New Macbook Pro models available

Apple have released three new MacBook Pro's with the 13" version starting at just $1199, the 15" model at $1799 and the higher end offering at $2499.

Specs of which already started leaking out a few days ago won't come as a surprise for many, but do include as expected, Intel's Thunderbolt technology. Apple advertises the Thunderbolt pipeline as being more than 12 times faster than FireWire 800 and up to 20 times faster than USB 2.0.

The 13-inch MacBook Pro now features a 2.3GHz Intel Core i5 processor or the faster dual-core processor — the 2.7GHz Intel Core i7. With Turbo Boost speeds up to 3.4GHz, of which Apple claims will offer double the speed of the previous generation. The new 15 and 17-inch models feature a 2.3GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 processor — with Turbo Boost speeds up to 3.4GHz and up to 8MB of shared L3 cache.

All models feature the Intel HD Graphics 3000 processor, which switches to an AMD Radeon graphics processor with up to 1GB of dedicated GDDR5 video memory.

  • 13" Intel 3000 (shared memory)
  • 15" Dual Intel HD Graphics 3000 with (2.0 Ghz model) AMD Radeon 6490M 256MB or (2.2 Ghz model) AMD Radeon HD 6750M 1GB
  • 17" Dual Intel HD Graphics 3000 with AMD Radeon HD 6750M 1GB

Thanks virtorio (in the comments).

Also included is a FaceTime HD camera, which allows 720p HD calls from one new MacBook Pro to another as well as an iPhone 4 or the new iPod Touch.

Apple also claims to offer much better battery life in their new line, claiming that wireless web browsing can be achieved for up to 7 hours without a recharge.

You can learn more about the new features here.

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Veim said,
13" definitely s**ks. Crappy video, crappy resolution... I thought Apple would make a better thing.
looking at it in comparison to the MBA, i think they have retarded it to perhaps ensure it doesn't step on the MBA toes..

perhaps they could be phasing it out?

BGM said,
looking at it in comparison to the MBA, i think they have retarded it to perhaps ensure it doesn't step on the MBA toes..

perhaps they could be phasing it out?

It doesn't really make that much sense to get the 13" MBP right now, I'd go for an MBA instead

Rudy said,
It doesn't really make that much sense to get the 13" MBP right now, I'd go for an MBA instead

I wouldn't say it doesn't make sense to get the MBP. Apart from the fact isn't especially capable for much more than writing documents and browsing the internet, the MBP has a superior processor, double the RAM, and useful sized hard drive, an optical drive, a (slightly) better graphics chip and is much better value for money.

The only thing the MBA has over it is a higher res display and a slightly cheaper baseline model.

virtorio said,

I wouldn't say it doesn't make sense to get the MBP. Apart from the fact isn't especially capable for much more than writing documents and browsing the internet, the MBP has a superior processor, double the RAM, and useful sized hard drive, an optical drive, a (slightly) better graphics chip and is much better value for money.

The only thing the MBA has over it is a higher res display and a slightly cheaper baseline model.

The macbook air didn't get an upgrade today. So when that upgrade comes (if they keep the same price and display) it would probably be better.

/- Razorfold said,
The macbook air didn't get an upgrade today. So when that upgrade comes (if they keep the same price and display) it would probably be better.

Comparing a product with one that doesn't exist (and, judging by the MBA refresh frequency, isn't going to for a long while yet) makes no sense.

virtorio said,

Comparing a product with one that doesn't exist (and, judging by the MBA refresh frequency, isn't going to for a long while yet) makes no sense.
Ok well if you compared the MBA and the MBP before the update it just got the MBA was superior. So by that logic you can assume the next MBA that will come out (hopefully this summer) will be very similar to the current MBP plus some extras (I'm guessing they'll use an i3 instead of an i5 though)

Rudy said,
Ok well if you compared the MBA and the MBP before the update it just got the MBA was superior. So by that logic you can assume the next MBA that will come out (hopefully this summer) will be very similar to the current MBP plus some extras (I'm guessing they'll use an i3 instead of an i5 though)
I have no idea what you're on about. The MBA isn't even supposed to be a competitor to the MacBook Pros.

Veim said,
13" definitely s**ks. Crappy video, crappy resolution... I thought Apple would make a better thing.

But but it's made from Apple so it must be good.
<sarcasm>

Veim said,
13" definitely s**ks. Crappy video, crappy resolution... I thought Apple would make a better thing.

But but it's made from Apple so it must be good.
<sarcasm>

virtorio said,
I have no idea what you're on about. The MBA isn't even supposed to be a competitor to the MacBook Pros.

Lets wait and see. Macbook is going to get replaced by Macbook Air so it has to be good.

Living4Christ said,

But but it's made from Apple so it must be good.
<sarcasm>

Of course. iPieceofs**t will be a great product too, fanboys will love it.
As for me, keeping up with good old Thinkpad. Unbreakable, reliable and OS-independent.

Master1 said,
So the 13' gets some crappy Intel graphics
What is up with the lower end 15 inch getting only 256 mb of vram. This is 2011. 512 mb should be a minimal at least
17 inch has good specs, but price is still way too high imo

I guess I should just wait for the next update which will happen in 2012 along with the full redesign http://www.macrumors.com/2011/...macbook-pro-revamp-in-2012/

The intel graphics are better than last gen macbooks nVidia GPUs. For like light gaming and hd movies and such they're really all you need.

Nobody is going to buy a 13" laptop for playing crysis lol.

/- Razorfold said,
The intel graphics are better than last gen macbooks nVidia GPUs.

Nope they aren't.
The 320M is better.
Although the i5 CPU in the new model probably helps it be better overall.

WelshBluebird said,

Nope they aren't.
The 320M is better.
Although the i5 CPU in the new model probably helps it be better overall.

Anandtech did a benchmark review...the HD3000 constantly comes out 5-10% better.

WelshBluebird said,

Nope they aren't.
The 320M is better.
Although the i5 CPU in the new model probably helps it be better overall.

320M is NOT better than the Intel. Check your sources.

Master1 said,
So the 13' gets some crappy Intel graphics
What is up with the lower end 15 inch getting only 256 mb of vram. This is 2011. 512 mb should be a minimal at least
17 inch has good specs, but price is still way too high imo

I guess I should just wait for the next update which will happen in 2012 along with the full redesign http://www.macrumors.com/2011/...macbook-pro-revamp-in-2012/

I highly doubt it will be a breakthrough laptop design if you look at their products for the last decade. Nothing have changed and it will be that way just higher prices for underpower laptop that's all I can see from them.

anti glare must be the default option =/

i expected an 13" with dedicated graphics option and lower price of 15" which its still the entry lvl for those who want dedicated graphics macbooks oh well...

stay free

if only I could afford one even if I sold my current computer I'd be lucky to get £600... drop in the ocean to buy a macbook pro.

Well as spectulated new Macbook Pro's and thunderbolt have released, but that raises some doubts in my mind, they are:-

1) Intel and Apple are claiming data transfer speed of order of 10Gb/s or 1.25GB/s. But Laptops are coming with a standard 5400rpm HDD, is this HDD capable enough to support this kind of transfer rates.

2) Intel's Thunderbolt page says "all Thunderbolt devices share a common connector", does that mean we are going have to this extra port on all laptops, I would have preferred an existing common port. There is also a risk that technolgy may follow the faith of FireWire. Check : http://www.intel.com...rbolt/index.htm

3) How in this world can a 17" Laptop with Quad Core i7 Processor, and 1GB AMD Graphics can give a battery backup of 7 Hours?

The AMD graphics card only comes into play with heavier usage (not web browsing) and the CPU's don't always operate at the 100% advertised speeds when it's not needed.

1. You can have multiple things on one connection (displays, hard-drives, other peripherals), and devices can be chained together, hence the need for the high transfer rates.

virtorio said,
1. You can have multiple things on one connection (displays, hard-drives, other peripherals), and devices can be chained together, hence the need for the high transfer rates.
There is only one problem.

Intel claimed 10Gb/s with light, and this is now copper (so I doubt it gives the same speed). High res displays have quite a high data rate, for example a 2560x1600 display requires 10.6Gb/s sooo the ports bandwidth will be almost completely used up if you plug in just a display.

Bah can't edit my post <.<

3) How in this world can a 17" Laptop with Quad Core i7 Processor, and 1GB AMD Graphics can give a battery backup of 7 Hours?

My dell XPS with a Quad core i7 (no integrated GPU) and a 445M GT (Fermi) gets 4-5 hours of battery. Considering the new sandy bridges have an integrated GPU it's not surprising it gets 7 hours (Anandtech tested one a while back and it gave them more than 8 hours of battery).

/- Razorfold said,
There is only one problem.

Intel claimed 10Gb/s with light, and this is now copper (so I doubt it gives the same speed). High res displays have quite a high data rate, for example a 2560x1600 display requires 10.6Gb/s sooo the ports bandwidth will be almost completely used up if you plug in just a display.


You can do 10Gb over copper at short distances. Cisco make TwinX cables for this.

Sn00pY said,

You can do 10Gb over copper at short distances. Cisco make TwinX cables for this.
Yes I'm aware of that but those cables are quite expensive. And you have to consider that when Intel debuted Light Peak (using light) they said it would do upto 10Gbps...so are they saying that (for now) light isn't faster? I mean it uses a PCI-E connector so its not like the hardware couldn't handle it.

Sorry I don't get it... What's with people saying that having an i5 or i7 on a laptop being an epic fail? It maketh not much sense to my brain. What else are they expecting? IBM Watson Supercomputer?

SaLiVa said,
Sorry I don't get it... What's with people saying that having an i5 or i7 on a laptop being an epic fail? It maketh not much sense to my brain. What else are they expecting? IBM Watson Supercomputer?

AMD's fusion chips would have been a better choice

Intel integrated graphics on the 13"? Wow, you finally advance the processors and then you essentially drag it right back down. No thanks.

Ayepecks said,
Intel integrated graphics on the 13"? Wow, you finally advance the processors and then you essentially drag it right back down. No thanks.

The Intel HD 3000 (sandybridge integrated) is probably a decent bit better than the old 13" model's gpu.

Ayepecks said,
Intel integrated graphics on the 13"? Wow, you finally advance the processors and then you essentially drag it right back down. No thanks.
It out-preforms the NVIDIA GeForce 310M in most cases and is adequate for light gaming.

Ayepecks said,
Intel integrated graphics on the 13"? Wow, you finally advance the processors and then you essentially drag it right back down. No thanks.

agree on this one, no cuda nor opencl... sure raw performance its almost the same but its hard to compare a decent nvidia gpu vs intel one

eilegz said,

agree on this one, no cuda nor opencl... sure raw performance its almost the same but its hard to compare a decent nvidia gpu vs intel one

Intels GPU will support OpenCL (Cuda obviously not since its a nVidia technology). They have drivers and an SDK for pcs available on their website.

/- Razorfold said,
Intels GPU will support OpenCL (Cuda obviously not since its a nVidia technology). They have drivers and an SDK for pcs available on their website.

If im not mistaken OpenCl on the processor only, and not the GPU so its not that great

matrix64 said,
Very good, but do they come with an USB port?

Next year they will still be using USB 2.0 while PC OEM's will use LightPeak and USB 3.0.

now you too can have an incompatable LightPeak implemtation, not only will you have an odd shaped connector, but when the rest of the world gets it in USB port format, you wont be able to hook to it without an adapter... yay mac....

neufuse said,
now you too can have an incompatable LightPeak implemtation, not only will you have an odd shaped connector, but when the rest of the world gets it in USB port format, you wont be able to hook to it without an adapter... yay mac....

ummmm ? im pretty sure that intel has adopted the same connector (mini display port) after the USB working group complained about intel using the USB format … oh and INTEL came up with the Thunderbolt name, so LightPeak is no more … http://www.intel.com/technology/io/thunderbolt/index.htm

xfodder said,

ummmm ? im pretty sure that intel has adopted the same connector (mini display port) after the USB working group complained about intel using the USB format … oh and INTEL came up with the Thunderbolt name, so LightPeak is no more … http://www.intel.com/technology/io/thunderbolt/index.htm

our latest Lightpeak hardware eval kits still had USB ports *scratches head* and that was not that long ago we got access to that

neufuse said,

our latest Lightpeak hardware eval kits still had USB ports *scratches head* and that was not that long ago we got access to that

just looked at the date we recieved it, its only from November 2010... so in about 3-4 months they completely changed the plug and usage? odd move

neufuse said,
now you too can have an incompatable LightPeak implemtation, not only will you have an odd shaped connector, but when the rest of the world gets it in USB port format, you wont be able to hook to it without an adapter... yay mac....

hahaha - sounds like the minidisplay port story all over again ;-)

they even aknowledge this on their site:
"To connect a DisplayPort, DVI, HDMI, or VGA display, just use an existing adapter." (src: http://www.apple.com/thunderbolt/)

No 15" with i5.... now that's what I call epic fail. Well, but it makes sense, they couldn't have sold it at that price. Sorry but no thanks. Going for some cute TimelineX then... for half the price, twice the performance, and more battery.

Islander said,
No 15" with i5.... now that's what I call epic fail. Well, but it makes sense, they couldn't have sold it at that price. Sorry but no thanks. Going for some cute TimelineX then... for half the price, twice the performance, and more battery.
How is the 15" having an i7 "epic fail"?

Islander said,
No 15" with i5.... now that's what I call epic fail. Well, but it makes sense, they couldn't have sold it at that price. Sorry but no thanks. Going for some cute TimelineX then... for half the price, twice the performance, and more battery.

adaptor or not, if it can double as hdmi/DP port, as well as usb 3.0 with an adaptor, IT IS versatile as hell

virtorio said,
How is the 15" having an i7 "epic fail"?

Because there's no 15" option below 2411,78 $US, and most (~95%) people don't need four CPU cores in their notebooks. E-p-i-c fail.

Islander said,

Because there's no 15" option below 2411,78 $US, and most (~95%) people don't need four CPU cores in their notebooks. E-p-i-c fail.

And that's why they start at $1799

Tanshin said,

And that's why they start at $1799

Believe it or not, there are a few more countries than the USA. More than 2400 US Dollar for the cheapest 15" MacBook Pro is... well... you'd have to be really stupid to spend that money.

Well i'm sure they'll sell well as they always do but nothing earth shattering Still though, looking pretty sweet!

Ha, and they did call it "Thunderbolt!" - Guess they got the HTC fever that's been going around? LOL

For all of you who hate the black frame around the screen, if you select the anti glare option, you get the silver frame back. Did they always have this? I don't remember that being the case...

NeoXY said,
For all of you who hate the black frame around the screen, if you select the anti glare option, you get the silver frame back. Did they always have this? I don't remember that being the case...
Yes, they've always done this. I'm own a matte mid '09 MBP (matte models were pretty elusive then) and the frame is silver.

Quick Shot said,
What GPU will they be using?

13" Intel 3000 (shared memory)
15" Dual Intel HD Graphics 3000 with (2.0 ghz model) AMD Radeon 6490M 256MB or (2.2 ghz model) AMD Radeon HD 6750M 1GB
17" Dual Intel HD Graphics 3000 with AMD Radeon HD 6750M 1GB

virtorio said,
Hmmm, was hoping for a little more on the 13" model. Screen resolution is a bit of a joke.

same here. I basically wanted the 15" specs in a 13" package

bobbba said,
Me too

Might go for an air instead if it gets an i3 or i5 update

when they get it most likely it will be like 13" model without nvidia gpu and with Intel one.

duritz said,
why are they so behind all the time. core i5 and i7? am i supposed to be impressed?

Uh.. what were you expecting?

duritz said,
why are they so behind all the time. core i5 and i7? am i supposed to be impressed?

Not sure if you were just trolling or not, but for the record, these sandybridge cpus are the freshest available. Were you expecting future tech in a present design?

duritz said,
why are they so behind all the time. core i5 and i7? am i supposed to be impressed?

LOL! Troll fail of the year goes to this guy.

duritz said,
why are they so behind all the time. core i5 and i7? am i supposed to be impressed?

I am not trolling, just thinking i5 and i7 have been out for awhile and Apple just now refreshed

duritz said,
why are they so behind all the time. core i5 and i7? am i supposed to be impressed?

If they already supply their laptops with the current best processors, no matter how old they are, if they are still currently the best, what are they supposed to put in there?

duritz said,

I am not trolling, just thinking i5 and i7 have been out for awhile and Apple just now refreshed

Do you know a processor better than the i series that you would have put in the laptop?

duritz said,

I am not trolling, just thinking i5 and i7 have been out for awhile and Apple just now refreshed

I guess the word Sandy Bridge means nothing to you.

duritz said,
why are they so behind all the time. core i5 and i7? am i supposed to be impressed?

PC OEM's update their hardware whenever Intel release new processor while as for them users have to wait a year or more for hardware refresh.

as i said in the thread... the fact the 13" will not have a cost option of a 1440x900 resolution panel (same as MBA) has just saved me a grand tbh..

come on apple, pull your fingers out!

BGM said,
as i said in the thread... the fact the 13" will not have a cost option of a 1440x900 resolution panel (same as MBA) has just saved me a grand tbh..

come on apple, pull your fingers out!


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