Nokia Lumia EOS device will have 41 megapixel camera, coming July 9th

It is widely known that Nokia have the best camera technology of all Windows Phone device manufactures, and possibly of all phone manufactures. The Nokia 808 PureView currently holds the record for most megapixels stuffed into a phone, and that tech seems to be coming to the Lumia range. 

Mobile Geeks report that Nokia is preparing a 41 megapixel EOS Lumia device that will be released on July 9th. The report comes after WMPowerUser broke the news that Nokia was preparing such a device, but today's leak gives us more detail. At the launch event for the Nokia Lumia 925, the Finnish phone giant revealed that they had another device planned for release this summer, and this could be it. 

According to the report, photographs can be taken at 34 megapixel, just like the 808 PureView. The camera will also be able to shoot full 1080p or 720p video, with a choice of three different frame rates each. Nokia has also reportedly revamped the camera interface, introducing a "dial" which can be flicked to choose different settings, and will be called Nokia ProCamera. 

The phone that is attached to the camera would sport a 720p (1280x720) 4.5-inch screen, possibly due to software limitations from Microsoft. Of course, Windows Phone 8.1 could introduce Windows Phone support for full HD screens, and Nokia would likely get a head start. 

Those who are worried about size, fear not. Leaked images of the Lumia 925 showed a large "hump" on the back, and Nokia has worked hard to remove that with the upcoming Lumia EOS device. According to Mobile Geeks, Nokia has designed the phone to "aper towards its extremities supposedly masks the entire girth of the sensor."

Source: Mobile Geeks

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I hope this is true, I've been waiting to jump ship to Windows Phone. I loved the quality of my 808's pictures, and seeing how the WP ecosystem continues to improve, this will be a winner for me

They'd better wait and release the phone with Windows Phone "Blue" and pack all the rumored new features (1080p display, quad core chip, 2GB RAM etc) along with the 41MP PureView camera... We don't need another variant of 920 so quickly after the 925 announcement.

Pi.X.el said,
They'd better wait and release the phone with Windows Phone "Blue" and pack all the rumored new features (1080p display, quad core chip, 2GB RAM etc) along with the 41MP PureView camera... We don't need another variant of 920 so quickly after the 925 announcement.
I've been saying all along that Nokia seems to want to go down the Android route by releasing so many phones with so many model numbers. This confuses a lot of new customers because even the employees at Verizon and AT&T can't explain the different models. I would like to have seen Nokia release one top end model and one low end model, while releasing new phones maybe every 9-12 months.

Well it hasn't exactly hurt the growth of Android, so maybe it's not such a bad policy...

You and me, or let's say more knowledgeable people, can wait til more substantial flagship releases. So yeah, can ignore the incremental changes - and anyway, most people wait at least a year to upgrade so how does it hurt to have more options/phones in the market for everyone else? Sure it can look confusing, but in reality you go into a shop, you have a couple of options at your price range and you go for that. The more the merrier and it gives me an option over a cheap Android device.

So yeah when the EOS comes out I'll decide if that's good enough to upgrade over my 920 or whether I want to wait another 6 months for a "blue" version of the phone.

This has BS written all over it. Windows Phone hardware supports up to 20 MPx sensors and does not support adding processors which would offload this from the used SoC. Next gen SoC may support either or both but that is currently unknown.

Personally I would expect EOS to initially be current gen hardware so 20MPx max, then the next gen will go larger. I would guess Nokia will be able to pack this into a phone not much different in design as the 925 which may in fact well be a test case to see how the design would be received by the public.

paulheu said,
This has BS written all over it. Windows Phone hardware supports up to 20 MPx sensors and does not support adding processors which would offload this from the used SoC. Next gen SoC may support either or both but that is currently unknown.

Personally I would expect EOS to initially be current gen hardware so 20MPx max, then the next gen will go larger. I would guess Nokia will be able to pack this into a phone not much different in design as the 925 which may in fact well be a test case to see how the design would be received by the public.

maybe not, as the pictures that are sent to the OS wouldn't be the high pixel density, but would have already been extrapolated into a standard sized image using the extra pixel info to make each resulting pixel far more accurate.

duddit2 said,

maybe not, as the pictures that are sent to the OS wouldn't be the high pixel density, but would have already been extrapolated into a standard sized image using the extra pixel info to make each resulting pixel far more accurate.


You'd need hardware to handle the data from the 41MP sensor. What he is saying is the current SOC can't handle that much data while some of the newest Snapdragons can. 808 PureView has a powerful custom GPU that is processing more than 1 billion pixels per second from the sensor.

41 Megapixels? Seriously? What about a high-end analog zoom lens instead instead of digital zoom? If you are going to call it a camera it should have a proper zoom lens.

All the purpose of these 41MP is that the software can choose the best pixels to make the best picture possible. Read reviews about the Nokia 808 to learn more.

If Nokia will prove it possible to add OIS to the lens system than.... whoa!

Yogurtmaster said,
41 Megapixels? Seriously? What about a high-end analog zoom lens instead instead of digital zoom? If you are going to call it a camera it should have a proper zoom lens.

Seriously, you still don't understand how the EOS high pixel counts work, after everything that's been written about the tech?

Quick version: it takes normal density pictures (5-8MP) by using a very high pixel count sensor and extrapolates the data from numerous pixels to make super pixels (where the accuracy is far higher due to the capture of more info being condensed into the one pixel).

I'll see if I can find the blind test I seen, which shown the pureview device took better pics than a current four thirds camera (as voted by the people taking part in the blind test using around 10 different images) .

Here we have it: http://www.gsmarena.com/pureview_blind_test-review-773.php

Edited by duddit2, May 23 2013, 8:01am :

Not this again. Were you living under a rock? Read upon the 808 PureView and what all capabilities it provides. You can choose between supersampled crisper photos or use zoom. The zoom levels Nokia offer are well within the range of detail the sensor has and not like other manufacturers who just blow up the image.

I have a question. Does it offer the same quality as my 20x analog zoom SLR like camera? That is what I am talking about, because if it can do that, then I need to get me one.

Does your 20x analog zoom dslr connect the internet - have a big touchscreen and support LTE as well as a browser and phone abilities? if yes - i need to get one

I already have one of those, it's called a mobile computer.

I was asking because I want to give up my DSLR and just use a phone for a camera, but if it can't do 20x and I can't zoom in on a subject then I will just my phone as a phone.

Yogurtmaster said,
41 Megapixels? Seriously? What about a high-end analog zoom lens instead instead of digital zoom? If you are going to call it a camera it should have a proper zoom lens.

have u been living under rock all this time? Nokia 808 PureView is out since more than 1 year and currently held the best smartphone camera's title

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIDJEuE018U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YdhR8Px_dY

please see video above to see the capabilities of the so-called 41MP camera sensor

Yogurtmaster said,
I was asking because I want to give up my DSLR and just use a phone for a camera, but if it can't do 20x and I can't zoom in on a subject then I will just my phone as a phone.
You will be dissapointed. There is a reason why the lens on your camera is that big and it is very difficult to find ways around the laws of physics. You need a certain size to be able to provide that level of magnification, whilst still getting enough light in to make a picture on the sensor.
If you were to get a phone with a 20X zoom lens it would never fit in your pocket, barring some utterly amazing breakthrough in the field of optics that surpassed any jump that there's been since Isaac Newton created the field.