New Start8 beta for Windows 8 released

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A few days after Microsoft launched the Consumer Preview build of Windows 8, developer Stardock launched the first beta of Start8, which aimed to give a version of the familiar Start menu to Windows 8 Metro owners. Today, Stardock has released a new and free beta of Start8 that adds quite a few new features.

While previous versions of the Start8 beta only put in a start button that opened up the "Modern" user interface for Windows 8, this new version has a number of new features, including:

  • Windows 7 style Start menu with Windows 8 enhancements
    • Users can search for Windows 8-style (Metro) apps with it
    • Users can pin Metro apps to it
    • Full support for Jump Lists
    • Unified Search
    • Automatically matches color to the color of the taskbar
  • Start button is now skinnable
  • Users can boot directly to the Windows 8 desktop
  • Optionally disable the desktop “hot spots”.
  • Fast access to shut down, devices, music, documents, videos
  • Supports WindowFX 5.1 startmenu animations (currently in beta)
  • The Windows 8 Start screen becomes accessible from the Start menu
  • Start menu size fully configurable
  • Adds option for WinKey to show fullscreen Metro desktop.

You can check out a video showing off how the new version of Start8 works below. It will work with both the preview and final versions of Windows 8.

Source: Stardock | Image via Stardock

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Needs at least one thing from Classic Shell, The options to change the keys to call the menu

In Classic Shell you can set it to when you click on the icon opens the menu, if you press Win Key opens win8 start menu or if you want it to configure to Middle Click or the way around

is the only thing missing on this, configuration but probably comes in the final

That looks pretty awesome, defiantly the best of both worlds and it integrates so well in to the OS. Now all we need is a nice custom theme and Windows 8 is looking awesome

Nice!!! spread the word among haters... but, if they dont buy 8... how they will use this soft? I still not using RTM because i am not being able to buy yet.. Are most people here using Ilegal copies? Or... maybe here all people have Technet account... Im pretty jealous.
Now... this is a troll

I actually like the previous beta which brought up the new Start UI but in a smaller screen.

The only thing I detest about the stock metro interface is that it takes up the whole screen, which might be great in the future or on a tablet but on my desktop it just feels clumsy. Or at least whilst I'm transitioning from Win7 to Win8 it feels clumsy. I would love to be able to run the metro interface in a 'window', but it seems like it's the other way around in Win8. The desktop rather, is a metro 'app' in the metro interface.

Perhaps in time I will grow to like the full metro interface, but this is a great compromise for now. I can already see the streamlined functionality that metro provides, and now this Start8 program makes that functionality even more usable and accessible in a familiar format.

Plus, accessing the stock metro interface is only a click away. Great software.

Most. Important. Program. EVER.

This should be mandatory installed on all Windows 8 computers.

Silly Microsoft. Don't **** with something that isn't broke!

I like how it took way less time to launch Start8 than any other program he launched from the Start8 menu. He literally, with his eyes closed, typed: [winkey] s t a r [enter] ...in .008 seconds to launch it.

I got used to having no start button. Its different, but my productivity hasn't reduced. I see the apps more as for very routine "quick" tasks when I am in a hurry. I go to desktop to do work and everything works as I need it too.

It is such a sad commentary that third-party vendors have to come up with the functionality and look-and-feel that should have been available in Windows-8 via a simple installation question (and its associated Registry file element setting). Sample question: "Install Metro or Classic interface, default = Metro?"

TsarNikky said,
It is such a sad commentary that third-party vendors have to come up with the functionality and look-and-feel that should have been available in Windows-8 via a simple installation question (and its associated Registry file element setting). Sample question: "Install Metro or Classic interface, default = Metro?"

agreed.

and i guess the future is whatever were told next..
the customer is always right ?
not anymore

After using it for a few hours I do like it. Though I wish I could customize things myself. I would like to have the Start key open the Start Screen, and clicking the button opens the Menu.

Earlier I wrote . . .
Start8 is good, but Classic Shell is better ... way better.
http://classicshell.sf.net/

. . . and got the following replies . . .

gate1975mlm said,

I do not agree with yoiu at all!
Start8 is better!

torrentthief said,

Urghh, classic start menu is horrible, so much aiming and waiting needed
to run an application. Start8 looks nice, i'll wait for reviews of it before
possibly trying win8 again.

CJEric said,

I like Start8 much better.


OK ... in what way exactly is Start8 (an unfinished beta) any better than Classic Shell, now at version 3.6.1 ?
Classic Shell is fully customisable, and offers a choice of three Start menus, the default is the Win9x/2k
style Start menu ... but you can also choose from the XP style and the Vista/7 style Start menus.

Classic Shell has had the option to skin the Start Orb/button for several months, and the option to skin
and customise the Start menu for even longer than that. Meanwhile, Start8 has now only just added
a Windows Vista/7 style Start menu, plus the option skin the Start Orb/button.

So, after being given these facts, do tell ... in what way exactly is Start8 any better than Classic Shell ... ?

You could try using it yourself so you could see why it's better. Classic Shell is nice (and free) but Start8 supports things like the Windows search, jump lists, Metro apps, automatic adaption to the Windows 8 color scheme, can set Windows to boot to the desktop, can be configured to hide the hot spots, etc. etc.

Frogboy said,
You could try using it yourself so you could see why it's better. Classic Shell is nice (and free) but Start8 supports things like the Windows search, jump lists, Metro apps, automatic adaption to the Windows 8 color scheme, can set Windows to boot to the desktop, can be configured to hide the hot spots, etc. etc. Instead of jump lists, it has unified Recent Documents list.

Classic Shell has search too, as well as automatic adaption to Windows color scheme, and was the first tool to boot to the desktop, can also be configured to hide the hotspots. Only difference is it takes advantage of full screen to show All Programs instead of the compact style that requires scrolling.

I am so torn on this...

In one way, I would like people to have the epiphany and see that Windows 8 Start Screen and the Start Menu they are recreating are essentially the same concept and offers the same functionality.

However, then I think they should charge people $20 for product, and chalk it up to 'ignorance' tax. (There are some people that the change is 'taste', but the majority of users are not grasping that the Start Screen is just a bigger Start Menu, and it has a few nice new features for live information.)


Then I think, why not have my development speed a couple of days, and recreate what StarDock is doing, except blend in the Live Tile concepts to the traditional looking Start Menu and the added features, charge 1/2 what StarDock does and sell a few million copies.

I would prefer that users would spend time and get that not much has changed, other than popping up full screen as opposed to popping up over the desktop.

thenetavenger said,
I am so torn on this...

In one way, I would like people to have the epiphany and see that Windows 8 Start Screen and the Start Menu they are recreating are essentially the same concept and offers the same functionality.

However, then I think they should charge people $20 for product, and chalk it up to 'ignorance' tax. (There are some people that the change is 'taste', but the majority of users are not grasping that the Start Screen is just a bigger Start Menu, and it has a few nice new features for live information.)


Then I think, why not have my development speed a couple of days, and recreate what StarDock is doing, except blend in the Live Tile concepts to the traditional looking Start Menu and the added features, charge 1/2 what StarDock does and sell a few million copies.

I would prefer that users would spend time and get that not much has changed, other than popping up full screen as opposed to popping up over the desktop.

Have to agree....take a week...work with it, get to know it, tweak it and make it work for you, I don't miss the button or the menu, have it running on a Desktop, laptop and a tablet...and it's quick, easy, and productive. Loading one my behind the curtain process will only slow down an otherwise very responsive UI.

Just one geeks opinion.

thenetavenger said,
I am so torn on this...

However, then I think they should charge people $20 for product, and chalk it up to 'ignorance' tax.

or a "Productivity improvement tax!"

StanP said,

Have to agree....take a week...work with it, get to know it, tweak it and make it work for you, I don't miss the button or the menu, have it running on a Desktop, laptop and a tablet...and it's quick, easy, and productive. Loading one my behind the curtain process will only slow down an otherwise very responsive UI.

Just one geeks opinion.

The hell? win rtm here since it leaked, this start menu improves productivity like 200%, PERIOD.

thenetavenger said,
I am so torn on this...

In one way, I would like people to have the epiphany and see that Windows 8 Start Screen and the Start Menu they are recreating are essentially the same concept and offers the same functionality.

However, then I think they should charge people $20 for product, and chalk it up to 'ignorance' tax. (There are some people that the change is 'taste', but the majority of users are not grasping that the Start Screen is just a bigger Start Menu, and it has a few nice new features for live information.)


Then I think, why not have my development speed a couple of days, and recreate what StarDock is doing, except blend in the Live Tile concepts to the traditional looking Start Menu and the added features, charge 1/2 what StarDock does and sell a few million copies.

I would prefer that users would spend time and get that not much has changed, other than popping up full screen as opposed to popping up over the desktop.

the ignorance is coming from all the people repeating what you said..

i can see what your saying but your drawing conclusions out of thin air.
where are you getting your facts from ?
I'd like to see the proof that anyone who wants to use a start menu on win 8
never used the start screen giving it a fair chance.
Simple basic logic would tell anyone with even the smallest amount of objectivity that a LOT of users are going to want this start menu program
BECAUSE they tried the win 8 metro crap and didn't like it.

Why do people have to loiter around here desperatly lying through their teeth
to make windows 8 look good ? Are you guys getting paid by Microsoft or something ?
I doubt that..
So then explain to me the chronic disinformation being spread.
And the desperate motivation to fabricate facts from nothing more than opinions.

thenetavenger said,
I am so torn on this...

In one way, I would like people to have the epiphany and see that Windows 8 Start Screen and the Start Menu they are recreating are essentially the same concept and offers the same functionality.

However, then I think they should charge people $20 for product, and chalk it up to 'ignorance' tax. (There are some people that the change is 'taste', but the majority of users are not grasping that the Start Screen is just a bigger Start Menu, and it has a few nice new features for live information.)


Then I think, why not have my development speed a couple of days, and recreate what StarDock is doing, except blend in the Live Tile concepts to the traditional looking Start Menu and the added features, charge 1/2 what StarDock does and sell a few million copies.

I would prefer that users would spend time and get that not much has changed, other than popping up full screen as opposed to popping up over the desktop.


There is a good chance that going forward Start8 will offer control over how metro/modern/whatever we are calling them today applications appear in the start menu. Showing them as standard shortcuts was the obvious first step as it is the representation users are most used to.

Stardock - stop messing around with free software in order to get people looking at your other products.

I purchased Fences Pro back in 2009 at the time it was advertised as having lots of new features (Ones I wanted) coming soon and so I purchased it so I could begin integrating it into a new install I was doing.

3 years later and there have been no new features, you got the money and didn't bother.

Ive got no time for Stardock.

My Goodness, this works and feels like the one of Windows 7, plus disables the stupid big square in the lower left hotspot, gonna use this as default from now on, even programs can be pinned to this REAL start menu. HELL YEAH!!!!

Arceles said,
My Goodness, this works and feels like the one of Windows 7, plus disables the stupid big square in the lower left hotspot, gonna use this as default from now on, even programs can be pinned to this REAL start menu. HELL YEAH!!!!

Outside of the fact that it doesn't take you off the desktop, what's the difference? I see none.

I doubt they will since they create WindowBlinds, but it'd be nice if hooked into the MSStyles for the images, colors, and other properties since they still exist in the msstyles.

Panda X said,
I doubt they will since they create WindowBlinds, but it'd be nice if hooked into the MSStyles for the images, colors, and other properties since they still exist in the msstyles.

Spoke too soon, it does use the msstyles

Very cool, I can once again search everything and launch stuff without going full screen.

Edit: eh spoke too soon. Looks like control panel items are not searchable.

Edited by abysal, Aug 29 2012, 7:02pm :

abysal said,
Very cool, I can once again search everything and launch stuff without going full screen.

Edit: eh spoke too soon. Looks like control panel items are not searchable.

They are if you click the settings button. How search works: Type in one thing. click on the icons on the right to apply that search to what you are clicking on.

WinMunkee said,

They are if you click the settings button. How search works: Type in one thing. click on the icons on the right to apply that search to what you are clicking on.

I'm not following you. What I'm trying to do is search for say "power" to pull up the power options control panel applet (using start8). However, it doesn't look like start8 is searching the control panel directly, and I don't see an option for it.

My work around is to create guid shortcuts (http://www.<<; spam >>/tutorials/110919-clsid-key-list-windows-7-a.html) for each of the control panel items and add them to my users folder index location.

I grabbed a set of pre-made shortcuts here: http://www.<<; spam >>/tutorials/44340-control-panel-all-tasks-list-shortcut.html.

lol this is dumb. How does the metro start screen become better when crammed in a small corner of your screen? It makes live tiles useless. Not only this but it's counterintuitive. The start screen is available on all screens, not just one. How well does this perform on multiple screens?

I think I have tried all the 3rd party Start Menu replacement programs for Windows 8 and this Start8 Beta at least for me anyway is by far the best one yet!

It's the most stable one I have tried without any real annoying bugs. And it duplicates the Windows 7 Start menu almost 100% exactly It even allows you to use your mouse scroll wheel for the All Programs list.

Looks like this is a keeper for me!

Looks nice, and if it was paid I'd probably buy it, but first I'll give Metro a try (I like Metro). I do not like the Windows 7-style Start Menu orb, though. Maybe that can be changed to a more Windows 8 look.

A340600 said,
Looks nice, and if it was paid I'd probably buy it, but first I'll give Metro a try (I like Metro). I do not like the Windows 7-style Start Menu orb, though. Maybe that can be changed to a more Windows 8 look.

It can, you can use your own or a selection. I personally am using the Windows 8 logo.

A340600 said,
Looks nice, and if it was paid I'd probably buy it, but first I'll give Metro a try (I like Metro). I do not like the Windows 7-style Start Menu orb, though. Maybe that can be changed to a more Windows 8 look.

The orb can be changed by the user in Start8. We include a number of alternative looks even including a Windows XP style one!

Neil Banfield said,

The orb can be changed by the user in Start8. We include a number of alternative looks even including a Windows XP style one!

Great! In the YouTube video it showed the Windows 7 Start orb, so I thought that was the one used in the app.

DJGM said,
Start8 is good, but Classic Shell is better ... way better.
http://classicshell.sf.net/

When it comes down to all people are entitled to their opinion, your not included. How does Classic Shell get the vote of being better than what Stardock just came out with? This beta version with the Classic style of Windows 7 is completely the same. The same, not some over half decade style like XP, but the same as in Windows 7.

DJGM said,
Start8 is good, but Classic Shell is better ... way better.
http://classicshell.sf.net/

When it comes down to all people are entitled to their opinion, your not included. How does Classic Shell get the vote of being better than what Stardock just came out with? This beta version with the Classic style of Windows 7 is completely the same. The same, not some over half decade style like XP, but the same as in Windows 7.

DJGM said,
Start8 is good, but Classic Shell is better ... way better.
http://classicshell.sf.net/

When it comes down to all people are entitled to their opinion, your not included. How does Classic Shell get the vote of being better than what Stardock just came out with? This beta version with the Classic style of Windows 7 is completely the same. The same, not some over half decade style like XP, but the same as in Windows 7.

Nice. However, after two years of Launchpad on my iMac I have gotten used to using the Start Screen on Win 8. Really isn't much difference.

Its really starting to shape up into something that may be useful. Samsung should just license this from Stardock instead of using their own crapware.

vcfan said,
stop. living. in. the. past.

UI. is. too. modal.

Whoever thought that having 2 separate instances of a web browser is an idiot with no links between open tabs. Also, two separate control panels, and two separate desktops. It's a mess. It's the little stupid things that annoy me. If I'm in the store, why would I need to hover to the charms bar and click search when I should just be able to start typing? Gestures should be meaningful interactions.

I wouldn't mind so much, but the Win 7 desktop needs to go or the "modern UI" does. Having them side by side can't be improving productivity for anyone.

Go big or go home.

KSib said,

If I'm in the store, why would I need to hover to the charms bar and click search when I should just be able to start typing?

Err, you can!
(and... you're welcome :-P)

vcfan said,
stop. living. in. the. past.

stop telling people how to use THEIR computer !

you may be a know it all but i'm guessing some people disagree !

Enough with the crying..
If people wants choices what business is it of yours ?

KSib said,

UI. is. too. modal.

Whoever thought that having 2 separate instances of a web browser is an idiot with no links between open tabs. Also, two separate control panels, and two separate desktops. It's a mess. It's the little stupid things that annoy me. If I'm in the store, why would I need to hover to the charms bar and click search when I should just be able to start typing? Gestures should be meaningful interactions.

I wouldn't mind so much, but the Win 7 desktop needs to go or the "modern UI" does. Having them side by side can't be improving productivity for anyone.

Go big or go home.

its pretty obvious you don't understand the concept of windows 8.

first of all, the 2 control panels,2 browsers,2 whatever else aren't designed to be used side by side.

the desktop is there for backwards compatibility in the transition period,so people can still run win32 apps that aren't converted to winrt yet. it is not designed to allow win32 apps to cooperate with winrt apps. the desktop is being killed slowly, but not instantly,because it takes time for the software developers to transition their apps over.

vcfan said,

the desktop is there for backwards compatibility in the transition period,so people can still run win32 apps that aren't converted to winrt yet. it is not designed to allow win32 apps to cooperate with winrt apps. the desktop is being killed slowly, but not instantly,because it takes time for the software developers to transition their apps over.

And how the hell do you know that desktop is being killed slowly?

I am fuc**ng curious how do you do 3D Modeling in Metro apps, how do you Program in Metro apps, how do you even design in metro apps? You can't, whoever said desktop is being killed, that [erspon should be killed for too much stupidness.

Not everyone is an 'average' pc user who only opens tube8 and facebook.

Bye.

Stardock needs to make something for Windows 8, as it's not skinnable.

That said, this software is going to only be useful for a short amount of time because once people adapt to Windows 8 (as they will), then nobody is going to bother buying this. I personally won't... I have already adapted and honestly, it's not that bad.

Shyatic said,
Stardock needs to make something for Windows 8, as it's not skinnable.

That said, this software is going to only be useful for a short amount of time because once people adapt to Windows 8 (as they will), then nobody is going to bother buying this. I personally won't... I have already adapted and honestly, it's not that bad.

hillarious .

Sadelwo said,
The Desktop in Windows 8 IS an app.

Actually thats not true. Microsoft may want you to think that, but it isn't the case in reality.

Start8 demonstrates that when you use the mode to have the Metro start screen but smaller. You will notice the Metro start menu is sitting on top of the rest of the desktop.

Neil Banfield said,

Actually thats not true. Microsoft may want you to think that, but it isn't the case in reality.

Start8 demonstrates that when you use the mode to have the Metro start screen but smaller. You will notice the Metro start menu is sitting on top of the rest of the desktop.

It isn't an App, and Metro doesn't sit on top of the desktop either.

As for your evidence of the Start Screen, it truly is a separate full screen pop, even in reference to the Metro UI. Notice you cannot dock the Start Screen in Metro.

Also notice the Metro UI takes precedent, as the Desktop CAN BE DOCKED inside the Metro UI, and adheres to the Metro usability with drag to close, and other gestures. So Metro does not exist ON TOP of the Desktop what so ever.

As for what Microsoft 'wants' people to believe, do you really honestly know? They seem to want the context of Apps first and then desktop Applications, which is why the desktop is presented in the construct of being an App or Window to the desktop UI.

However back to the point, the desktop and Metro are both part of the Shell and with the changes in the composer in Windows 8, everything is managed by the OS and presented through the composer, even full screen games. This is how the desktop can be 'docked' in the Metro construct.

(This is why hitting the Win key will flip you to the start menu and you and flip back to the game instantly, as the rendering and composition of each run concurrently. Which is why the Win8 GPU scores beating Win7 is truly impressive, as Win7 gaming has the luxury of not rendering through the composer in full screen mode, as it is a 10-20% hit in WIn7.)

The WinRT framework renders separately than traditional Win32 Applications. In fact there are several frameworks render paths in Windows NT, and usage of the Win32 was something that was only necessary when the drivers were shoved to kernel mode and the Win32 subsystem took on a bigger role for visual output.

The other frameworks that render independently of Win32 range from DirectX and Direct2D to .NET (WPF), as none of these use Win32 for output (some do in strange cases where frameworks are mixed.)

The video technology in Windows seems to confuse a lot of tech people that try to understand the concepts, which leaves two options, just enjoy what it does, or dig deeper into how it works.

Channel9 is the place to dig deeper, hit the Windows8 tag, also go back to Vista and WDDM/WDM tags as well, when the new graphics technology was introduced that creates a really elegant model from driver all the way to vector/XAML composition.

Interesting. I'll still give the Start screen an extended try, but it's nice to see a fallback option exist.

And before the inevitable mud slinging happens below, remember this is strictly *optional*. That is unless OEMs start signing deals with Stardock much like some have with respect to ObjectDock.

Denis W said,
That is unless OEMs start signing deals with Stardock much like some have with respect to ObjectDock.

Can you elaborate?

I think using something like this is taking a step backwards. If people want it, nice to have it here and hopefully keep those who complain about no start button quiet.

Brando212 said,
there, maybe this will get a lot of people to stop bitching

doubtful

and most bitching is from win 8 fanboys that are made people don't like it..

want me to crunch some numbers ?
i'll prove it i'm not kidding

I am Not PCyr said,

doubtful

and most bitching is from win 8 fanboys that are made people don't like it..

want me to crunch some numbers ?
i'll prove it i'm not kidding

Correction

Most bitching is from kids who have never given win8 a decent go or are just parroting what other forums say..

Toysoldier said,

Correction

Most bitching is from kids who have never given win8 a decent go or are just parroting what other forums say..

and the moon is made of cheese...

can you in any way shape or form back up your claims ?

Kinda funny how people that like the new windows 8 changes
seem to have a paranormal / super natural insight into the minds
of those that do not.

..I'm thinking of a number
guess lol

I am Not PCyr said,

and the moon is made of cheese...

can you in any way shape or form back up your claims ?

Kinda funny how people that like the new windows 8 changes
seem to have a paranormal / super natural insight into the minds
of those that do not.

..I'm thinking of a number
guess lol

I have the lucky position of being in the industry and so yes I have many ways to backup my claims such as customers.

We don't need paranormal / super natural insight into the minds of the haters, you guys are very vocal about your opinions.

Rudy said,
I have a feeling it's going to be very popular.... any word on pricing?

Currently this beta is free, so maybe the final release will be as well?

imforum.eu said,

Currently this beta is free, so maybe the final release will be as well?

Well beta software that isn't free would kind of miss the point. You want to reach the widest audience in order to squish the bugs before final release.

Marcin Kurek said,

Well beta software that isn't free would kind of miss the point. You want to reach the widest audience in order to squish the bugs before final release.

Object dock 2 beta wasn't free...

oliver182 said,

Object dock 2 beta wasn't free...

Betas for established Stardock products weren't free, from what I recall. WindowBlinds, ObjectDock, DesktopX, WindowFX...

That said, Start8 could go the same way as Fences in being free, or there could be a cutdown Start8 with limited features.

Marcin Kurek said,

Well beta software that isn't free would kind of miss the point. You want to reach the widest audience in order to squish the bugs before final release.

Minecraft. Argument void.

Rudy said,
I have a feeling it's going to be very popular.... any word on pricing?

$0/0£/0€/0§


They could charge $5 and earn a lot of money but they're nice guys. If it were Microsoft you know they would charge like $10 for it.

Rudy said,
I have a feeling it's going to be very popular.... any word on pricing?

It's going to be so popular that pc manufacturers will ofter the option for pre-installed Start8 with Windows 8.

Ah!

I think this will satisfy all the people that don't like the start screen. Good for them

Marcin Kurek said,
Ah!

I think this will satisfy all the people that don't like the start screen. Good for them

Agreed. I for one love the start screen and don't even want a start menu but it should take care of the people who miss the menu.

Marcin Kurek said,
Ah!

I think this will satisfy all the people that don't like the start screen. Good for them

Exactly. I won't be using it myself but it looks like a decent solution for those unhappy with the changes made in Windows 8.

When people find out how this will work with win 8, they'll be so annoyed to know that every time they hit the windows key thinking the Start8 menu to appear but instead get the Metro Start screen.

Then they'll have to revert to actually click on the start8 button, but only to find out every time they move their mouse to the lower left corner, they'll accidentally trigger the start menu hot corner covering the Start8 menu. (You can actually see this in the video)

MS is trolling so hard right now.

LAMj said,
When people find out how this will work with win 8, they'll be so annoyed to know that every time they hit the windows key thinking the Start8 menu to appear but instead get the Metro Start screen.

Then they'll have to revert to actually click on the start8 button, but only to find out every time they move their mouse to the lower left corner, they'll accidentally trigger the start menu hot corner covering the Start8 menu. (You can actually see this in the video)

MS is trolling so hard right now.


Actually Brad was using an older build in the video.

The lower left hot corner is disabled by default when Start8 is running so no danger of that causing any problems and if you hit the windows key while in a metro app you get the Start8 menu not the Metro start screen.

Perhaps you should try it out.

LAMj said,
When people find out how this will work with win 8, they'll be so annoyed to know that every time they hit the windows key thinking the Start8 menu to appear but instead get the Metro Start screen.

Then they'll have to revert to actually click on the start8 button, but only to find out every time they move their mouse to the lower left corner, they'll accidentally trigger the start menu hot corner covering the Start8 menu. (You can actually see this in the video)

MS is trolling so hard right now.


LAMj said,
When people find out how this will work with win 8, they'll be so annoyed to know that every time they hit the windows key thinking the Start8 menu to appear but instead get the Metro Start screen.

Then they'll have to revert to actually click on the start8 button, but only to find out every time they move their mouse to the lower left corner, they'll accidentally trigger the start menu hot corner covering the Start8 menu. (You can actually see this in the video)

MS is trolling so hard right now.


I'm sorry, but I'm not sure you know what your talking about. Currently in this beta build; pressing the windows key or clicking the start orb only brings up the Start Menu for Start8 and not the Windows UI interface. Did you at least try the program instead of watching the video?! They have an option to disable the hot corners. [snipped]

Edited by Denis W., Aug 29 2012, 6:25pm :

Flippinwindows said,

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure you know what your talking about. Currently in this beta build; pressing the windows key or clicking the start orb only brings up the Start Menu for Start8 and not the Windows UI interface. Did you at least try the program instead of watching the video?! They have an option to disable the hot corners. [snipped]

Maybe they should update the video so that people don't come to that conclusion and skip over their program.

Flippinwindows said,

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure you know what your talking about. Currently in this beta build; pressing the windows key or clicking the start orb only brings up the Start Menu for Start8 and not the Windows UI interface. Did you at least try the program instead of watching the video?! They have an option to disable the hot corners. [snipped]

Nice info, pal... thanks. I have only one last question I'd like to know... The normal form, not the metro, can it has a more similar appearance with the other GUI? I mean, why it looks like Win7's menu with glitchy rounded corners, and not something like this for consistency http://i.minus.com/jkuq4qwsXdMmp.png

This is my Windows 7 with an almost perfectly ported Win8 theme.

PC EliTiST said,

Nice info, pal... thanks. I have only one last question I'd like to know... The normal form, not the metro, can it has a more similar appearance with the other GUI? I mean, why it looks like Win7's menu with glitchy rounded corners, and not something like this for consistency http://i.minus.com/jkuq4qwsXdMmp.png

This is my Windows 7 with an almost perfectly ported Win8 theme.

This is a beta. That is all I need to mention.