New Line drops HD DVD as well

It is now clear that New Line (Owned by Warner Bros.) will also drop HD DVD in favor of Blu-ray. The announcement comes on a day that can only be described as a nightmare for the HD DVD camp. This means that from May 2008 no titles from New Line and Warner Bros. will be released on HD DVD. The reason for the May 2008 date is that Warner Bros. is currently under contract to deliver titles on the HD DVD format. The contract ends on that date.

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HD-VMD FTW...

100GB on a dvd size disc, backwards compatibility and upscaling with existing DVD, low cost production red laser tech, upgradable with blue laser (later) for greater storage sizes..w00t.

NICE.....

Non upgradable Blu-Ray Profile 1.0 and doesnt support mandatory hd-dvd requires. I wouldnt touch that with a 50 foot pole.

Aside from the amount of data the discs hold, is there a quality difference? Both are HD so there should be no difference, right?

like, i dunnoe, doesnt blu ray hold more data per disc or something than hd dvd? so if everyone goes blu ray, the world will have more data... or something...

P.s. Sony Haters, Blu-Ray isn't and never was just a Sony technlogy. The pre-bluray tech was developed by Sony AND Pioneer. There were 9 founding members of the Blu-Ray assoc of which Sony is one. Hitachi, LG, Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Sharp and Thomson are the others.

Saying Blu-Ray is just Sony is like saying HD-DVD is just Toshiba, just plain wrong.

Talk about Minidisc then you might have a point.

im still keeping my mouth shut... i have a HD-DVD player, and i'd like to see HD-dvd win, but as we all know from past experiences in wars around the world...just cuz one person is down doesn't mean they're out for good. HD-DVD can still pull ahead. When the day comes that HD-DVD players aren't sold anymore and no movies are made in HDDVD, then that is the day you can say bluray won...but until then....its still anyones game.

Don't say that, it was only recently (i.e this century) Sony finally dropped the consumer version of Betamax! Are you saying that VHS hadn't won till then!?

Everyone? It's one studio (New Line is part of Warner). Are you forgetting that Paramount went HD-DVD exclusive not long ago? Each format has it's own exclusives. This is nowhere near as bad for HD-DVD as everyone is making out. It is just ONE battle in a long, drawn out war.

TCLN Ryster said,
Everyone? It's one studio (New Line is part of Warner). Are you forgetting that Paramount went HD-DVD exclusive not long ago? Each format has it's own exclusives. This is nowhere near as bad for HD-DVD as everyone is making out. It is just ONE battle in a long, drawn out war.

the problem is Paramont is like the only studio still supporting it. almost everything else is blu-ray only so yes it is that bad for hd-dvd right now.

macrosslover said,

the problem is Paramont is like the only studio still supporting it. almost everything else is blu-ray only so yes it is that bad for hd-dvd right now.

Don't forget Universal.

Paramount have only gone HD-DVD exclusive for 18-months after they were paid to do so. After that time they will most likely become neutral or possibly switch to Blu-Ray, depending on what market conditions are like. However, at this rate it's looking like HD-DVD will struggle to continue.

newline eh. i'm gonna need me some lotr and hobbit (in a few years) in HD, I guess this forces me into a format (though I'm still gonna wait for more reasonable prices for non budget hardware).

If the war doesnt end soon it will be outdated techonology and replaced. This is good news, I dont favour either format but ultimately I think its the PS3 thats helping it win... anyone with a PS3 isnt going to go buy a HDDVD player too.

The ones I feel sorry for are the ones who have already bought a (non-PS3) Blu-Ray player. When movies start coming out that will require Profile 2 players and NONE of the existing players will be able to play them, there are going to be some pi$$ed of people. Why do say they won't play? The profile 2 spec requires a network connection. NONE of the existing players (with few very expensive exceptions) have a network port. HD DVD was essentially a finished spec. This profile business people is going to bite some asses when 2.0 is finally approved and required. Screw the BDA.

It will be along time before I buy a standalone BD player. The reason BD "won" was not because of any real superiority. Far from it. It's because of the same reason people still buy into Bose. Marketing. Toshiba really dropped the ball in getting the HD DVD format in our faces. HD DVD is a cheaper format to produce. Current DVD lines can produce HD DVD with very little outlay in capital. The opposite is true for BD. It does look as though Sony may actually get their first real win in a new technology arena. Trust me, you are NOT going to see $50 players ANYTIME soon.

Too bad. This is a real disappointment.

they won't require them. But much of the extra content will be wiped out of them. Most likely all the profile stuff will mostly affect the menus and stuff like that, which will most likely make it easy to make multiple versions of menus for different profiles which should be fine. I've got a PS3 so i'm very happy. I've got several blu-ray movies.

The main feature will work regardless of profile version, it's extra content that MAY be limited on some discs if the distro chooses to make use of the new features.

Hey blu-ray 1.0 players will be able to play the latest movies for a long time to come, the HD-DVD players are the ones that will not be able to play new content first due to the hardware limitation of the fact it aint a blu-ray player.

Galley said,
Dozens and dozens of companies are members of the Blu-ray Disc Association. It's not just a Sony thing.

Exactly. The fanboy/brat logic that is spamming the forums right now is ridiculous. Don't want this format? Have fun waiting another decade.

*waves bye to New Line* No Sony for me! See ya when another format comes around or you pull yer head out! Don't tell me all the movie studios can't afford to support both formats... If Blizzard can maintain a Mac and PC WoW client Warner, et al can master two discs.

GreyWolfSC said,
*waves bye to New Line* No Sony for me! See ya when another format comes around or you pull yer head out! Don't tell me all the movie studios can't afford to support both formats... If Blizzard can maintain a Mac and PC WoW client Warner, et al can master two discs.

Excuse me, how is it their fault that you were foolish enough too early in purchasing new technology?

GreyWolfSC said,
*waves bye to New Line* No Sony for me! See ya when another format comes around or you pull yer head out! Don't tell me all the movie studios can't afford to support both formats... If Blizzard can maintain a Mac and PC WoW client Warner, et al can master two discs.

HD DVD is going to be dead soon, and Blu-Ray players will eventually reach $50 like DVD players have. You STILL are not going to buy a Blu-Ray player at $50?

mrp04 said,

HD DVD is going to be dead soon, and Blu-Ray players will eventually reach $50 like DVD players have. You STILL are not going to buy a Blu-Ray player at $50?

What are you talking about? If HD DVD dies, Blu-ray player prices will stagnate.

Slimy said,

What are you talking about? If HD DVD dies, Blu-ray player prices will stagnate.

Just like how DVD players are no less than $200, right?

Just because there's one format doesn't mean there will be no decline in price. Wasn't like that for VHS or DVD, why Bluray?

Dakkaroth said,

Just like how DVD players are no less than $200, right?

Just because there's one format doesn't mean there will be no decline in price. Wasn't like that for VHS or DVD, why Bluray? :huh:

just because there is one format doesn't mean that all the manufacturers won't have to compete with each other to make blu-ray players. Sony will have to compete with jvc, matsu****a, samsung and a host of other manufacters to release a blu-ray player.

Who the hell needs two formats??

Give me one that does what it's supposed to and looks good, and we can move on with life.

Dakkaroth said,

Just like how DVD players are no less than $200, right?

Just because there's one format doesn't mean there will be no decline in price. Wasn't like that for VHS or DVD, why Bluray? :huh:

What makes you think the prices will go down? With HD-DVD out the picture, there's only one format which Sony holds an interest in and just like the rest of their products, they will want to keep prices high.

It's going to be like the cell phone carriers in Canada, they claim they are competitive but what they do is keep prices relatively the same and all three carriers are enjoying the gouging prices because it doesn't matter where the customer goes for service.

mlerner said,

What makes you think the prices will go down? With HD-DVD out the picture, there's only one format which Sony holds an interest in and just like the rest of their products, they will want to keep prices high.

It's going to be like the cell phone carriers in Canada, they claim they are competitive but what they do is keep prices relatively the same and all three carriers are enjoying the gouging prices because it doesn't matter where the customer goes for service.

by your logic the new PS2s should at least cost $300 as that was the release price.

mlerner said,

What makes you think the prices will go down? With HD-DVD out the picture, there's only one format which Sony holds an interest in and just like the rest of their products, they will want to keep prices high.

It's going to be like the cell phone carriers in Canada, they claim they are competitive but what they do is keep prices relatively the same and all three carriers are enjoying the gouging prices because it doesn't matter where the customer goes for service.

Because all technology drops in price, unless that technology is no longer being made.

Your basis for a price increase is unfounded. Just because it's one format does not mean it's going to stay at a high price. It's never been that way in the past, why should it change now? VHS and DVD were high to start too, but they eventually came down. Bluray is still relatively new, and I wouldn't doubt that players will drop well in price plenty throughout 2008.

seta-san said,
by your logic the new PS2s should at least cost $300 as that was the release price.

Have a look at when the PS2 was released. Also consider that the PS2 was not the only console on the market during this time.

KeR said,
Is this what being a fanboy does? Overwrites logic?

What are you on about? Fanboy? I don't have either, thank you. Just because I don't want everything Sony craps out makes me a fanboy? For whom?

kaiwai said,

Excuse me, how is it their fault that you were foolish enough too early in purchasing new technology?

Where in my comment did I say I purchased anything?! Try reading before you hit that R or Q button. What I'm saying is the movie studios are full of it if they try to claim they couldn't support both. The simple fact is most of them took bribes to take sides and it was unnecessary.

mrp04 said,

HD DVD is going to be dead soon, and Blu-Ray players will eventually reach $50 like DVD players have. You STILL are not going to buy a Blu-Ray player at $50?

Nope.

Slimy said,

Have a look at when the PS2 was released. Also consider that the PS2 was not the only console on the market during this time.

And there are other manufacturers making Bluray players, not just Sony.

seta-san said,
just because there is one format doesn't mean that all the manufacturers won't have to compete with each other to make blu-ray players. Sony will have to compete with jvc, matsu****a, samsung and a host of other manufacters to release a blu-ray player.

Good point.

mlerner said,

What makes you think the prices will go down? With HD-DVD out the picture, there's only one format which Sony holds an interest in and just like the rest of their products, they will want to keep prices high.

It's going to be like the cell phone carriers in Canada, they claim they are competitive but what they do is keep prices relatively the same and all three carriers are enjoying the gouging prices because it doesn't matter where the customer goes for service.

There will always be company's competing, even if there is only one format. One format is better for the consumer, regardless of the format that wins. And if you think Canadian Telecoms suck, you obviously haven't travelled to other countries.

Slimy said,

What are you talking about? If HD DVD dies, Blu-ray player prices will stagnate.

Wow! Not at all. Production volumes will go up because customers will be more sure of their choice, and customers will also unite behind one form of technology. This will drive demands and reduce prices a lot. See also: VHS, CD, DVD. This is the BEST that could happen to us, as long as we don't have a favorite format not being Blu-ray, at least.

You WOULD have a point if e.g. Sony had a monopoly on manufacturing these things, but they of course do not. There's actually a fierce competition in the BD market among drive manufacturers as well as disc manufacturers.

mlerner said,

What makes you think the prices will go down?


Competition!

Have some of you guys gone mad overnight or something? There's still competition! A lot!

Sony, Pioneer, LG, Samsung, Verbatim, ... All involved in Blu-ray device/disc development.

This is the VHS story all over again. (and yes, VHS, DVD, etc -- common formats like these are damn cheap now) If this format gets common on the market thanks to the format war being over, that is the best thing that could happen to wide adoption. The FORMAT may be left solo, but that doesn't mean there isn't hardware competition! Come on guys! It'll even be catalyzed by this.

LTD said,
Who the hell needs two formats??

Give me one that does what it's supposed to and looks good, and we can move on with life.

+1 I refuse to move to HD/BD until there is a selected format. I dont care which it is im just tired of this crap holding back my collection

GreyWolfSC said,
*waves bye to New Line* No Sony for me! See ya when another format comes around or you pull yer head out! Don't tell me all the movie studios can't afford to support both formats... If Blizzard can maintain a Mac and PC WoW client Warner, et al can master two discs.

Sure, dont cry when you miss out on the movies I have both at the moment but I like BRD's better. Hope you have a nice and long vacation.