Nokia sold 8.2 million Lumias in Q4 2013

Nokia did not reveal how many feature phones or Lumia smartphones it sold during the fourth quarter of 2013 in its latest financial report today, but later confirmed that it sold 8.2 million Lumias in the fourth quarter.

Back in October, Nokia said it sold 8.8 million Lumia handsets worldwide and 55.8 million mobile phones for the third quarter of 2013. Today's report from Nokia's Devices and Services division stated that Lumia sales for the fourth quarter of 2013 were up from the same period a year ago but down from the third quarter of last year. Overall, Nokia sold 30 million Lumia phones in 2013, over double the number that it recorded being sold during 2012.

Nokia is now listing its Device and Services division, which includes its Lumia and Asha phone business, as "discontinued operations" in its financial reporting. The division is still scheduled to be sold to Microsoft by the end of the first quarter of 2014. However, today's news release did not indicate that the sale had actually been closed.  It did say, "As of the end of 2013, Nokia has received the majority of regulatory approvals for the transaction.' That would suggest both companies are still awaiting a "thumbs up" from one or more countries before the deal can officially be completed.

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One of issues that causing people to switch back to iPhone or android is the nonstop restarts. Everyone I know who has Nokia windows phone 8 handset tell me everytime there over the restarting. Come on Nokia it's been over year now fix the issue already! I myself switch back after a month due to the restarting and black screen issues.

The Nokia lumia has its pros and its cons but unfortunately, its cons are greater than its pros. I personally enjoy the Windows Phone experience, it's new and refreshing, but it does have its flaws. In all these years I've worked in the wireless industry, I can say I have NEVER had a person come and ask me for a Lumia phone. They come in drones for iPhones and some ask for Galaxy phones. The Lumia just doesn't stand out, and the only times we've sold them has been when they have been free or the last option for a customer.

Nokia (Microsoft) need to step it up.

My issue with Nokia is to many phones with different model numbers and specs across the carrier platforms. Release a Flagship and Low budget phone and make them both available for all carriers. That is it. LG has done it with the G2, Samsung has done it with the Galaxy Note and Galaxy phones and HTC has done it with the HTC One. They should look alike and have the same bells and whistles. Exclusivity doesn't work at all. With the Lumia, it has been different versions of almost the same model which has ****ed customers off. There were quite a few people who wanted to get the Lumia 1520, but once again exclusivity to AT&T killed the chances of it selling well.

So basically Q4 2013 was worse then Q4 2012 but overall Lumia had a great year. Lets not forget that their flagship device came out in Q4 2012: The Lumia 920. Since then we've had niche devices such as the L1020 and their phablets. What Nokia needs is a new flagship device. Something that people will compare to the next iPhone and Galaxy S in their comparion videos.

Fritzly said,
And badly need WP 8.1 as well...

Agreed. A new flagship device with killer hardware needs to be accompanied by new software as well. Especially in the case of Windows Phone where some features are still missing (although the black update improved some key arreas).

I think they need to improve the overall experience. A lot of stuff that was great and unique back in 2010 has been copied and improved by the competition. For example why not add the fast app switching/closing from Windows 8.1 to WP8.1?

What Killer hardware do you need or Want?

Seriously all, the 920 is still as fast today as when I bought it last year.

Everything Pops into place quickly with only games having launch time.

The only thing I can think that would be better is an update NFC Chip for lower Power.

Just give Me Crotana, and I will be happy.

MikadoWu said,
What Killer hardware do you need or Want?

Seriously all, the 920 is still as fast today as when I bought it last year.

Everything Pops into place quickly with only games having launch time.

The only thing I can think that would be better is an update NFC Chip for lower Power.

Just give Me Crotana, and I will be happy.

I love my 920 as well but do you really think people will buy it now among all those 1080p devices? I dont suspect that the 930 will be such a huge improvement over the 920. But I do expect 1080p resolution on a 'reasonable' screensize.

Ronnet said,
So basically Q4 2013 was worse then Q4 2012 but overall Lumia had a great year. Lets not forget that their flagship device came out in Q4 2012: The Lumia 920. Since then we've had niche devices such as the L1020 and their phablets. What Nokia needs is a new flagship device. Something that people will compare to the next iPhone and Galaxy S in their comparion videos.

No. Q4 2013 was slightly worse than Q3 2013, but better than Q4 2012, and they had a better overall year

Ronnet said,

I love my 920 as well but do you really think people will buy it now among all those 1080p devices? I dont suspect that the 930 will be such a huge improvement over the 920. But I do expect 1080p resolution on a 'reasonable' screensize.


What? Can you see jagged edges or even count a single pixel on the 920? Whats the 1080p needed for on the same screen size.
If it has any real advantage, okay, would be a nice investment. But PPI's are more then plenty now, rather see them using "Resolution is fine, lets conserve battery!"

Shadowzz said,

What? Can you see jagged edges or even count a single pixel on the 920? Whats the 1080p needed for on the same screen size.
If it has any real advantage, okay, would be a nice investment. But PPI's are more then plenty now, rather see them using "Resolution is fine, lets conserve battery!"

I don't need it but reviewers are pretty clear about how much gorgeous the 1080p display on the Lumia phablets look over the display of the Lumia 1020. I'm sure its a minor improvement but that doesnt matter. People want it and if Windows Phone doesnt keep up it will be branded as a lesser platform. Do you really think most people with a Galaxy S4 even use half of its features?

Damn, I was expecting a 10 million quarter as well, not a .6 drop. Nokia still has/had a lot to workout that hopefully Microsoft will fix. For starters, carrier availability is a mess in the U.S. Unless you're on AT&T then there's no guarantee that you'll get the next "flagship" Lumia (assuming you get a flagship Lumia at all). And second, Nokia/Microsoft needs to release a flagship phone that doesn't have "gimmick" attached to it.

The 1020 is awesome but much like the 808, only a handful of people want a 41 megapixel camera. The 1520 has great specs but 6 inches is a bit big. And I'm still undecided whether the extra row of tiles works on the 1520.

Nokia/Microsoft needs a plain Jane flagship. A phone with the latest specs, slim, 1080p screen, OIS/PureView and is still smaller than 5 inches. Nokia held onto that Snapdragon S4 probably longer than they should have. I have a 920 and it runs fine but I'm surprised we didn't get an upgraded 920 with the S800 and 1080p screen.

Anyone looking for a WP this holiday could either choose from the aging 920, the aging 925 or the aging 928 if they wanted a "standard" flagship phone. Or, they had to choose the gigantic 1520 if the wanted a WP with the latest specs. And that's assuming they were on AT&T and could buy the 1520. There's no middle ground in Nokia's offerings.

And finally, Microsoft needs to finish the 8.1 update ASAP. Not having any truly new features to show off this past holiday season killed some of the Windows Phone buzz. There wasn't anything "new" to talk about. Consumers love "new." New iOS7! New KitKat! What did Microsoft have in WP that was new? Nothing.

Hopefully once MS takes control they will have greater control over their software updates and carrier availability. Plus it will be good if Microsoft creates a more recognizable brand for their phones instead of a "seemingly random number that only makes sense if you constantly stay updated on the latest cell phone news."

my thoughts exactly.... in a few months time these phones will be 2 years old. How do you expect users to buy them ? They should have at least come out with newer processors even if they kept the same internals + chassis etc.

Figure 8 Dash said,
..... Nokia held onto that Snapdragon S4 probably longer than they should have. I have a 920 and it runs fine but I'm surprised we didn't get an upgraded 920 with the S800 and 1080p screen....

You do realize that SoC support is what MS provide in the OS. It's not Nokia hanging on too long, it's MS not expanding SoC support fast enough.

Here's hoping the re-org will see WP supporting the same ARM breadth as WindowsRT.

deadonthefloor said,

You do realize that SoC support is what MS provide in the OS. It's not Nokia hanging on too long, it's MS not expanding SoC support fast enough.

Here's hoping the re-org will see WP supporting the same ARM breadth as WindowsRT.

True, but Microsoft added support for the S800 in October and the 1520 was released near the end of November. Nokia had time to prep a legitimate 920 replacement in order to bolster holiday sales. They even would of had time to do pre-release marketing. Instead they stuck with their aging 92x line and a phablet.

Figure 8 Dash said,
.....

Valid point.

To date, they haven't really 'refreshed' any of their phones, they just keep going for diversity trying to get something in play for each niche.

Here's hoping the MS acquisition will give them more focus.

anothercookie said,
Lots of 520s and 521s being sold. Christmas specials had them low as heck off contract

Yup. A lot of people on tight budgets are discovering that a budget Windows phone is superior to the cheap Android phones, faster and sleeker. Anyone looking to use a prepaid phone service should be able to afford a 520 or 521. When my current phone dies, I'm buying one.

anothercookie said,
Lots of 520s and 521s being sold. Christmas specials had them low as heck off contract

Where I am there are a lot of Nokia 625's - big screen at a very low price.

CSheep said,
What does this mean?

They didn't sell higher in the holidays like expected, probably because the only new models were the 1520 and 1320 which are big 6" phones that are niche in general. They really should've tried to refresh the line before the holidays but I'm betting they didn't because they're waiting on WP8.1. They need a better stream of devices all year IMO.

George P said,

They didn't sell higher in the holidays like expected, probably because the only new models were the 1520 and 1320 which are big 6" phones that are niche in general. They really should've tried to refresh the line before the holidays but I'm betting they didn't because they're waiting on WP8.1. They need a better stream of devices all year IMO.

And that is on Microsoft. They really need to speed up WP development. I'm hearing a lot about MS spending billions on third party app development and marketing for WP. But what about the WP division itself? They are so incredibly slow.. do they have as much resources as the iOS and Android teams? Microsoft needs to fix this at the core: their own operations.

Ronnet said,
..... They are so incredibly slow.. do they have as much resources as the iOS and Android teams? Microsoft needs to fix this at the core: their own operations.

Could explain why the re-org earlier this year put the WP8 team inside the greater OS group.

Here's hoping the resources you claim are lacking will be provided under this new structure.

Ronnet said,

And that is on Microsoft. They really need to speed up WP development. I'm hearing a lot about MS spending billions on third party app development and marketing for WP. But what about the WP division itself? They are so incredibly slow.. do they have as much resources as the iOS and Android teams? Microsoft needs to fix this at the core: their own operations.

I agree that it should speed up, with WP being part of the OS group and not off on it's own it should see a boost in it's development speed. Another thing to remember is that while they're calling it WP 8.1 it's sounding like a very big update, not a minor one. We'll see how it goes after they get 8.1 out the door as far as future updates.

While not as impressive as Apple or Android numbers, still, when you do the math it's pretty nice. Assuming there are 90(ish) days in a quarter and there are a million seconds in 12 days(ish) then that's a little over one being sold every second of every day.

That's a shame, I thought they'd be able to hit 10 million in Q4. They'll need to release new devices faster and wider, the 1520 and 1320 are still limited and the 929/Icon still isn't out when it should've been by now IMO.

George P said,
That's a shame, I thought they'd be able to hit 10 million in Q4. They'll need to release new devices faster and wider, the 1520 and 1320 are still limited and the 929/Icon still isn't out when it should've been by now IMO.

Out of curiosity, what do you mean when you say the 1520 is limited?

I think he means limited availability, not limited in features (tho the 1320 obviously is).

Yeah had hoped they'd make 10m last quarter as well, but disappointing to drop from previous quarters when every previous one has seen growth. Maybe sales have peaked and we can expect the same this quarter, and until WP8.1 comes out or there's something that substantially boosts perception of WP we won't see 10 mill.

Stokkolm said,

Out of curiosity, what do you mean when you say the 1520 is limited?

Limited availability is what I mean. It's not out in lots of markets and neither is the 1320. And the Lumia Icon should've been out by now, don't know why it's taking so long. I think because Nokia is/was strapped for cash that they can't produce many units to do a true global release.

I hope with MS paying the bills that the next batch of WP8.1 devices have a quicker/wider release to more markets from day one.

Stokkolm said,

Out of curiosity, what do you mean when you say the 1520 is limited?

It is limited because being a 6" device is a niche one.

George P said,
Limited availability is what I mean. It's not out in lots of markets and neither is the 1320. And the Lumia Icon should've been out by now, don't know why it's taking so long. I think because Nokia is/was strapped for cash that they can't produce many units to do a true global release.

I hope with MS paying the bills that the next batch of WP8.1 devices have a quicker/wider release to more markets from day one.

Depends on how you define 'limited availability' given that no carrier in my country has them but you can purchase them through retailers be it off contract and unlocked.

Mr Nom Nom's said,

Depends on how you define 'limited availability' given that no carrier in my country has them but you can purchase them through retailers be it off contract and unlocked.

That's part of it, how many are going to buy them out right at retail? The 1520 is, what $700+ if I remember correctly. The 1320 is better at $380 but it's not the newest soecs. You need to have carriers pushing them as well as retail.

Replaced ? All 3 have the same Snapdragon™ S4 1.5Ghz processor minus wireless charging built in and in the case of 925 you only get 16Gb RAM. How do you find that an improvement and expect users to buy it ?

paulheu said,

The 920 was actually replaced by the 925 about a year ago, then superseded by the 1020.

The 925 is a special edition of the 920, the name indicates this. The 1020 is a niche device. Not a lot of people are willing to spend so much extra cash and sacrifice design for a superb camera. What they need is the L930 running Windows Phone 8.1.

You do you suggest Nokia get their hands on an OS that isn't released yet?

And to be clear, a lack of a CPU bump doesn't mean the phone wasn't updated. Look at the MacBook Air from 2012 -> 2013, in some cases it got slower, but it's still considered an update.

greenwizard88 said,
You do you suggest Nokia get their hands on an OS that isn't released yet?

And to be clear, a lack of a CPU bump doesn't mean the phone wasn't updated. Look at the MacBook Air from 2012 -> 2013, in some cases it got slower, but it's still considered an update.

No, I'm suggesting Microsoft is at fault here. The Lumia 925 was received as a minor upgrade. It also wasn't announced with all the fanfare of a new flagship. And there really wasnt any reason to because it really wasn't much of an update. If a device has the same software and not much of an improvement on the hardware side then in my book (and apparantly those of many others as well) it isn't a new generation/successor.

Perhaps Apple customers are different in this regard. I think Cooks could sell them his own poo if he calls it the iTurd.

C#Rocks said,
Replaced ? All 3 have the same Snapdragon™ S4 1.5Ghz processor minus wireless charging built in and in the case of 925 you only get 16Gb RAM. How do you find that an improvement and expect users to buy it ?

It isn't Android, the available CPU performance differences between when the 920 device was released and the 925 was minimal without a massive battery impact.

Built in Wireless charging was in the 928, but removed in the 925 due to carrier blow back, specifically thank ATT.

As for storage. the 925 was available in 16gb and 32gb.

The 925 also got slightly better camera optics and a better quality AMOLED screen.

(The 925 and 928 are technically almost identical - with the 928 sold by Verizon, even though it is also a global phone - it also has additional radio technology - but no FM radio due to room for the connector to the antenna.)


The 1020 is just a revision of the 925 with the huge 41mp sensor strapped on it. (Notice that its camera performance is still quite good, even with the older CPU.)


So if you look at the Lumia 920, and the 925/928 and 1020, it looks more like the version differences that Apple provides, rather than throwing every new technology in and hoping it works like others do.


The 1520 and the Lumia Icon (929) are the true 'next' generation versions with 1080p and faster CPUs.

(Nokia was waiting on screen technology of 1080p to get the subpixel color density up to match the 720p AMOLED screens they were already using. As nice as some of the 1080p screens are from last year, they gave up color density for the addressable resolution.)


With Microsoft taking the controls, it will be interesting to see what comes out later this year.

C#Rocks said,
Replaced ? All 3 have the same Snapdragon™ S4 1.5Ghz processor minus wireless charging built in and in the case of 925 you only get 16Gb RAM. How do you find that an improvement and expect users to buy it ?

You don't get 16GB of RAM on the it - you might get 16GB of storage but not 16GB of RAM.

I don't know what Nokia were waiting to release an update to their over a year old flagship 920 device. How can you sell a 1 and a half year old device and still expect growth in sales ?

Snapdragon S4 1.5Ghz in all 925, 928, 1020. 928 works only on Verizon as far as I know.
1020 is a niche product, not mainstream. 1520 is a phablet, not a mobile. Not much choice left. 930 should have been out with 1520. Pity they missed the train.

Annual Phone upgrades are the norm followed by Google (for Nexus devices), Apple and Samsung (for Galaxy S and Galaxy Note Series). Apple just launched their iphone 4 in India.. Pace of smartphone hardware has slowed down and we are not seeing any major leaps in innovation in 12 months. While I agree that Lumia 920 needs an upgrade, I believe the need is mostly in Software and less in Hardware.

C#Rocks said,
Snapdragon S4 1.5Ghz in all 925, 928, 1020. 928 works only on Verizon as far as I know.
1020 is a niche product, not mainstream. 1520 is a phablet, not a mobile. Not much choice left. 930 should have been out with 1520. Pity they missed the train.

1020 is a niche product? The main carrier has already replaced the 920 with the 1020 so it is at least seen by one vendor as an upgrade from 920 rather than a completely new category. As for lack of upgrades, I wouldn't be surprised if they're waiting for the Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 which will be a 64bit ARM processor that'll probably launch along side Windows Phone 8.1.

C#Rocks said,
Snapdragon S4 1.5Ghz in all 925, 928, 1020. 928 works only on Verizon as far as I know.
1020 is a niche product, not mainstream. 1520 is a phablet, not a mobile. Not much choice left. 930 should have been out with 1520. Pity they missed the train.

Does the 928 only work with verizon? It has CDMA and GSM it looks like... I think it works on other networks as well, though, maybe not perfectly =). Also, the 929 is coming out soon, no? Maybe the 921 will be too?