Nokia defends smartphone position as N9 leaks

The leak has not been confirmed but it appears the Nokia N9 has been revealed in a video ad promoting the device as seen below. GSMArena says the phone seen in the video is a suitable successor to the N8 with a full QWERTY keyboard and full-touch UI. 

There are also suspicions the device will be Nokia's first to run the MeeGo operating system as the uploaded video has been tagged with it. Once again though, nothing is confirmed outside the video. 

The potential leak comes on the same day Nokia's anticipated N8 smartphone was shown at its annual Nokia Connection event in Singapore. The company defended its number one position in the smartphone market despite renewed pressures from Apple's iPhone after last weeks iPhone 4 announcement

Speaking at the event Nokia's senior vice president for smartphones Jo Harlow said Nokia's leadership had been questioned in recent months.

"However, it is often overlooked that we continue to have the largest market share in mobile devices and the largest share in smartphones, which is the fastest growing segment."

April saw Nokia announce it hoped to boost its smartphone market share to 41% from an estimated 40% between October and December last year. 21.5 million of the 52.6 million smartphones sold in the first quarter this year were sold by Nokia helping the company's net profits to reach €349 million compared to €122 million from the same period a year ago.

Nokia is yet to comment on the potential N9 leak in the build up to the release of the latest Symbian run phone, the N8. 

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ho hum. after the iphone 4 leak, this looks like nokia is following the trail of apple's smelly stinky fart.

nothing to see folks. move along. just a pathetic 800lbs gorilla drawing its last breath.

MeeGo looks like a nice mobileOS and the interoperability between netbooks and mobile is great. Still I like Symbian.

hotdog963al said,
A slide-out keyboard on a mobile phone? uhh... no thanks. You'd look like a fool with that in public!

Yeah but I would type more sense then some moron hitting a screen....

All the people in the US that think Nokia are dead need to realise that their country is a mess as far as mobile networks are concerned. You have BOTH CDMA and GSM standards competing. The US is NOT typical of the rest of the world, however much you like to think it is.

In Europe (and most other countries) where SIM free phones roam wild on the universal GSM networks Nokia is a much, much, much bigger player.

Want to talk about laughable? Laughable was Apple releasing a non-3G "smart"phone in the UK back in 2007 (we had fairly large 3G coverage even then). Then charging £280 for the phone WITH an 18 month contract (if you did't know, most phones here came totally free on moderately priced contracts. And most still do, bar the iPhone.) as well. Needless to say you had to be a total idiot to buy one.

Fillado said,
All the people in the US that think Nokia are dead need to realise that their country is a mess as far as mobile networks are concerned. You have BOTH CDMA and GSM standards competing. The US is NOT typical of the rest of the world, however much you like to think it is.

In Europe (and most other countries) where SIM free phones roam wild on the universal GSM networks Nokia is a much, much, much bigger player.

Want to talk about laughable? Laughable was Apple releasing a non-3G "smart"phone in the UK back in 2007 (we had fairly large 3G coverage even then). Then charging £280 for the phone WITH an 18 month contract (if you did't know, most phones here came totally free on moderately priced contracts. And most still do, bar the iPhone.) as well. Needless to say you had to be a total idiot to buy one.

Well Nokai is out of Norway afaik. US still doesn't fully accept GSM which is one of the main problems in the US/Canada and I think Mexico while the rest of the world afaik supports GSM fully. The US always has to be different from every other country.

ZekeComa said,

Well Nokai is out of Norway afaik. US still doesn't fully accept GSM which is one of the main problems in the US/Canada and I think Mexico while the rest of the world afaik supports GSM fully. The US always has to be different from every other country.

Part of the reason for that is the fact that the US is far larger than any single country in Europe, Africa, Asia (other than China and Russia) or South America (Brazil is pretty close, but it's mostly jungle). Considering the low population density, it's much harder for a single carrier to cover a large area, and like it or not, GSM isn't really great for longer ranges (as are typical here). If the US was totally GSM, there would have to be far more towers than there are now. Also, for a long time, the FCC has actually encouraged companies to create different network standards. It seems stupid now, but at the time, part of the reason was to create less interference with other parts of the wireless specturm.

ZekeComa said,

Well Nokai is out of Norway afaik. US still doesn't fully accept GSM which is one of the main problems in the US/Canada and I think Mexico while the rest of the world afaik supports GSM fully. The US always has to be different from every other country.

Hey! in Mexico we have GMS, 95% of the mobile phones are in GSM, there is only two providers that don't use GSM, IusaCell (CDMA) and Nextel (which uses a propietary network). And like in the rest of the world, most of the phones are sold without a contract, and with a contract the iPhone is free, there are a lot of options. And I'm with nokia.

the iPhone 4 (recently announced) has tech that Nokia used in their phones in 2007, and they dare to compare. The problem is that the USA is ignorant of the rest of the world, if Nokia doesn't sell in the USA, then is a failure for them.

hope nokia end up crushing that shoddy iphone4g, with its ability to make video calls to only other iphone4gs over wifi. yeah thats what people want a handicaped mobilephone.

From a country that considers price more than anything else N9 will win in our market share and iPhone will still stay at the bottom. But i really think iPhone is good except from FLASH SUPPORT?

liju said,
Why would Nokia need to adopt Android when they have 2 superior OSes.
If they were superior than why don't we hear about it. i haven't used a nokia since the expressmusic 5300. but compared to past and phones i have currently used there phones os just outright sucks. they don't even try and promote phones here in the US anymore. They may still be a popular phone in EU, but in the US their presence is non-existant

CrossCheck said,
If they were superior than why don't we hear about it. i haven't used a nokia since the expressmusic 5300. but compared to past and phones i have currently used there phones os just outright sucks. they don't even try and promote phones here in the US anymore. They may still be a popular phone in EU, but in the US their presence is non-existant

Nokia Dominates South East Asia again because of the price of their phones

CrossCheck said,
If they were superior than why don't we hear about it. i haven't used a nokia since the expressmusic 5300. but compared to past and phones i have currently used there phones os just outright sucks. they don't even try and promote phones here in the US anymore. They may still be a popular phone in EU, but in the US their presence is non-existant

Us telecom providers suck. Here we buy phones outright from a Nokia Care or any other mobile phone shop. For data you buy data plan from the service provider. The plans are not dependent on phones whereas you people have specific data plans for specific phones. Whats up with that?.
I assume what you don't like in Nokia phones is not the OS itself but the UI. That's subjective. UI inconsistencies in S60v5 are ironed out in Symbian^3 and Symbian^4 will feature totally reworked UI. For me I will take a Nokia flagship or the N8 any day of the week.

CrossCheck said,
They may still be a popular phone in EU

Not for their smartphones, but I bought a nokia 1661 (£14) yesterday to last me 2 weeks

They need to use Android more.....as they make good hardware, and they can include their mapping software.

liju said,
Us telecom providers suck. Here we buy phones outright from a Nokia Care or any other mobile phone shop. For data you buy data plan from the service provider. The plans are not dependent on phones whereas you people have specific data plans for specific phones. Whats up with that?. I assume what you don't like in Nokia phones is not the OS itself but the UI. That's subjective. UI inconsistencies in S60v5 are ironed out in Symbian^3 and Symbian^4 will feature totally reworked UI. For me I will take a Nokia flagship or the N8 any day of the week.

I second that, even down here in New Zealand you choose your mobile phone, go off and purchase a sim pack from one of the four mobile phone carriers, then you choose your data plans and so forth. You like the iPhone but want to use the XT Network instead of Vodafone? no problems, buy the phone outright, purchase a XT Network sim pack and away you go

CrossCheck said,
If they were superior than why don't we hear about it. i haven't used a nokia since the expressmusic 5300. but compared to past and phones i have currently used there phones os just outright sucks. they don't even try and promote phones here in the US anymore. They may still be a popular phone in EU, but in the US their presence is non-existant

They are non-existant in YOUR world.
Alot of people do not know what is a Nexus One just like alot of people dont know there is (might be) a Nokia 2934

alfaaqua said,

They are non-existant in YOUR world.
Alot of people do not know what is a Nexus One just like alot of people dont know there is (might be) a Nokia 2934

I stopped arguing with people that don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, or how to use the shift key... a long time ago.

vaximily said,

I stopped arguing with people that don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, or how to use the shift key... a long time ago.


"There is a Nokia 2934"

Either you misread me or you are just plain stupid.

BTW each of the "there", "their", and "they're", should have gone between " ".

I hope it's nothing like the N900. The software is rubbish and the touchscreen awful on that one. Nokia hasn't made a good phone, smart or not, for years.

LaXu said,
I hope it's nothing like the N900. The software is rubbish and the touchscreen awful on that one. Nokia hasn't made a good phone, smart or not, for years.

What? The N900 is the best INTERNET tablet i have ever seen...nothing can compete with it...

LaXu said,
Nokia hasn't made a good phone, smart or not, for years.

Most ignorant comment I've seen in a while. There have been several decent Nokia phones. E63/E77/N95 etc

James Brooks said,

Most ignorant comment I've seen in a while. There have been several decent Nokia phones. E63/E77/N95 etc

The last good phone nokia made was the n95 8gb, i still have mine as my main phone but apple seem to be winning me over and i want a iphone next.

LaXu said,
I hope it's nothing like the N900. The software is rubbish and the touchscreen awful on that one. Nokia hasn't made a good phone, smart or not, for years.

The N900 is not a phone.

alfaaqua said,

The N900 is not a phone.

Yes it is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N900

What I didn't know is that they've had a tablet with the same name, which just goes to show what kind of bull**** their model numbers are.

N900, the phone, is one of those "sounds great on paper, terrible in reality" products. The operating system is poorly designed in many areas and is awkward to use without the supplied stylus pen. Like many other manufacturers, Nokia has no clue about usability. They must've had lots of "well this worked fine on a desktop PC so let's use it on a phone" genius moments.

CrossCheck said,
unless Nokia switches to android. nokia is gonna die out or end up like motorola...a mere shell of itself

Now that's just a stupid comment...

nutterguy said,

Now that's just a stupid comment...

no its a fair comment. they are terrible now at promoting new phones to us here in the Us. HTC, Samsung and LG bombard the US with new phones and in the past year i might have seen a carrier promote a Nokia once in that time. if it keeps up eventually ppl here in the us are gonna say "hey wow a new nokia phone....I thought they died out like Pontiac"

CrossCheck said,

no its a fair comment. they are terrible now at promoting new phones to us here in the Us. HTC, Samsung and LG bombard the US with new phones and in the past year i might have seen a carrier promote a Nokia once in that time. if it keeps up eventually ppl here in the us are gonna say "hey wow a new nokia phone....I thought they died out like Pontiac"

Nokia will never die, you seen how popular the N900 became? go back playing with your crappy other phone

CrossCheck said,
unless Nokia switches to android. nokia is gonna die out or end up like motorola...a mere shell of itself

Foolish comment. While I would probably never buy a Nokia phone they have a very dominant position in Europe and other regions around the world. Nokia doesn't need Android.

CrossCheck said,

no its a fair comment. they are terrible now at promoting new phones to us here in the Us. HTC, Samsung and LG bombard the US with new phones and in the past year i might have seen a carrier promote a Nokia once in that time. if it keeps up eventually ppl here in the us are gonna say "hey wow a new nokia phone....I thought they died out like Pontiac"

Nokia probably don't promote their phones in the USA since they don't feel that they have the ability to move people from their pre-meditated choices such as their iPhones and Nexus Ones. However, Nokia is HUGE outside the US, as proven by the fact that they're the #1 smartphone maker in the world, DESPITE not having a big US market share. Nokia isn't going anywhere, its just that you guys in the USA don't understand how big they actually are since their impact isn't as obvious due to their small market share there.

CrossCheck said,

no its a fair comment. they are terrible now at promoting new phones to us here in the Us. HTC, Samsung and LG bombard the US with new phones and in the past year i might have seen a carrier promote a Nokia once in that time. if it keeps up eventually ppl here in the us are gonna say "hey wow a new nokia phone....I thought they died out like Pontiac"

Speaking for my area of the UK, similar feeling. Apple, Sony Ericsson or Samsung are the only handsets you'll find above desk drawer height.

asdavis10 said,
Foolish comment. While I would probably never buy a Nokia phone they have a very dominant position in Europe and other regions around the world. Nokia doesn't need Android.

I know in the Asia-Pacific region, Nokia aren't seen as the bleeding edge but when Nokia does adopt a piece of technology they do it right and without 1.0-itice. As much as people go on about the 'smart phones', I can assure you that around universities, coffee shops and so forth you'll find a smart phone but 9/10 they're the businesses, when it comes to their own phone you'd be lucky to see someone with something costing more than NZ$500 if you're lucky.

Nokia does what a phone needs to do - and nothing more. Remember when there was a move to colour screens and Nokia was still shipping black and white screens? you remember when everyone was shipping with cameras and Nokia was one of the last to add it? amazing how all those other situations we had doomsayers like CrossCheck claiming that Nokia is late to the party and yet here we are in 2010 and they're still around.

CrossCheck said,
unless Nokia switches to android. nokia is gonna die out or end up like motorola...a mere shell of itself

Nonsense, besides being the #1 phone maker in the world, Nokia is also #1 telco equipment manufacturer (most of the networks SPs use are developed by Nokia-Siemens, ALcatel-Lucent and Eriksson, followed by chinese Huawei), so I doubt they'll die out.

CrossCheck said,

no its a fair comment. they are terrible now at promoting new phones to us here in the Us. HTC, Samsung and LG bombard the US with new phones and in the past year i might have seen a carrier promote a Nokia once in that time. if it keeps up eventually ppl here in the us are gonna say "hey wow a new nokia phone....I thought they died out like Pontiac"


Its stupid and they dont need Android. They have MeeGo.

CrossCheck said,
unless Nokia switches to android. nokia is gonna die out or end up like motorola...a mere shell of itself

I like nokia and their unique designs for their phones. unlike iPhone, nokia comes in variety of models and designs for any purpose and taste. However, I personally believe Nokia could have been better by adopting new operating systems. I have been using Nokia for a long time, but sometimes Symbian OS really drives me crazy. nevertheless still I prefer it over iPhone. For android I think it takes time for it to become one of the best or at least comparable. perhaps version 2.2 (Froyo) would be very good.

Edited by trojan_market, Jun 14 2010, 2:14pm :

Majesticmerc said,
Nokia probably don't promote their phones in the USA since they don't feel that they have the ability to move people from their pre-meditated choices such as their iPhones and Nexus Ones. However, Nokia is HUGE outside the US, as proven by the fact that they're the #1 smartphone maker in the world, DESPITE not having a big US market share. Nokia isn't going anywhere, its just that you guys in the USA don't understand how big they actually are since their impact isn't as obvious due to their small market share there.

While I agree with most of your statement, I don't think Apple and Google are the reason Nokia doesn't advertise heavily here. Nokia has been in the smart phone business a lot longer than either of them.

However, I do think Nokia would have a much broader presence here if they would create CDMA phones instead of the GSM-only route they've gone... maybe when LTE is more widespread, we'll start seeing more Nokia in the US.

CrossCheck said,
unless Nokia switches to android. nokia is gonna die out or end up like motorola...a mere shell of itself

Actually Motorola is still dying, even with Android. And Nokia profits are still high, and selling a ton of smartphones.

CrossCheck said,
unless Nokia switches to android. nokia is gonna die out or end up like motorola...a mere shell of itself
Motorola has quite the successful line of Android devices right now. Especially on the Verizon network, with two more high powered devices launching next month. Moto is making a comeback.