Nokia joins Samsung in slamming iPhone 5

It looks like the claws are officially out now that Apple has revealed the iPhone 5. Samsung is already running a set of print ads that tries to show that the Galaxy S III is, in Samsung's opinion, far superior to the iPhone 5.

Now Nokia is also joining in on the iPhone 5 bash wagon train. In a post on the company's official Twitter page on Saturday, it offered up some features that will be part of the company's upcoming Windows Phone 8-based Lumia 920 with a final tag that tries to slam the iPhone 5. It states, "Lumia 920: Wireless charging, amazing camera, screen you can use with gloves on and much more. No, it doesn't take a genius."

One could also interpret the Nokia Twitter message as a slam against Samsung as well, which used "It doesn't take a genius" as the tag line in its new print ad.

While it's great that Nokia is trying to go after the iPhone 5, it's also a little risky since the Lumia 920 hasn't been released and won't be for at least a few more weeks. There's also the matter that the "amazing camera" that the Lumia 920 is supposed to have was promoted by a video that Nokia later admitted did not actually use the Lumia 920 hardware.

Source: Nokia Twitter page

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Utter rubbish. How can Nokia and Samsung compete against Apple's greatest, most innovative feature - their new 71 X 40 screen aspect ratio. OK, it'll be crap at showing all the old-fashioned, boring 16 X 9 movies and TV programs but it's only a matter of time before the entire Hollywood and TV industries switches to Apple's spiffing 71 X 40. Then Nokia and Samsung are sunk.

Is Nokia still alive?

"No, it doesn't take a genius.". If Nokia thinks that it takes a genius to use others, it makes no surprise why they have ended like this.

Enron said,
You obviously haven't been paying attention over the past 8 months.

Obviously, you're among the ones that believe that the latest Nokias will resurrect it...

what people don't get is apple product use different material to produce not about who got better freaking spec...grown up folks... Samsung use plastic ! Apple use Glass and Aluminium!

Not about pointing who got better camera or tiny little feature...get over it.. It's completely bozo!

Master of Earth said,
what people don't get is apple product use different material to produce not about who got better freaking spec...grown up folks... Samsung use plastic ! Apple use Glass and Aluminium!

Not about pointing who got better camera or tiny little feature...get over it.. It's completely bozo!

Everyone uses glass. So what if the phone's body is made out of plastic? Have you held one? They're completely solid and no creaks. Makes them lighter, too.

The little features like SD slot, screen size, wireless charging, and nice camera are all that differentiate phones nowadays. They're all strong, so they need to have good features to compete. The iPhone 5 misses pretty bad there.

Master of Earth said,
what people don't get is apple product use different material to produce not about who got better freaking spec...grown up folks... Samsung use plastic ! Apple use Glass and Aluminium!

Not about pointing who got better camera or tiny little feature...get over it.. It's completely bozo!

Dude, have you thought of chilling out yourself? It would be a great idea to do so. :-D

mrp04 said,

Everyone uses glass. So what if the phone's body is made out of plastic? Have you held one? They're completely solid and no creaks. Makes them lighter, too.

The little features like SD slot, screen size, wireless charging, and nice camera are all that differentiate phones nowadays. They're all strong, so they need to have good features to compete. The iPhone 5 misses pretty bad there.

Just to add something on it, nokia uses polycarbonate body which way better than aluminium.

ttterminator said,

Just to add something on it, nokia uses polycarbonate body which way better than aluminium.

Polycarbonate is plastic.

Master of Earth said,
what people don't get is apple product use different material to produce not about who got better freaking spec...grown up folks... Samsung use plastic ! Apple use Glass and Aluminium!

Not about pointing who got better camera or tiny little feature...get over it.. It's completely bozo!

Not this again, it's either because of the plastic or the lag either way apple is "better" So lets step away from samsung (not the only manufacturer ever... but fyi, yes they use glass) and take a look at the likes of HTC's Lower End One V, made of metal and glass it's surely superior? What about the Lumias? Lots of metal and glass there. Surely it's better than every thing because of that?

mrp04 said,

Everyone uses glass. So what if the phone's body is made out of plastic? Have you held one? They're completely solid and no creaks. Makes them lighter, too.

The little features like SD slot, screen size, wireless charging, and nice camera are all that differentiate phones nowadays. They're all strong, so they need to have good features to compete. The iPhone 5 misses pretty bad there.

SD cards are indeed a strong point, at least for me. That is why I will wait for a Lumia 930 or whatever it will be called to replace my 900

Wireless charging could become a nice feature, once charger will be widely available like in Mc Donalds or Starbucks but I guess it will take a while.

Nice cameras are also an important factor; I do not use an iPhone so I cannot comment on it but I am glad that Nokia made improvements: the one on my 900 is quite disappointing.

derekaw said,

Polycarbonate is plastic.

And Aluminium is metal. Your point?

It all depends on the quality of the material. Have you ever held a Lumia 800/900 in your hand? IMO no phone has ever felt better, it feels sollid, it feels durable, it feels amazing.

Fritzly said,
SD cards are indeed a strong point, at least for me. That is why I will wait for a Lumia 930 or whatever it will be called to replace my 900

Wireless charging could become a nice feature, once charger will be widely available like in Mc Donalds or Starbucks but I guess it will take a while.

SD slots comes up a lot - HOX and iPhone (I guess others too) have decided not to include them but people seem to voice objection, but I don't think the average consumer really utilises an SD slot. And they do bring issues such as loading dictionaries / dependent files onto the SD card, then if you change it, I assume because the other SD card has music etc on, then you lose your ability to use apps connected to that original card.

Manufacturers need to overcome this by providing enough internal storage to please the majority of people (never going to please everyone).

Wireless everything is the way forward! I was surprised the new iPods didn't have wireless syncing. I want to walk into my flat, drop my bag down and for everything in there to automatically sync. I shouldn't need to plug devices in, just drop them onto a charging station and they sync and charge, photos transferred to my PC / cloud, new music updated, etc etc.

This sort of integration should be possible now but it doesn't feel like it. Even Android phones with wi-fi etc only seem to sync to dropbox etc, and not truely to the PC directly, its using these cloud services as a proxy.


'And Aluminium is metal. Your point?'

Typically metal objects are better than plastic objects. My phone is with me all day every day and I would rather it not be a bit of plastic, even if it is the finest 'polycarbonate' that a phone company can produce. Mostly it's disposable crap that is made out of plastic.

Each to his own, if you want a plastic phone I hope you enjoy it.

derekaw said,

'And Aluminium is metal. Your point?'

Typically metal objects are better than plastic objects. My phone is with me all day every day and I would rather it not be a bit of plastic, even if it is the finest 'polycarbonate' that a phone company can produce. Mostly it's disposable crap that is made out of plastic.

Each to his own, if you want a plastic phone I hope you enjoy it.

So you would rather use a phone that is made of metal that can disrupt the signal on your phone, as opposed to polycarbonate that is light, just as strong as steel (in this application at least) and allows for a better signal?

I'm sorry but that's just plain wacky.

I mean did you even think about what you were posting before posting it?

derekaw said,
My phone is with me all day every day and I would rather it not be a bit of plastic, even if it is the finest 'polycarbonate' that a phone company can produce.

Bulletproof windows are made of Polycarbonat.

MothBox said,

Wireless everything is the way forward! I was surprised the new iPods didn't have wireless syncing. I want to walk into my flat, drop my bag down and for everything in there to automatically sync. I shouldn't need to plug devices in, just drop them onto a charging station and they sync and charge, photos transferred to my PC / cloud, new music updated, etc etc.

This sort of integration should be possible now but it doesn't feel like it. Even Android phones with wi-fi etc only seem to sync to dropbox etc, and not truely to the PC directly, its using these cloud services as a proxy.

Try windows phone. When the handset is charging it will use your WiFi to sync with your PC. I would assume that with the new nokias, you will put it on the wireless charging pad and if your PC is switched on they will sync silently in the background. This is really useful, I only ever connect my phone to my PC to update it, which won't be needed any more with WP8 :-)

Shane Nokes said,

So you would rather use a phone that is made of metal that can disrupt the signal on your phone, as opposed to polycarbonate that is light, just as strong as steel (in this application at least) and allows for a better signal?


I'm sorry but that's just plain wacky.

I mean did you even think about what you were posting before posting it?

I dont like plastic crap, If I get a choice I dont buy plastic. My computer is metal, my speakers are metal, apart from the keys my keyboard is metal. In my world quality products are not made of plastic. Some plastic phones are very heavy. Some plastic phones spilt apart into many bits when you drop them and you need to put them together again. Some plastic phones are a POS. I just dont like plastic crap and I wont buy a plastic phone if I can avoid it. Enjoy your plastic phone.

Edited by derekaw, Sep 17 2012, 10:07am :

mog0 said,

Try windows phone. When the handset is charging it will use your WiFi to sync with your PC. I would assume that with the new nokias, you will put it on the wireless charging pad and if your PC is switched on they will sync silently in the background. This is really useful, I only ever connect my phone to my PC to update it, which won't be needed any more with WP8 :-)

But you have 1 extra bit. Why use wireless charging when you can plug your phone into your computer or the wall and not have the extra bit. Lay phone down on wireless charge bag/mat or plug phone in.

Please tell me how an extra bit makes life better? Please tell me how the extra bit is not a gimmick?

mog0 said,

Try windows phone. When the handset is charging it will use your WiFi to sync with your PC. I would assume that with the new nokias, you will put it on the wireless charging pad and if your PC is switched on they will sync silently in the background. This is really useful, I only ever connect my phone to my PC to update it, which won't be needed any more with WP8 :-)

My biggest issue with WP devices is that they only sync with the "cloud" which I detest...

Master of Earth said,
what people don't get is apple product use different material to produce not about who got better freaking spec...grown up folks... Samsung use plastic ! Apple use Glass and Aluminium!

Not about pointing who got better camera or tiny little feature...get over it.. It's completely bozo!

You know there is more than one type of plastic? Thinking that plastics are all 'cheap' products is seriously ignorant.

I prefer the look of the matte polycarbonate to aluminium, shame they made it glossy on the 920.

derekaw said,

'And Aluminium is metal. Your point?'

Typically metal objects are better than plastic objects. My phone is with me all day every day and I would rather it not be a bit of plastic, even if it is the finest 'polycarbonate' that a phone company can produce. Mostly it's disposable crap that is made out of plastic.

Each to his own, if you want a plastic phone I hope you enjoy it.


oh, how about fiberglass for one? I don't see any formula one cars made from steel or wolfram.

And plastics are allot, really allot of materials and many of which far surpass aluminum and even steel when it comes to strength and durability.

Also don't forget the metal fatigue. you can bump those plastics billions of times, but your metal body has a limit

derekaw said,

'And Aluminium is metal. Your point?'

Typically metal objects are better than plastic objects. My phone is with me all day every day and I would rather it not be a bit of plastic, even if it is the finest 'polycarbonate' that a phone company can produce. Mostly it's disposable crap that is made out of plastic.

Each to his own, if you want a plastic phone I hope you enjoy it.

No, plastics can be tailored to specific requirements a lot more easily than metals and polymers are one of the most diverse materials in their properties. Just because you use products which use cheap plastics does not mean that every plastic is cheap and weak. Even those common plastics are great in their own way, they meet the mechanical requirements while using less energy and are cheaper to manufacture than metals.

In this case PC vs Aluminium alloys is a non-issue anyway, the thing that will break is the glass screen, and the design/shape of the phone is the deciding factor here, rather than the body material. I would say the the Lumia's design is more likely to save it's screen than the iPhone 5, but that is just speculation/anecdotal from the iPhone 4 design.

derekaw said,

I dont like plastic crap, If I get a choice I dont buy plastic. My computer is metal, my speakers are metal, apart from the keys my keyboard is metal. In my world quality products are not made of plastic. Some plastic phones are very heavy. Some plastic phones spilt apart into many bits when you drop them and you need to put them together again. Some plastic phones are a POS. I just dont like plastic crap and I wont buy a plastic phone if I can avoid it. Enjoy your plastic phone.

lol, do you also use metal garbage bags and a metal toothbrush?

Minimoose said,

No, plastics can be tailored to specific requirements a lot more easily than metals and polymers are one of the most diverse materials in their properties. Just because you use products which use cheap plastics does not mean that every plastic is cheap and weak. Even those common plastics are great in their own way, they meet the mechanical requirements while using less energy and are cheaper to manufacture than metals.

In this case PC vs Aluminium alloys is a non-issue anyway, the thing that will break is the glass screen, and the design/shape of the phone is the deciding factor here, rather than the body material. I would say the the Lumia's design is more likely to save it's screen than the iPhone 5, but that is just speculation/anecdotal from the iPhone 4 design.

I just don't like plastic stuff. Call me old fashioned.

Enron said,

lol, do you also use metal garbage bags and a metal toothbrush?


That's different, they are not phones and don't come with a metal or better than plastic option. How old are you?

derekaw said,

That's different, they are not phones and don't come with a metal or better than plastic option. How old are you?

Old enough to know metal isn't always better than plastic.

trip21 said,
Yeah it's a fail by Nokia, Samsung or Mapple could fire back "OK where can I pick one up?"

Yeah i also have a nokia phone and they do make it a lot late... may be thats y s3 was sold out with that many numbers.

Andrew Lyle said,
920: No price or date..

and it's Nokia.. They are following BlackBerry down the toilet.


At least Nokia phones are indestructible.

Andrew Lyle said,
920: No price or date..

and it's Nokia.. They are following BlackBerry down the toilet.

Their hardware is finished, Windows Phone 8 is also now finished and RTM. No doubt Microsoft will unveal the release date after announcing all the software features of WP8 and generating some hype at Build 2012.

People have been saying Nokia is dead or dying for a long time now. Yet there are so many signs of recovery. The Lumia 800/900 sold reasonable, people are actually talking about the new Lumia phones and the Lumia 920 doesn't just measure up to the iPhone but actually surpasses it.

Many of the arguments as to why Nokia is dead (nobody talks about it, weak hardware) don't hold up anymore. Perhaps it is time to change your tune in light of the new reality. Or at least come up with arguments...

trip21 said,
Yeah it's a fail by Nokia, Samsung or Mapple could fire back "OK where can I pick one up?"

The 920? November, at AT&T i'd say. Sure it's not official, but there's enough evidence to point to a November release for all the new WP8 devices, not just the Lumias.

We also know Verizon and t-mobile are going to get one or both of the new Lumia devices as well. The iphone 5 is what it is, it will sell regardless, it could be a even more minor update over the older version but it doesn't matter. Either way those are repeat customers who are more or less upgrading, at least a good chunk of them are.

Sorry Nokia, but you'll be late to the game, when most people would have bought their new iPhone, Galaxy, One X and be forgetting about the Lumia.

watchthisspace said,
Sorry Nokia, but you'll be late to the game, when most people would have bought their new iPhone, Galaxy, One X and be forgetting about the Lumia.

Xbox was late to the game, now its king, so your full of ****

Toysoldier said,

Xbox was late to the game, now its king, so your full of ****


Got a source to back that up?

I thought PC was king.

Toysoldier said,

Xbox was late to the game, now its king, so your full of ****

Are you talking about the Xbox or the Xbox 360. Because the original Xbox was late, and while not a failure, it was not a success compared to the PS2. However the Xbox 360 was early and it's the No. 1 console (for hardware and software sales).

And I know how serious Raa takes his sources so:
http://voices.yahoo.com/xbox-1...s-failure-29301.html?cat=19
http://www.therichest.org/tech...battle-of-video-game-sales/
http://www.slashgear.com/micro...-out-of-the-water-03156739/
http://microsoft-news.com/micr...ves-ps3-and-wii-way-behind/

Edited by virtorio, Sep 17 2012, 1:32am :

virtorio said,
Are you talking about the Xbox or the Xbox 360. Because the original Xbox was late, and while not a failure, it was not a success compared to the PS2. However the Xbox 360 was early and it's the No. 1 console (for hardware and software sales).

Its also a completely different industry. There are only 3 big players in the console arena, namely MS, Sony and Nintendo. Its also largely related to the available games that drives sales of the machines whereas mobile phones aren't under the same sort of jurisdiction. If I get an iPhone it doesn't mean I can't chat to my mates with Android phones.

The iPhone 5 will sell though. Its a fashion accessory and a social statement. The people who buy for these reasons don't care about NFC or any of its other supposed downsides.

MothBox said,

The iPhone 5 will sell though. Its a fashion accessory and a social statement. The people who buy for these reasons don't care about NFC or any of its other supposed downsides.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that. That's the only reason people buy iPhones... :rollseyes:

I don't care about NFC because the places that I go do not support it.

omgben said,

Yeah, keep telling yourself that. That's the only reason people buy iPhones... :rollseyes:

I don't care about NFC because the places that I go do not support it.

Why would the places you go have NFC if nobody's phone supports it?

Toysoldier said,

Xbox was late to the game, now its king, so your full of ****

If the smartphone market is that simple, then I'm most welcome to be wrong.

virtorio said,
Are you talking about the Xbox or the Xbox 360. Because the original Xbox was late, and while not a failure, it was not a success compared to the PS2. However the Xbox 360 was early and it's the No. 1 console (for hardware and software sales).

And I know how serious Raa takes his sources so:
http://voices.yahoo.com/xbox-1...s-failure-29301.html?cat=19
http://www.therichest.org/tech...battle-of-video-game-sales/
http://www.slashgear.com/micro...-out-of-the-water-03156739/
http://microsoft-news.com/micr...ves-ps3-and-wii-way-behind/

The original XBOX was not a failure, was a blood bath...... a $1 Billion one.

Raa said,

Got a source to back that up?

I thought PC was king.

If we're talking about the superior gaming experience then it is up for debate.

If we're talking sales (which seems to be criteria here) then the X360 performce much better then PC. Exact PC numbers are rare but many publishers have admitted that PC isn't nearly as profitable. More evidence comes from the fact that the PC version often is just an afterthrought that sometimes gets delayed in favor for the console versions (just look at Assassin's Creed). Sales figures on VGChartz also support this but how reliable they are, I don't know.

On a more positive note, while companies like Nvidia admit that PC sales are low they also see signs that the market is recovering. They believe that if this trend continues the PC market will surpass the console market in 2014. However I must note that the current consoles are old, this might have let to many gamers deciding they don't want to wait any longer. We'll have to wait and see what happens when the new generation is out.

omgben said,
Yeah, keep telling yourself that. That's the only reason people buy iPhones... :rollseyes:

Why else do the majority of people buy them?

MothBox said,

Why else do the majority of people buy them?


- they've spent money on a range of software for iOS already and changing platforms would be a waste of money
- they've brought media in iTunes and make use of iTunes Match
- they have Apple TV and use AirPlay
- plenty of apps available, and iOS is still the lead platform for many developers
- the fact that software and the hardware does everything a user wants or needs
- Apple have a good history with keeping their devices up-to-date
- they have good resale value
- while some phones may out-spec it in some areas, the hardware is still good (and according to these Geekbench results, it's no slouch:
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1030202)
- not everyone likes Android (or WP7) and is interested in customising it and installing custom ROMs

To say an iPhone is nothing more than a "fashion accessory" is ridiculous, and frankly pure flame bait

Edited by virtorio, Sep 17 2012, 4:52am :

virtorio said,
Are you talking about the Xbox or the Xbox 360. Because the original Xbox was late, and while not a failure, it was not a success compared to the PS2. However the Xbox 360 was early and it's the No. 1 console (for hardware and software sales).

And I know how serious Raa takes his sources so:
http://voices.yahoo.com/xbox-1...s-failure-29301.html?cat=19
http://www.therichest.org/tech...battle-of-video-game-sales/
http://www.slashgear.com/micro...-out-of-the-water-03156739/
http://microsoft-news.com/micr...ves-ps3-and-wii-way-behind/

yes xbox = windows phone 7

xbox 360 = windows phone 8

xbox kinect = nokia lumia 920

virtorio said,

To say an iPhone is nothing more than a "fashion accessory" is ridiculous, and frankly pure flame bait

Some good points. I'm not actually anti-Apple. I'm thinking of picking one of these up along with an iMac in the next few months - the uniformity between devices and clean design being a main attraction for me.

But out here in HK they really do seem to hold them as if their a status symbol - people across in the mainland were buying the 4 and 4S for crazy amounts of money. I'm not saying that everyone does. Wasn't it Jobs who said people don't know what they want until you've told them? When I see groups of kids all with iPhones and colleagues who just load them with games I do wonder how many bought them because of the specific features or because everyone else has one. No one likes to be the odd-ball. And with phone company's pushing them as well people tend to just slip into that mould, their friends and family have them, its got a good tariff, may as well - I think this was partly the reason for the success of the S3 across here. Most people aren't "power users" for lack of a better phrase. They just want a phone and like choosing clothes to wear, they want to look good. Apple can supply that. They have the grandeur. The brand has class.

The software and hardware does everything a user wants or needs?... not yet, otherwise future releases would just be cosmetic redesigns.

omgben said,

Yeah, keep telling yourself that. That's the only reason people buy iPhones... :rollseyes:

I don't care about NFC because the places that I go do not support it.

Making payments is one of only a number of things you can do with nfc. It's not even the most useful.

virtorio said,

- they've spent money on a range of software for iOS already and changing platforms would be a waste of money
- they've brought media in iTunes and make use of iTunes Match
- they have Apple TV and use AirPlay
- plenty of apps available, and iOS is still the lead platform for many developers
- the fact that software and the hardware does everything a user wants or needs
- Apple have a good history with keeping their devices up-to-date
- they have good resale value
- while some phones may out-spec it in some areas, the hardware is still good (and according to these Geekbench results, it's no slouch:
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1030202)
- not everyone likes Android (or WP7) and is interested in customising it and installing custom ROMs

To say an iPhone is nothing more than a "fashion accessory" is ridiculous, and frankly pure flame bait

You make good points, but I have to add this. I work in IT and am a self confessed 'geek' - if I had an iPhone I would buy into the whole ecosystem as you said (apps, music match, iCloud etc.) - instead Ive chosen WP7/8 along with the MS ecosystem and that works great for me.

The big but here, is most of the people I know are not 'geeks' or techy, the majority have iPhones and some have iPads as well and I can tell you now NOT ONE single one of them uses the ecosystem - I've even tried to help them setup iCloud but they just stare blankly at me. I see people I know have iPhones all over facebook saying 'dam lost/broke phone, please send numbers folks' and everytime I ask how the hell in this day and age do you lose contacts - just sync them to iCloud and once again I'm either ignored or seriously stupid questions come flying back at me.

Now I know this is my own personal experience in people I know and are around me, but its all of them and the numbers are high.

Out of all the points you make, I would say app purchase history is most likely the biggest reason to stop ship jumping.

Last point, I have to agree with the original poster that for a lot of people an iPhone is a fashion accessory and nothing more, they simply do not understand or want to understand the things it can do (ecosystem wise), and this would be true no matter which platform they used although if they used WP7/8 then adding contacts has to be done to a synced account and to use the market you have to add your Microsoft account - that would at least get them using the email/contacts/calendar sync tools.

virtorio said,

- they've spent money on a range of software for iOS already and changing platforms would be a waste of money
- they've brought media in iTunes and make use of iTunes Match
- they have Apple TV and use AirPlay
- plenty of apps available, and iOS is still the lead platform for many developers
- the fact that software and the hardware does everything a user wants or needs
- Apple have a good history with keeping their devices up-to-date
- they have good resale value
- while some phones may out-spec it in some areas, the hardware is still good (and according to these Geekbench results, it's no slouch:
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1030202)
- not everyone likes Android (or WP7) and is interested in customising it and installing custom ROMs

To say an iPhone is nothing more than a "fashion accessory" is ridiculous, and frankly pure flame bait

Even tho what you said is true, its only true of a small percentage. The vast majority of peopel buy an iPhone because its a fashion statement, because it is the most popular device. That other stuff is really subjective. One of my business partners has an iPhone and he has only installed 5 apps, he doesn't play games and when asked about certain capabilities, he is liek totally deer in the headlights no idea. He is on his 2nd model and likely plans to get the iPhone 5. He hasnt installed any music or video either. He bought it because its an iPhone.

The reality is most people buy an iPhone simply becauses its an iPhone.
Tis video will show you my point - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdIWKytq_q4

I believe the ad was a shot at Samsung. Nokia is adding its own feature list that goes up against Samsung. And, then saying, that's right it doesn't take a genius.

I could be wrong. But, considering they've been jabbing at Samsung, I'd bet on this.

Wyn6 said,
I believe the ad was a shot at Samsung. Nokia is adding its own feature list that goes up against Samsung. And, then saying, that's right it doesn't take a genius.

I could be wrong. But, considering they've been jabbing at Samsung, I'd bet on this.

Hmmm but S3 has wireless charging as well so I think its just the iPhone 5.

tanjiajun_34 said,
Hmmm but S3 has wireless charging as well so I think its just the iPhone 5.

Not as standard - I beleive you need a separately purchased back-cover? And is it QI-based?