New Windows Phone 7 images, videos and impressions

With Microsoft set to announce when Windows Phone 7 will be available on Monday, it seems that the company is no longer able to keep the leaks under control.

Yesterday official press renders of the LG E900, expected to be called the Optimus 7, appeared on the internet. The device is thought to have a 1GHz processor, 256MB RAM, a 3.8” screen and 16GB internal storage. It is understood that this device will be on sale in Europe.

Following the image leak, several videos of the Samsung i8700 also appeared on the Internet, this device is thought to be named the Omnia 7 at launch. Like the LG E900, this device is thought to have a 1GHz processor, 256MB RAM, but its screen size is unknown and its likely to only have 8GB of storage.

During this video the “Samsung Hub” is demoed which shows the weather and stocks. There have been videos of the HTC Hubs on its own devices so it would appear that device makers will differentiate their devices by adding these hubs and additional features with LG working on adding DLNA support for its devices.

In other Windows Phone 7 related news the new mobile OS has been receiving praise from unexpected people. John Gruber of Daring Fireball, who has a strong preference to Apple and its products, gave some positive feedback about a short hands on he had with a Windows Phone 7 device. Gruber has been quoted as saying that it was “really nice” and that his first impressions were “very, very favorable”. Interestingly, when asked if he had to choose between Android and Windows Phone 7 as a mobile for a month he said he would choose Microsoft’s offering over Google's.

Noah Kravitz, editor-in-chief of phonedog.com who has done in depth reviews of many phones and operating system also seems impressed with Windows Phone 7 after spending some time with a developer unit. He even thought the UI is more modern than that of the iPhone and went as far as to say “Windows Phone 7 UI makes iPhone look like a dinosaur”.

It is thought that on Monday Microsoft will announce that Windows Phone 7 will be available. Neowin understands devices will be released in Europe, Asia and Australia/New Zealand on October 21st followed by a November 8th release for those in the US.

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This really looks great. I can't wait for a WP7 device. I hope that Microsoft gets CDMA support in as soon as possible, as I'm going to have to wait for Verizon to get the phone (And I'm sure a lot of other people will as well).

david said,
Will WP7 have a Webkit browser of some sort? Lack of this feature will turn down a sale for me...

The browser in WP7 is very good from what I've seen and played with.

This is the problem with allowing other companies to use your operating system on their own hardware, for resale. Often, these companies contaminate the beautiful OS with their own crap. It happens with Windows 7 on many desktops and laptops and is clearly going to happen with Windows Phone 7.

I really hope we can remove these hubs and all the other crap the companies install onto the phone. If the hubs actually followed UI guidelines, I wouldn't mind, but the HTC hub doesn't seem to follow the Metro UI language much.

Calum said,
This is the problem with allowing other companies to use your operating system on their own hardware, for resale. Often, these companies contaminate the beautiful OS with their own crap. It happens with Windows 7 on many desktops and laptops and is clearly going to happen with Windows Phone 7.

I really hope we can remove these hubs and all the other crap the companies install onto the phone. If the hubs actually followed UI guidelines, I wouldn't mind, but the HTC hub doesn't seem to follow the Metro UI language much.

At the very least you can remove the craptastic HTC hub from the Start screen and use the default Metro UI and never have to use it. That is my plan if I am forced to buy an HTC device on T-Mobile, hopefully the Dell Lightning comes to the rescue!

Calum said,
This is the problem with allowing other companies to use your operating system on their own hardware, for resale. Often, these companies contaminate the beautiful OS with their own crap. It happens with Windows 7 on many desktops and laptops and is clearly going to happen with Windows Phone 7.

I really hope we can remove these hubs and all the other crap the companies install onto the phone. If the hubs actually followed UI guidelines, I wouldn't mind, but the HTC hub doesn't seem to follow the Metro UI language much.

That is my concern as well. Windows 7 runs great on great hardware... problem is, the good hardware comes at a price. Meanwhile the consumer buys the cheapest hardware they can with Windows 7 and when it runs like crap and is unstable people blame the Windows brand name (not the E-Machine or whatever). We will most likely see this with WP7...

Shadrack said,

That is my concern as well. Windows 7 runs great on great hardware... problem is, the good hardware comes at a price. Meanwhile the consumer buys the cheapest hardware they can with Windows 7 and when it runs like crap and is unstable people blame the Windows brand name (not the E-Machine or whatever). We will most likely see this with WP7...

We won't because there are hard and software restrictions...

Calum said,
This is the problem with allowing other companies to use your operating system on their own hardware, for resale. Often, these companies contaminate the beautiful OS with their own crap. It happens with Windows 7 on many desktops and laptops and is clearly going to happen with Windows Phone 7.

I really hope we can remove these hubs and all the other crap the companies install onto the phone. If the hubs actually followed UI guidelines, I wouldn't mind, but the HTC hub doesn't seem to follow the Metro UI language much.

It's not going to happen on phones too. If you read the device manufacturing guidelines, you will see that OEMs are only allowed to install x MB of third party **** (x=i don't remember). How much crap can they put into that space?

Also, hardware manufacturers cannot change the base UI layer of the phone. They have to create their own apps/hubs for this purpose. the start page can be customized to add and remove Hubs and apps.

Windows phone 7 has by far the best licensing agreement in terms of offering consistent experience across device manufacturers and networks.
How much damage can they

efjay said,

At the very least you can remove the craptastic HTC hub from the Start screen and use the default Metro UI and never have to use it. That is my plan if I am forced to buy an HTC device on T-Mobile, hopefully the Dell Lightning comes to the rescue!

Dell? Not if you want a phone that works for more than a week... They're going downhill fast unfortunately. After this last laptop I would never buy another Dell product.

Calum said,
This is the problem with allowing other companies to use your operating system on their own hardware, for resale. Often, these companies contaminate the beautiful OS with their own crap. It happens with Windows 7 on many desktops and laptops and is clearly going to happen with Windows Phone 7.

I really hope we can remove these hubs and all the other crap the companies install onto the phone. If the hubs actually followed UI guidelines, I wouldn't mind, but the HTC hub doesn't seem to follow the Metro UI language much.

I agree. I just don't understand why HTC wouldn't follow Metro... It makes no sense, and the design they came up with is horrendous. I would bury it as far away from sight as I could if I got an HTC device.

wrack said,
All this and NO Outlook integration. I am very disappointed.

It supports Outlook fine. Have you not seen the videos?

wrack said,
All this and NO Outlook integration. I am very disappointed.

You can use Outlook to manage your data using the Hotmail connector so you get Outlook connectivity but without the syncing issues possbile with WMDC or Activesync.

The Samsung Omnia 7 was the device I had a hands on a few weeks back and it was really impressive, quite light, smooth and fast and the buttons had a slight vibrate feedback when touched. I really hope that Samsung/HTC/Asus etc really start to pack in features, Id really like to see some devices with large amounts of flash, how about a 128GB device for instance or even a 64GB device. Id also like to see MS get the zunepass offering at parity with the US version, I was the 10 included tracks a month if Im going to subscribe otherwise I wouldnt bother. Really looking forward to launch and to see the apps/marketing that MS will be launching with.

GP101 said,
The Samsung Omnia 7 was the device I had a hands on a few weeks back and it was really impressive, quite light, smooth and fast and the buttons had a slight vibrate feedback when touched. I really hope that Samsung/HTC/Asus etc really start to pack in features, Id really like to see some devices with large amounts of flash, how about a 128GB device for instance or even a 64GB device. Id also like to see MS get the zunepass offering at parity with the US version, I was the 10 included tracks a month if Im going to subscribe otherwise I wouldnt bother. Really looking forward to launch and to see the apps/marketing that MS will be launching with.

Yeah, I'm with you. I don't understand why it's so hard to find a device with more space... At my WP7 launch event though it was announced that WP7 now has support for external cards, so that's definitely a plus.

Looks very nice and polished. One big thing I don't like is how everything you 'click' is animated. It slows down otherwise quick processes.

KirbzStar said,
Looks very nice and polished. One big thing I don't like is how everything you 'click' is animated. It slows down otherwise quick processes.

I don't think any of the animation is there just for the sake of animation. It's just there to keep you occupied in the split second that it takes each screen to load. It's not slowing anything down.

jakem1 said,

I don't think any of the animation is there just for the sake of animation. It's just there to keep you occupied in the split second that it takes each screen to load. It's not slowing anything down.

Nah, I'm sure that without the animations, the pages would be loaded and interactive before it would be with animations.

That said, these animations are very quick and barely slows the user down. As for slowing the device's performance? Possibly, since they are "fancy" animations. WP7 is designed and required to have the hardware to handle it though.

andrewbares said,
Nah, I'm sure that without the animations, the pages would be loaded and interactive before it would be with animations.

That said, these animations are very quick and barely slows the user down. As for slowing the device's performance? Possibly, since they are "fancy" animations. WP7 is designed and required to have the hardware to handle it though.

the UI is silverlight. It doesn't really matter what you DO with your transitions, there is no performance hit. When building apps that use image resources, using the wrong type of image can cause a bigger performance hit than the transitions ever could.

jakem1 said,

I don't think any of the animation is there just for the sake of animation. It's just there to keep you occupied in the split second that it takes each screen to load. It's not slowing anything down.

Exactly. And it's very fluid. It's not these long unnecessary animations. It's pretty lightweight...

nice UI, i love the big in your face text, it's really fitting with today. however there seems to be way too much animation going on and the new LG phone is way too square

thats a pretty ugly phone and the UI looks messy especially with the hanging text on the title.
ill be waiting for the reviews to see the more important stuff like battery life, software support etc.

kaffra said,
thats a pretty ugly phone and the UI looks messy especially with the hanging text on the title.
ill be waiting for the reviews to see the more important stuff like battery life, software support etc.

So far the reviews have been VERY favorable.

Lookin good....still think I'd prefer to go Android. I have the luxury of picking a new phone in the new year so couldn't be better timing

timmmay said,
Lookin good....still think I'd prefer to go Android. I have the luxury of picking a new phone in the new year so couldn't be better timing

I could haved picked up a new phone since the end of summer, so the wait is killing me. I still had a pantech duo which was a really good phone for me, but I dropped it and now the speaker for the ear doesn't work. I was planning on using that until WP7 came out... Im back to an old Motorola flip phone which feels like I'm taking a step back in time... Hurry up WP7!!

bguy_1986 said,

I could haved picked up a new phone since the end of summer, so the wait is killing me. I still had a pantech duo which was a really good phone for me, but I dropped it and now the speaker for the ear doesn't work. I was planning on using that until WP7 came out... Im back to an old Motorola flip phone which feels like I'm taking a step back in time... Hurry up WP7!!

Yep, I'm with you too. I've been waiting for a while here and now they announce that it won't be hitting Verizon until the first half of next year? This is killing me... I hope they get CDMA support in ASAP...

I've played with Windows Phone 7 on a Samsung prototype, and I can tell you that it's snappy and feels just perfect. The owner of the phone wasn't too impressed with the battery life though but then it was a prototype.

sanke1 said,
Better than iOS4.... But is it mature enough? Flash, Copy-paste, tethering features in there ?

Flash has always been something that's up to Adobe to do, not MS. So if it takes long to get on WP7 you know who to blame. The rest should make it in the first big update for the OS I'd bet.

sanke1 said,
Better than iOS4.... But is it mature enough? Flash, Copy-paste, tethering features in there ?

I have a sneaking suspicion that Flash support will be announced next Monday but don't quote me on that.

GP007 said,

Flash has always been something that's up to Adobe to do, not MS. So if it takes long to get on WP7 you know who to blame. The rest should make it in the first big update for the OS I'd bet.

I agree. Copy and Paste is definitely coming. Tethering is already in there (If your carrier supports it). And at my Windows Phone 7 event they said that multi-tasking for 3rd party apps has been in nightlies, so that's definitely coming too. And the fact that they are already playing around with it like that makes me think it's coming sooner than later.

ahhell said,
I shouldn't have put off buying MS stock.

*cry*

Well I read yesterday that it's trading extremely low so I'm sure you'll still get a good price.

jakem1 said,

Well I read yesterday that it's trading extremely low so I'm sure you'll still get a good price.

Yeah, the government is doing their best to keep the stock market as low as they can... LOL

All I can say is that I can't wait any longer..... the wait it killing me! Never would have considered a phone like this until now. Roll on 21st October.

GP007 said,
I just hope for something with 16GB or more storage. I'll jump all over a 32GB device at this point.
I guess we will find out soon! It's all up to the phone manufacturers at this point!

Still not sure on that UI, but boxes? But then I am used to looking at Sony Ericssons UI for the past 24 months Or rather 48 as I had a SE before that and one before that

Amazing, a more recent mobile phone OS design feels more modern!

Should be interesting to see how this unfolds, with more end-users getting to own and play with them.

"looks at his iPhone 4, sniffles, sheds a little tear and thinks..............WHY DIDN'T I WAIT"

The Halo said,
"looks at his iPhone 4, sniffles, sheds a little tear and thinks..............WHY DIDN'T I WAIT"

WP7 on iPhone hardware. That's all I ask.

John. said,

WP7 on iPhone hardware. That's all I ask.

Because you don;t want WP7 to be able to make or receive calls?

Seriously though, I dont see what's so good about the iPhone 4's hardware. WIth the exception of a high res screen (which is too small anyway IMO) it's pretty much the same as every other phone.

jakem1 said,

Because you don;t want WP7 to be able to make or receive calls?

Seriously though, I dont see what's so good about the iPhone 4's hardware. WIth the exception of a high res screen (which is too small anyway IMO) it's pretty much the same as every other phone.

The retina display does indeed look nice, I think they should make it a slightly bigger screen to compete with phones like the Droid X but then make the display much more high resolution so you get the best of both worlds.

If you've ever used the iPhone 4, you would know the fonts are really crisp and clear.

Electric Jolt said,

The retina display does indeed look nice, I think they should make it a slightly bigger screen to compete with phones like the Droid X but then make the display much more high resolution so you get the best of both worlds.

If you've ever used the iPhone 4, you would know the fonts are really crisp and clear.

This. What the display looks like is a really big deal...I mean, that is a major part of a phone these days. You consume information off the screen and interact with it.

Electric Jolt said,
The retina display does indeed look nice....

If you've ever used the iPhone 4, you would know the fonts are really crisp and clear.

Yes, but SuperAMOLED FTW!!! I'll sacrifice pixel density for higher contrast; you know, something I can read in direct light.

Shadrack said,

This. What the display looks like is a really big deal...I mean, that is a major part of a phone these days. You consume information off the screen and interact with it.

I'm more sold by the MS message that a phone should be more about getting you to your information as efficiently as possible, without requiring you to stare at the screen for so long the finer details become apparent.

If you can get to what you want quickly and intuitively, with information constantly in motion, your eyes won't even have time to register pixel density. By making uber-fine font resolution a priority, Apple has made it clear that they want you looking at your iPhone for as long as possible.

Come back to the real world, guys. It's always around you, and the resolution is fantastic.

John. said,

WP7 on iPhone hardware. That's all I ask.

Why..? With WP7 manufacturers can choose their own hardware combination. Unlike the iPhone, where it is the EXACT same thing. Which has pros and cons.

The pros of only one device is that if the application works on yours, it will look and act identically, but you have to wait for the device manufacturer (Apple) to make a new and better one.

As for the cons of one device, there isn't much choice (which is a pro and a con in and of itself ), and as I said, you have to wait for a new device with better stuff to come out, which could take awhile.

Shadrack said,

This. What the display looks like is a really big deal...I mean, that is a major part of a phone these days. You consume information off the screen and interact with it.

Funny how screen resolution wasn't such an issue before Apple came out with their "RETINA DISPLAY!!!"

“Windows Phone 7 UI makes iPhone look like a dinosaur” wow, praise indeed!

come on peeps, prices prices prices

kimatg said,
omg, that optimus 7 sure looks sexaaaay!

Does anyone remember who that guy was that slammed WP7 really hard a few months ago? I can't remember who he was but im wondering if he has had any new comments on the OS since then.

NPGMBR said,

Does anyone remember who that guy was that slammed WP7 really hard a few months ago? I can't remember who he was but im wondering if he has had any new comments on the OS since then.

Nevermind.....I found out!

NPGMBR said,

Galen Gruman of InfoWorld. He wrote a really nasty review of WP7 back in June or July. You can find it here if you have not already read it: http://www.infoworld.com/d/mob...-7-dont-bother-disaster-211

InfoWorld is garbage. Just went to their site and saw an anti-Microsoft headline right away "Microsoft is becoming your grandma's computer company". A stupid article by Paul Krill based on observations at a party at his sister's place in PA, and noticed a lot of Apple products people had, as well as taking notice of a similar scene at LAX. Basically, young people want Apple stuff, Microsoft is dead BS. I couldn't even register to post a comment, due to some bug.