch into right away.

Unless... the only reason is they're mad at Metro.

Because in corporate environments, there are workflows that have programs launching at startup, and those programs are on the desktop. You never get metro updates on those.

Honestly the next logical step for Microsoft would be to change icons to be Metro-style anywhere. Small icons can be on the taskbar, small/medium/large metro icons can be on the desktop. Then you truly have a merging of all worlds.

mram said,

Because in corporate environments, there are workflows that have programs launching at startup, and those programs are on the desktop. You never get metro updates on those.

Honestly the next logical step for Microsoft would be to change icons to be Metro-style anywhere. Small icons can be on the taskbar, small/medium/large metro icons can be on the desktop. Then you truly have a merging of all worlds.

If a user has applications launching at startup, then they would be moved to the desktop once those applications load, even if the option to start on the desktop isn't ticked.

It's "Modern UI", not "Metro", and Microsoft are improving it, not abandoning it.
Stop hanging on to the old and get with this Modern stuff...It is a lot better than the haters believe.

I can't believe there is still so much hate for this. Do you people actually use Windows?

Edited by TrickyDickie, Feb 8 2014, 12:08am :

TrickyDickie said,
It's "Modern UI", not "Metro", and Microsoft are improving it, not abandoning it.
Stop hanging on to the old and get with this Modern stuff...It is a lot better than the haters believe.

I can't believe there is still so much hate for this. Do you people actually use Windows?

It is BUTT UGLY and MS isn't doing any thing to fix that. Take away any other issues (and there are a bunch) and you will still have that one. Ugly is not something people want to use. WP (and maybe even W8) would have taken off like a rocket by now if it wasn't so UGLY.

runningnak3d said,

It is BUTT UGLY and MS isn't doing any thing to fix that. Take away any other issues (and there are a bunch) and you will still have that one. Ugly is not something people want to use. WP (and maybe even W8) would have taken off like a rocket by now if it wasn't so UGLY.

That's just your opinion, and one not many people agree with. Microsoft has gotten much praise for their Metro UIs and design guidelines.

Dot Matrix said,

That's just your opinion, and one not many people agree with. Microsoft has gotten much praise for their Metro UIs and design guidelines.

Really? Much praise? From who? Here is the reality -- there are a relatively few people that think that monochrome crap looks good (you being one of them).

runningnak3d said,

Really? Much praise? From who? Here is the reality -- there are a relatively few people that think that monochrome crap looks good (you being one of them).

Really? Is that why flat design is the new thing now?

runningnak3d said,

Really? Much praise? From who? Here is the reality -- there are a relatively few people that think that monochrome crap looks good (you being one of them).

May be Dork Matric should use Monochromatic monitor as well. Since Metro with its dull and monochrome, flat and ugly look might display better on that.

mram said,

Because in corporate environments, there are workflows that have programs launching at startup, and those programs are on the desktop. You never get metro updates on those.

Honestly the next logical step for Microsoft would be to change icons to be Metro-style anywhere. Small icons can be on the taskbar, small/medium/large metro icons can be on the desktop. Then you truly have a merging of all worlds.

I understand, but thats why I was referring to the average person. I think they should extend the option and allow Windows to auto-launch into a specific Metro app and not just the desktop.

I also agree with you on your second idea, but basically what I think they should do is bring WinRT (the API) to the Desktop, and that would allow people to make Metro-like desktop apps, and install them from the Windows Store, because they'd use the same app model. Then, all Start Screen Metro apps would really be is 'full screen apps', and in some cases you could have an option to switch between full screen and windowed versions of the same app.. and that would get rid of the whole tablet vs. mouse controversy.

Auditor said,

May be Dork Matric should use Monochromatic monitor as well. Since Metro with its dull and monochrome, flat and ugly look might display better on that.

Where is Metro monochrome? You toss these words around, but never truly understand their meaning. Metro is far from monochromatic.

Auditor said,

May be Dork Matric should use Monochromatic monitor as well. Since Metro with its dull and monochrome, flat and ugly look might display better on that.

Yeah. And get rid of icons, too. Icons are too skeuomorphic. Just have a text-only interface. Simplicity and minimalism are the hot thing now.

Monochrome colors, no icons, everything full screen. The future!!

Dot Matrix said,

Where is Metro monochrome? You toss these words around, but never truly understand their meaning. Metro is far from monochromatic.

Its not. I have pictures all over my start screen, including a slideshow of whats in my pictures folder, photos of my contacts, an image of my desktop, news images, a picture of the weather. The icons are monochrome to keep the design clean and help focus on the content. The lack of bevels also help focus on the content. Bevels don't really add anything anyway.

Dot Matrix said,

Where is Metro monochrome? You toss these words around, but never truly understand their meaning. Metro is far from monochromatic.

Some people are taking this too far. I used to think like them, but the more I was forced to use Windows 8, the more I liked it (same with iOS 7). I actually found 8 to be faster, more efficient and more secure than 7 - it was great that Microsoft cleaned up the code for max efficiency on tablets. Windows 8 STILL HAS a Desktop with a taskbar you can pin apps to - you can completely ignore Metro if you want to (funny how many people don't seem to want to and complain about it instead). I also agree Aero is starting to look old - clean and simple is the new standard. Microsoft know what they're doing. Can't wait for 8.1 Update 1.