New Windows 8/RT device Gmail access via Exchange ActiveSync ending today

While Google is now extending Exchange ActiveSync support to sync Gmail email, calendar and contacts on Windows Phone devices until July 31st, the same extension will not be given to new Windows 8 and Windows RT devices, including the Surface RT tablet from Microsoft.

In a post on the official Windows blog, Microsoft confirmed that EAS support will end after today for Windows 8 and RT owners that use the Email, Calendar and People apps to sync up to Gmail. Microsoft added that connections that have already been made with EAS will continue to work past today.

If you decide to wait until after today to connect your Windows 8 or RT PC to Gmail via these apps, Microsoft does have a support page that offers a workaround that will allow users to connect their Mail and People apps to Gmail's mail and contacts via adding them to their Microsoft account. Unfortunately, that method cannot be use for the Calendar app; new connections via Windows 8 to Gmail's calendar simply won't work at all after today.

Microsoft's blog post also makes a pitch for Windows 8 and RT users to use Outlook.com as a way to access their various email accounts after today.

Source: Windows blog | Image via Microsoft

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Easy work around...

Setup/Goto your Hotmail/Outlook account, and tell it to retrieve your Google email to a Folder.

Then only use the Hotmail/Outlook/MS Account to access your email, and slowly stop using the GMail account forever.

Fixed.

I thought they were ending activesync support for all new mobile device. This article and the last one make is sound like they are only targeting Windows based devices.

This might not have been a problem if Microsoft allowed Windows Phone users to use Google as a default search choice... They all just fight turf wars and we're the collateral damage.

LogicalApex said,
This might not have been a problem if Microsoft allowed Windows Phone users to use Google as a default search choice... They all just fight turf wars and we're the collateral damage.

The option to use google is right there in the Internet Explorer settings of windows phone. This then uses google to do searches in IE. Now the rest of the OS is dependent on bing. Does google allow you to set bing/yahoo or any other search as the default search or even in the browser within android? Why exactly should MS do something different?

LogicalApex said,
This might not have been a problem if Microsoft allowed Windows Phone users to use Google as a default search choice... They all just fight turf wars and we're the collateral damage.

Why should they? does Google allow you to use bing services in Google Now? (never used it, so feel free to correct me)

pgxl said,

The option to use google is right there in the Internet Explorer settings of windows phone. This then uses google to do searches in IE. Now the rest of the OS is dependent on bing. Does google allow you to set bing/yahoo or any other search as the default search or even in the browser within android? Why exactly should MS do something different?

Is this new on Windows Phone 8? As for Windows Phone 7 you couldn't change the default search provider in IE unless you were on a carrier that didn't do Bing as a default search. The only Windows Phone I ever saw that allowed you to change its default search in IE was the Dell Venue Pro.

So unless this is a universal option in WP8 (which I won't be upgrading to) then my statement still holds.

BajiRav said,

Why should they? does Google allow you to use bing services in Google Now? (never used it, so feel free to correct me)

I'm not talking about Google Now... I'm talking about the default search in the browser. On Android I can choose Bing for that...

LogicalApex said,
This might not have been a problem if Microsoft allowed Windows Phone users to use Google as a default search choice... They all just fight turf wars and we're the collateral damage.

This generic argument is lazy and specious at best.

On WP7/WP8 if you want Google to be your default search, Pin Google as a main tile at the top of your screen. Then instead of hitting the freaking search button, you hit Home and Tap Google.

I do this with Bing itself, as I prefer the website than the built in Bing Search App for a lot of things.

Google could care less about WP7/8, and they would want to get their hooks into the user's information and tracking them on the maps and Microsoft would NOT have allowed this. Ask Apple how happy they were with Google's tracking for the services Apple wanted to use Google for, not even including the ones Google was using nefarious actions to track users.
(Go look up the lawsuits in various countries with Google's type of collection of data and tracking is ILLEGAL, and Apple got sucked into lawsuits with Google because of the Google crap on the iPhone.)

thenetavenger said,

This generic argument is lazy and specious at best.

On WP7/WP8 if you want Google to be your default search, Pin Google as a main tile at the top of your screen. Then instead of hitting the freaking search button, you hit Home and Tap Google.

I do this with Bing itself, as I prefer the website than the built in Bing Search App for a lot of things.

Google could care less about WP7/8, and they would want to get their hooks into the user's information and tracking them on the maps and Microsoft would NOT have allowed this. Ask Apple how happy they were with Google's tracking for the services Apple wanted to use Google for, not even including the ones Google was using nefarious actions to track users.
(Go look up the lawsuits in various countries with Google's type of collection of data and tracking is ILLEGAL, and Apple got sucked into lawsuits with Google because of the Google crap on the iPhone.)

Not really.

They all want the same data for the same reasons. Microsoft similarly wants your GPS data so they can sell it and is the reason they locked Google out of there. The story is the same for Google. As I said, they are playing turf wars for money and one upping each other. We're caught in the middle. We shouldn't be forced to use Bing Maps because we purchased a Windows Phone or Google Maps if we purchased Android.

The hackish work around to integrate Google into Windows Phone is pathetic, seriously. Windows Phone was better before Mango when they didn't force web searches into the Bing app from IE (on the ones you could change the default search provider like the DVP). There is no reason why you shouldn't be able to just set a default web search provider.

But whatever, people today argue that the walling off of our computing world as somehow a good thing and "not that bad." I have to remember that we now live in an age where the consumers live to serve the corporations and not the other way around.

So annoying!
While I'm already setup for access on my Lumia 920, Surface RT and Windows 8 laptop ,it is a pain if I want to setup another device.

Some of you might call it a knee-jerk reaction and even childish, but this is exactly the kind of thing that causes customers to boycott companies and move away.

I will be migrating to outlook.com from my gmail simply because of this.
I need my services fully available and this is not acceptable to me, the consumer.

It's going to be a real pain getting my liveID (Xbox/Windows) migrated though...not sure how to go about it yet

Create an alias in Outlook.com for whatever you're using. It's not a true migration, but would let people send to you with an Outlook.com address instead of a gmail address.

LLTC said,
So annoying!
While I'm already setup for access on my Lumia 920, Surface RT and Windows 8 laptop ,it is a pain if I want to setup another device.

Some of you might call it a knee-jerk reaction and even childish, but this is exactly the kind of thing that causes customers to boycott companies and move away.

I will be migrating to outlook.com from my gmail simply because of this.
I need my services fully available and this is not acceptable to me, the consumer.

It's going to be a real pain getting my liveID (Xbox/Windows) migrated though...not sure how to go about it yet


http://support.xbox.com/en-US/...9355da2477e81d4047f6f3a3f9d


This shows you how to change the Microsoft account associated with your xbox live account.

One thing - if you change the Microsoft account then on your Windows Phone you will need to resetup your account there to get game achievements to sync over too. That basically means resetting the phone - all apps, etc will need to be reinstalled.

Thanks guys.
Both of these are what I thought of doing, but have put off due to the re-setup of phone.

I already have alias for outlook.com but it's the full migration that is annoying...but it is what it is.

LLTC said,
Thanks guys.
Both of these are what I thought of doing, but have put off due to the re-setup of phone.

I already have alias for outlook.com but it's the full migration that is annoying...but it is what it is.

The trick is to pick one and keep it as your primary MS Account forever.

If you can pick your phone's account as your primary, as you can migrate everything else easily. Move your Xbox, etc to the MS Account you are using on your phone.

I also recommend for people to use that MS Account as your main 'hub' to the world. Use it for your calendar, contacts, etc. For all your other email accounts either have the Microsoft Account fetch the email from your other services into a dedicated folder or forward you email from the other servers to your main MS Account email address and setup a rule to put them in their own folder.

Since the MS Account can also link to Facebook and other services.

This way you can literally use one login for 99% of the things you do in the world, and combine all your contacts and email accounts into one location.

This makes WP and Windows 8 and Xbox easy as everything is there from one account, and always is up to date and even if you are away from your PC, using outlook.com from anyone's PC gives you access to all your email, without having to sign into several email services on someone else's computer - just always make sure you log off.


You can still send email using the other email addresses as well, it is just a setup in to approve them in the Mail settings of your Microsoft Account.

I have a multitude of email addresses and pull them all into my main MS Account, and also store all my 'old' email on my MS Account (Which you can easily do with a Client like Outlook.)

So I also use it as my archive, and I have email going back to the early 90s in my MS Account, and since I allow WP to read ALL my email, I can use my phone while talking to someone to look up conversations with them from 10-15 years ago. (And with WP, having 100,000 emails doesn't even slow it down a bit, the search sometimes takes longer the farther back it has to go.)

Also with everything based out of your main MS Account, when email arrives or is changed on any PC or your phone, all the other automatically update at the same time because it does use EAS technology. So when reading or deleting email on my PC my phone beeps to let me know my email has changed virtually the same second.


Even if people don't like Hotmail/Outlook.com, using a MS Account to aggregate all your other email and information into that one location is rather powerful.

(Kind of over labored the point, but good luck on consolidating your accounts.)

LLTC said,
Some of you might call it a knee-jerk reaction and even childish, but this is exactly the kind of thing that causes customers to boycott companies and move away.

Well, if Microsoft had used open standards then you wouldn't have had this problem. Just saying.

Personally I believe the customers will win in the long run if companies use open standards. That will make it less of a pain to switch platform.

Why Booyah?

Granted, from Google's point of view, the support for this EAS is just an added cost that they can get rid of without many consequences. But from the user's point of view, it's a big nuisance.

I still don't understand why Microsoft didn't just implement the standard protocols in Mail and Calendar.

Oh, in-house. That's why.

P.S.: Microsoft, PLEASE allow plaintext e-mails in Windows 8's mail app!

Bogdan Calapod said,
Why Booyah?

Granted, from Google's point of view, the support for this EAS is just an added cost that they can get rid of without many consequences. But from the user's point of view, it's a big nuisance.

I still don't understand why Microsoft didn't just implement the standard protocols in Mail and Calendar.

Oh, in-house. That's why.

P.S.: Microsoft, PLEASE allow plaintext e-mails in Windows 8's mail app!


If Google is licensing EAS for their paid service, there will not be any added cost for them. There is always flat licensing fees for such a large scale user base.
This is purely Google pushing EAS as a value-add for their paid service with customary lip-service to open standards to keep the fanboys happy.

Bogdan Calapod said,
I still don't understand why Microsoft didn't just implement the standard protocols in Mail and Calendar.

There is no standard in existence as good as EAS for email syncing. IMAP sucks.