Nokia Lumia 900 launching March 18 for $99.99

So you’ve seen the photos from the launch, you’ve watched our hands-on video, you’ve even read the reports of a new model with an upgraded camera… now, understandably, you just want to know when you can actually get your hands on your very own Nokia Lumia 900. Corresponding with what we heard just a couple of weeks ago, it seems that there’s not too much longer to wait.

BGR got its hands on a copy of AT&T’s roadmap for part of 2012 via a ‘trusted source’; the documentation that they’ve viewed appears to confirm that the Lumia 900 will arrive on the network in March 18.

But far more significant is the price point at which the new smartphone will launch. For a device that’s widely being considered a ‘flagship’ handset, the expected price of just $99.99 on a two-year contract is extremely competitive. Prolific Microsoft follower Paul Thurrott has also tweeted that he too has seen documentation confirming the same launch price for the device.

The first-generation HTC TITAN Windows Phone is still selling on AT&T for $199.99, while pricing for its improved successor – the TITAN 2, with LTE connectivity and a 16MP camera – hasn’t yet been announced; this puts into context how aggressively Nokia is pricing its new top-of-the-line device in the US.

Indeed, eyebrows were also raised at BGR, who suggest that the 900’s attractive pricing “would make this sleek smartphone an absolute game-changer for Windows Phone”. Microsoft and Nokia clearly have a monumental task ahead – and the AT&T roadmap reportedly includes many other “heavy hitters” in the smartphone space for the first few months of the year.

We’ll still have to wait a couple of months to find out if consumers will respond to the competitive pricing of the new Nokia flagship device – between now and then, expect to see plenty of publicity from Microsoft, Nokia and AT&T promoting the handset ahead of its on-sale date.

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0nyX said,
Is the Lumia the only upcoming windows phone device?
Because that is the only one i see here on Neowin.

It's not the only one, it's the most anticipated one. As this is the phone that Nokia is using to come back into the US market. Hence all the news about it. Although, there's another article posted now about the HTC Titan II with the $ 199.99 price point.

I don't know a lot of about phones tbh

I have a Nokia C7 on t-mobile which uses a sim card. I'm currently on a 2 year contract and would like to have the new Windows phone, how can I upgrade?

Sonic. said,
currently on a 2 year contract and would like to have the new Windows phone, how can I upgrade?

Depends on your carrier.
In my region, some carriers allow you to pay the balance of the subsidy based on the number of months left on the contract for an 'anytime upgrade'.
My carrier allows you to upgrade if you have < 30 days remaining on your contract.

I'm in western Canada.

The Titan is awesome. Will be hard to decide between the LTE Lumia and Titan II. I actually prefer Netflix on Titan to iPad on StairMaster and such. Big enough no squint, small enough no hassle to take anwhere. The Lumia is just so slick and prolly build Nokia tough.

I laugh at those crying about single core. Yeah dual core will come, but seriously, Mango on single core outperforms everything else on dual core, so why do you just have to have dual core again?

For right out of the gate, I'm concerned that'll make the phone seem too cheap. It's not like when Amazon discounts phones for a penny, you know what's up there. Why not $149?

The device is interesting and in spite the fact that I just bought a Lumia 800 the bigger screen would be worth the upgrade, I miss my HD7 screen.
My guess is that once available Worldwide, the price will be around Euro 500/550 unless Nokia will try to dump HTC there too and offer it at Euro 400/450; less with contracts of course.
On the other hands by April we will, hopefully, know more about WP8/ Apollo therefore who knows.........

Fritzly said,
.........

Not just bigger screen, but the inclusion of Mango era sensors.
That's the only thing keeping me from exchanging my Focus for a Lumia.

I just picked up the original Titan with my contract renewal (2 years) with AT&T and I don't regret it at all. Nice phone.

Tuishimi said,
I just picked up the original Titan with my contract renewal (2 years) with AT&T and I don't regret it at all. Nice phone.

If I decided to get a Windows Phone 7, that is the phone I would want to get. I am worried about the sound call quality that a lot of people have been complaining about and HTC is investigating. Have you experience any problem with your calls?

It would be nice to see WP7 come out from the rut it's in. Maybe this phone will help.
It's all going to come down to advertising though.

I would buy it on day 1 for much more if it had 64GB of storage. Hell, just give us a 32GB version, WTF is up with these insanely small amounts of storage?

fenderMarky said,
No please... not Thurrott.

Glad I'm not the only one on the internet who can't stand that pompous tool. When I hear him talk, I can feel my IQ dropping.

It would be nice to see the cost but without contract, if it's around $400 or so I'm ditching my iPhone and getting this, but highly doubt it.

Let's see...No sd card, single core, 16gb internal storage, 1.0 MP front camera, 720p, 4.3 screen. $99.99 and a 2 year agreement sounds about right for a phone that is late to the party with outdated specs. I can live with the single core, but why is it so hard for Windows Phone 7 to come with sd card slots? People like having choices, not being stuck on one.

JSYOUNG571 said,
Let's see...No sd card, single core, 16gb internal storage, 1.0 MP front camera, 720p, 4.3 screen. $99.99 and a 2 year agreement sounds about right for a phone that is late to the party with outdated specs. I can live with the single core, but why is it so hard for Windows Phone 7 to come with sd card slots? People like having choices, not being stuck on one.

*sigh* I wish they'd add SD Card support just so I would stop hearing this absurd complaint. Does the iPhone have SD Card slots? Does that mean you would be happy if there was just more internal storage? Maybe a phone would come out with 32 GB or more. I would support that. But again, the OS itself takes all available storage and treats it as one volume. Meaning that you would not be able to swap out SD Cards...

Even the Google & Samsung with the Galaxy Nexus decided to forgo removable storage support - for developers trying to deliver a consistently stable and fast experience, removable storage just doesn't work. Too many variables that can possibly hamper the experience - card corruption, physical damage, tampering, low quality, unreliable, slow read speeds. Removing it can mess with the phone's filesystem or remove files the phone and it's applications are depending on, and leaves it also open to users to accidentally delete or corrupt system files on the SD - or even leave users wondering where their files on their phone have gone off too.

It does support SD cards - just not as removable storage. They get to create a better "experience" that way.

Edited by ~Johnny, Jan 25 2012, 8:28pm :

I guess the SD card inclusion might pose more issues (like the Focus) as opposed to just bumping the internal storage.

~Johnny said,
Even the Google & Samsung with the Galaxy Nexus decided to forgo removable storage support - for developers trying to deliver a consistently stable and fast experience, removable storage just doesn't work. To many thing variables that can possibly hamper the experience - card corruption, physical damage, tampering, low quality, unreliable, slow read speeds. Removing it can mess with the phone's filesystem or remove files the phone and it's applications are depending on, and leaves it also open to users to accidentally delete or corrupt system files on the SD - or even leave users wondering where their files on their phone have gone off too.

It does support SD cards - just not as removable storage. They get to create a better "experience" that way.

Then tell them to offer us 32/64GB of storage.

KomaWeiss said,
Then tell them to offer us 32/64GB of storage.

Would love too >.< As far as I can tell, the only WP device that actually shipped with 32GB of memory was the Toshiba Fujitsu device... no idea why no-one else puts out a larger one as an option.

JSYOUNG571 said,
Let's see...No sd card, single core, 16gb internal storage, 1.0 MP front camera, 720p, 4.3 screen. $99.99 and a 2 year agreement sounds about right for a phone that is late to the party with outdated specs. I can live with the single core, but why is it so hard for Windows Phone 7 to come with sd card slots? People like having choices, not being stuck on one.

How are these outdated specs, troll? Do specs tell everything about how the phone will actually perform? No. And why exactly is this phone "late to the party", too?

I think you are in the minority if you care about SD card slots. Good news for you though, there are lots of smartphone options out there with SD cards. Looks like OEMs are going with the majority of users who just don't care about SD cards.

Also, I think 16GB is fine for most people. For people that it isn't fine for its because they have this obsessive need to have every last track they've downloaded in the past 10 years on their phone. Don't know when they have the time to listen to all that music. Nothing right or wrong about it, just most people only need a few thousand songs with them not a few 10's of thousands of songs.

JSYOUNG571 said,
Let's see...No sd card, single core, 16gb internal storage, 1.0 MP front camera, 720p, 4.3 screen. $99.99 and a 2 year agreement sounds about right for a phone that is late to the party with outdated specs. I can live with the single core, but why is it so hard for Windows Phone 7 to come with sd card slots? People like having choices, not being stuck on one.

Really? This phone has LTE...does iPhone? How much storage do you really need? 32GB would be better, but 16GB is fine. If you use Zune Pass, yu won't need to store music anyways. Plus the phone hooked up to skydrive when you install the app which is free. Any tunes you want to hear from your own library, just upload them to skydrive and then stream them to your phone.

Will only cost you time.

Coi said,

How are these outdated specs, troll? Do specs tell everything about how the phone will actually perform? No. And why exactly is this phone "late to the party", too?

A troll is someone like you who sits an scans people comments on line all day. If someone disagrees with something, you are not intelligent enough to agree to disagree with someone without calling them names. I actually feel sorry for you, you are a victim of our education system that passed you and allowed you to go out into the world full of ignorance.

TechieXP said,

Really? This phone has LTE...does iPhone? How much storage do you really need? 32GB would be better, but 16GB is fine. If you use Zune Pass, yu won't need to store music anyways. Plus the phone hooked up to skydrive when you install the app which is free. Any tunes you want to hear from your own library, just upload them to skydrive and then stream them to your phone.

Will only cost you time.

So you are saying that I can upload 15,000 or more songs to Skydrive and stream it to a Windows Phone 7 without touching the little 16GB I have on my phone? What does the Zune pass do? Right now I have up to 15,000 songs on my Google Music and can stream it anywhere for free. How does Skydrive and Zune Pass compete with that? Is Zune pass free?

JSYOUNG571 said,
....Windows Phone 7 to come with sd card slots? People like having choices, not being stuck on one.

Well I would say it's the same reason drive extender was removed from Windows Home Server.
Once the updated NT Kernel hits the phone, we can have storage spaces, so more companies will opt to include SD slots.

JSYOUNG571 said,
Let's see...No sd card, single core, 16gb internal storage, 1.0 MP front camera, 720p, 4.3 screen. $99.99 and a 2 year agreement sounds about right for a phone that is late to the party with outdated specs. I can live with the single core, but why is it so hard for Windows Phone 7 to come with sd card slots? People like having choices, not being stuck on one.

Windows Phones CAN have SD slots... However, WP7 uses the technology as planned, and this created more confusion from goofs that it was worth to OEMs.

SD cards are SECURE Digital Flash cards. WP7 turns on this security, thus making the card NOT readable on anything but the original phone it was installed in. You could have several SD cards and WP7 would recognize them as 'extended' space. However outside of the phone they become unusable because the SD (Secure) is used.

WP7 could offer a local 'isolated' storage area for offloading content, but OEMs have not wanted the expense of an 'additional' microSD interface on the phones and in effect offers NO functionality that SkyDrive already provides and is a better overall solution now that the SkyDrive API sets are available to developers.

Removable SD cards are a thing and 'thinking' of the past, as it sounds good until you start to think the concept through to even what we have today in technology.

Why lock myself to a 'static' and 'local' storage solution when I can use a centralized content space? Why would I ever want to have to PULL a card out of a phone to put content on it, ever?

This is why WiFi SD cards were invented, because camera users hated having to pull out the card just to upload content, when it could be done over WiFI - Which is a feature WP7 has supported going back to Windows Mobile 2002 and ZuneHD.

People coming from Android and iPhones don't grasp this, as the concept of seamless WiFi Syncing is new to iPhone and painful to impossible on Android.

Even the 16gb 'local' storage of the phone should become more and more irrelevant to users, as they have access to their data via the cloud or home PC via WiFI and Cellular network access.

People can already play their music from their home PC without ever having to load the music on the phone, and as connectivity becomes seamless (no dead data areas), why would anyone need to have the data loaded locally on the phone itself, ever?

This is a transition, but Microsoft has the concept right and headed towards the future, and they will let OEMs do removable SD cards, even as external storage, but there is little reason to ever do this, even if you have a 8gb phone and have 100gb of videos and music, you should always be able to play anything from anywhere.

Something to think about with a bit of a new spin...

dotf said,

Well I would say it's the same reason drive extender was removed from Windows Home Server.
Once the updated NT Kernel hits the phone, we can have storage spaces, so more companies will opt to include SD slots.

Ok, NT kernel has nothing to do with how or why the SD cards are not installed by OEMs. It has to do with security aka (S.D. Card), and the 'extendible' storage space of Home Server removal was stupid, as it was 'too soon' waiting on Cloud and the new partition technologies of Windows 8 to fix the issue for users. In fact Windows 2008 Home Server has the 'technical' skills to extend space and mirror it, but broke some 3rd party tools, and thus is not encouraged.

WinCE (the kernel) in WP7 can currently support external media, and lots of it, rather easily. It can even 'extend' the storage space seamlessly.

The problem... WP7 is 'secure' and uses the security of the SD Card, so once a new SD card is plugged into the phone, it is locked to that phone forever without a 'delock and erasing of data'. So you could have internal memory and several SD card slots on a WP7 phone, but using the base storage, it would all be secured/encrypted, and not usable outside of the phone.

OEMs could offer an 'external' storage area on WP7, that would not be 'secured', but it would offer little functionality over a user or Application accessing SkyDrive for content. Which seems silly when Microsoft is giving ya unlimited picture and document storage to waste space on an SD card, just so you can move it between your PC and your phone.

Android is highly limited by removable SD cards, from the security issues, to several OS technical details the user is cheated out of for perfomance. And how many users really ever rip the SD card out of their Android phone? Only when they upgrade it to a larger size usually, so buy the size you want in the first place, and use your PC with Syncing and WiFi access and SkyDrive and stop limiting yourself to a SD Card that offers nothing you don't already have.

Again, let me stress... The NT kernel has NOTHING to do with this, as WinCE already has the storage features and technology to provide this, just as WinCE has been providing for 14 years. NT will offer more 'features' to the core OS, like 1000 times, but this really isn't one of them that can't already be done.

thenetavenger said,

Windows Phones CAN have SD slots... However, WP7 uses the technology as planned, and this created more confusion from goofs that it was worth to OEMs.

SD cards are SECURE Digital Flash cards. WP7 turns on this security, thus making the card NOT readable on anything but the original phone it was installed in. You could have several SD cards and WP7 would recognize them as 'extended' space. However outside of the phone they become unusable because the SD (Secure) is used.

WP7 could offer a local 'isolated' storage area for offloading content, but OEMs have not wanted the expense of an 'additional' microSD interface on the phones and in effect offers NO functionality that SkyDrive already provides and is a better overall solution now that the SkyDrive API sets are available to developers.

It's not just that (although it does make the card secure). The biggest reason why they don't support it as "removable" is that Microsoft designed Windows Phone to format and treat both the phones internal memory and the SD card as a single file system - not as two separate file-systems. Ergo, removing the SD card is basically like trying to break a hard drive in half - you're removing part of the actual filesystem - so it's just not going to work (and is why Windows Phone requires a re-format everytime you add / remove an SD card - its file system is "broken" / incomplete).

It's an decent system in theory as it allows you to "extend" the phones internal memory, without having the "issues" of removable storage and having to juggle phone and application content between internal and external memory - it just maps it as one big memory pool. But consumers just aren;t used to treating SD cards like that.

JSYOUNG571 said,

A troll is someone like you who sits an scans people comments on line all day. If someone disagrees with something, you are not intelligent enough to agree to disagree with someone without calling them names. I actually feel sorry for you, you are a victim of our education system that passed you and allowed you to go out into the world full of ignorance.

I don't care about your caricatural view on me and the definition of a troll while completely ignoring your own previous comment, but you were still a troll for stating 'outdated specs' and 'late to the party' when those are just obviously wrong.

Edited by Cøi, Jan 26 2012, 3:11pm :

Hopefully consumers will wake up and see that this will be better for them than an iphone and to a lesser extent the Galaxy S 2 and purchase this wonderful piece of innovation.

oh man, pleeeeeease tell me that means it will be $399 out of contract. I was really hoping not to pay iPhone prices for this thing, but wasnt counting on it.

MikeInBA said,
oh man, pleeeeeease tell me that means it will be $399 out of contract. I was really hoping not to pay iPhone prices for this thing, but wasnt counting on it.

i wouldnt count on it.. considering it was a special agreement with AT&T.. off contract i would expect 599 or 499 if you lucky..

Lachlan said,

i wouldnt count on it.. considering it was a special agreement with AT&T.. off contract i would expect 599 or 499 if you lucky..

An unlocked Nokia 800 is nearly $800...the 900 will like be more, especially unlocked. I too hope its about $599. But I want an unlocked one, bec I will use with T-Mobile.

'$99.99 on a two-year contract'

Any phone can be this price or free depending on the price of the monthly contract payments.

You are correct in pointing that out. The fact that you are on a two year contract is something to consider with the price of the phone. However, this is common place for smartphones and $99 is a really good two-year contract price for any new release.

Also, the major providers (AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint) do not adjust their monthly rates based on subsidization price like they do in other parts of the world. The monthly cost is determined by your plan and that alone. Subsidization just locks you into a contract with the provider for so many years. In other words, if you go out and buy the Nokia Lumia 900 w/o a 2-year contract your month-to-month cost on any plan in the USA would be the same as if you did purchase the phone with a 2-year contract.

The 2-year contract isn't that big of a deal to me for those reasons. If you have the hardware you need the service for the hardware to be usable. I don't foresee going w/o a phone number in the next 20 years nevermind the next 2...

kravex said,
'$99.99 on a two-year contract'

Any phone can be this price or free depending on the price of the monthly contract payments.

Actually, it depends on how much the carrier is willing to subsidize on the cost. Likely Nokia worked a deal with ATT to sub more of the cost.

Shadrack said,
You are correct in pointing that out. The fact that you are on a two year contract is something to consider with the price of the phone. However, this is common place for smartphones and $99 is a really good two-year contract price for any new release.

Also, the major providers (AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint) do not adjust their monthly rates based on subsidization price like they do in other parts of the world. The monthly cost is determined by your plan and that alone. Subsidization just locks you into a contract with the provider for so many years. In other words, if you go out and buy the Nokia Lumia 900 w/o a 2-year contract your month-to-month cost on any plan in the USA would be the same as if you did purchase the phone with a 2-year contract.

The 2-year contract isn't that big of a deal to me for those reasons. If you have the hardware you need the service for the hardware to be usable. I don't foresee going w/o a phone number in the next 20 years nevermind the next 2...

There is another very important aspect to consider:
Subsidized devices in US are locked to the carrier; in most of European Countries phones must be SIM free/ Unlocked even if they are subsidized.
This is like when Apple tried to stick with one year warranty for its products in Europe too but there the law requires two years warranty and Apple had to play along.

Palpatine said,
I would rather trust Paul Thurrott than some Canouna from an unknown forum.

It comes down to personal opinions but I would choose Canouna over the other guy without hesitations.
Btw the former is well known in the smartphones community.

You understand that even if you pay 100 euro a month you still have to pay this additional amont money when you get a new telephone - be it $99 or $199? You understand that you always have to sign a two year contract? And you also understand that the phone is never really yours - they will never give you the unlock codes?

Believe me the Netherlands is far ahaed of the US market when it comes to mobile phones.

Neobond said,
Wow, wish The Netherlands weren't so backward in new devices and pricing!

So for whatever reason you think paying €0 in combination with a two-year contract here in the Netherlands is backwards compared to paying $99 with a two-year contract in the United States? Not sure I follow that train of thought.

To clarify: Hi/KPN offers the Nokia Lumia 800 for €79,95 in combination with a one-year contract. €0 (free) with a fairly cheap two-year contract. I'm certain the Nokia Lumia 900 will get a similar treatment once its released.

Honestly, you need to do some serious research because you're completely misguided when it comes to this.

Edited by .Neo, Jan 26 2012, 3:56pm :