Nokia paying developers to make Windows Phone 7 apps

Nokia is going all out to make sure that its upcoming Windows Phone 7 smartphones are well supported by applications. CNN reports via unnamed sources that Nokia is taking several steps to make this happen including putting up advanced funding for developers to make apps for its smartphones. Nokia also reportedly plans to pre-install some of these apps on its Windows Phone 7 devices and will heavily promote those app creations. While Microsoft would not comment, a Nokia spokesperson did admit that it offers some programming help and marketing to app developers, but added, "We do not disclose these arrangements, as each is different."

The article also states that the first Nokia-made Windows Phone 7 device, code named Sea Ray, is currently being field tested by Nokia executives. No mention was made of the phone's hardware features. Nokia has said repeatedly that it plans to ship its first WP7-based product before the end of 2011.

The article also discusses how Microsoft has offered developers money in the past to make apps for the Windows Phone 7 operating system. While some development teams accepted the offer, others have declined Microsoft's deal, saying that they didn't want to waste time working on projects that would ultimately prove not to be a sales success. Nokia's new app funding offer has also run into similar roadblocks from developers. One such app creator who made a deal with Microsoft to make a WP7 app was disappointed with the end result, saying, "It was kind of a horrible experience. The whole thing was just a complete mess. I had to get on the phone with Microsoft just to get my app published."

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Problem with WP7 isn't the platform at all. It's the fact that no one really knows it even exists as a choice of smartphones!!! Futureshop and Best Buy in Canada never has ONE wp7 unit shown in their weekly flyer.

alot idiots and trolls... what a surprise /s

people who talk like if they were developers and probably havent even used a WP7 but still talk about it, like if they knew what they are talking about

but oh well...

its nice to know Nokia moving their butts to get apps people might whine and cry over, you know these people that act like if a phone isn't worth it because it doesn't have 1 app. even though there could be similar apps they just want the one with the name they want.
so its good if Nokia can accelerte the process and then cover the top used apps so there wont be a "i didn't find x app"

EmilyTheStrange said,
alot idiots and trolls... what a surprise /s

people who talk like if they were developers and probably havent even used a WP7 but still talk about it, like if they knew what they are talking about

but oh well...

its nice to know Nokia moving their butts to get apps people might whine and cry over, you know these people that act like if a phone isn't worth it because it doesn't have 1 app. even though there could be similar apps they just want the one with the name they want.
so its good if Nokia can accelerte the process and then cover the top used apps so there wont be a "i didn't find x app"

Then, can they allow to publish an application to free?.

Nokia and Microsoft seem desperate. I believe if developers aren't attracted to the platform naturally (like Android and iOS) then the platform is a failure. I think Nokia made a mistake for going WP7 and they will soon realize this even if they don't admit it. They should have gone Android. So many users world wide, so many apps and they could have made an awesome UI and Apple would not dare to touch them.

Edited by rwx, Oct 1 2011, 7:48am :

rwx said,
Nokia and Microsoft seem desperate. I believe if developers aren't attracted to the platform naturally (like Android and iOS) then the platform is a failure. I think Nokia made a mistake for going WP7 and they will soon realize this even if they don't admit it. They should have gone Android. So many users world wide, so many apps and they could have made an awesome UI and Apple would not dare to touch them.

Do you think Google never paid their developpers?

rwx said,
Nokia and Microsoft seem desperate. I believe if developers aren't attracted to the platform naturally (like Android and iOS) then the platform is a failure. I think Nokia made a mistake for going WP7 and they will soon realize this even if they don't admit it. They should have gone Android. So many users world wide, so many apps and they could have made an awesome UI and Apple would not dare to touch them.

Tell me how the HELL Nokia would have differentiated themselves by using android? Oh wow, skinning Android, an already fragmented and miss guided O.S would have been better? As far as i see, WP7 is faster, smoother and has actual guidance unlike free for all android that has hundreds of code bases. WTF could Nokia have possibly POTENTIALLY offered in the android market that one of the other OEMS hasn't already offered. . At the end of the day what needs to happen is physical differentiation, hardware. As in build quality.

nanoware said,

Tell me how the HELL Nokia would have differentiated themselves by using android? Oh wow, skinning Android, an already fragmented and miss guided O.S would have been better? As far as i see, WP7 is faster, smoother and has actual guidance unlike free for all android that has hundreds of code bases. WTF could Nokia have possibly POTENTIALLY offered in the android market that one of the other OEMS hasn't already offered. . At the end of the day what needs to happen is physical differentiation, hardware. As in build quality.

If all the apps on the phones are the same then who cares? Users want apps Android has more. Nokia could have leveraged that huge app catalogue while making a UI as good as Windows Phone 7 on top.

This is basically what Microsoft are doing. Take the sauce that makes other Smart Phone OS's successful (Applications, App Store, Ease of use) and slap a unique user interface on the top.

Nokia went from being an innovator with Symbian and Meego to a follower and bottom feeder with Windows Phone 7. And they still have yet to even launch a phone.

Vice said,

WTF could Nokia have possibly POTENTIALLY offered in the android market that one of the other OEMS hasn't already offered.

Ok ask yourself the same question but for WP7 instead? How will Nokia be different than any other manufacturer? All of the WP7 phones look and function exactly the same? Why would I choose Nokia over say, HTC? HTC makes better looking phones anyway! (My opinion of course) Another question, would would I choose Nokia over Samsung? WP7 looks the same across all manufacturers. This only shows all MS cares is money. They just want to put WP7 to as many devices as possible, they want to force it onto us. I can't tell one WP7 device from the other. They ALL look the same! They are *boring!*.

If Nokia went with Android, they could have created their own desktop and that way they would have differentiated themselves from other manufacturers just like (as I said) those same manufacturers differentiate themselves by creating custom UIs - not necessarily ROMs. Fragmentation is an issue but not a big issue. I am SURE fragmentation would not have stopped Nokia from succeeding with Android. The fragmentation is just an excuse...


Vice said,

Nokia went from being an innovator with Symbian and Meego to a follower and bottom feeder with Windows Phone 7. And they still have yet to even launch a phone.

Yeah a real innovator indeed! So much so their innovations made their marketshare plunge like crazy since the iphone was introduced and then Android.

Let's face reality Nokia was going nowhere . It had two options choose Android or choose Windows phone. But whether they made the correct choice remains to be seen.

rwx said,

Ok ask yourself the same question but for WP7 instead? How will Nokia be different than any other manufacturer? All of the WP7 phones look and function exactly the same? Why would I choose Nokia over say, HTC? HTC makes better looking phones anyway! (My opinion of course) Another question, would would I choose Nokia over Samsung? WP7 looks the same across all manufacturers.

*Boring* boils down to personal preference. IMO WP7's UI is more logical and well thought out. And the fact the WPs function the same irrespective of the manufacturer is a plus

*However* manufacturers can differentiate themselves with unique hardware capabilities, software and services. It's effectively a middle ground between the Android model and the Iphone model. It's a win-win scenario for both the consumer and the manufacturers .I see nothing wrong here. We don't want another Android or another Iphone do we? If WP is not for you It's ok


rwx said,

This only shows all MS cares is money. They just want to put WP7 to as many devices as possible, they want to force it onto us. I can't tell one WP7 device from the other. They ALL look the same! They are *boring!*.

Of course they care only about the money! Microsoft is a buisness not a charity. So is Google and Apple. Google would 'Love' to have Android everywhere ; on your phone,in your TV,in your House, in your Car etc;


gawicks said,

Yeah a real innovator indeed! So much so their innovations made their marketshare plunge like crazy since the iphone was introduced and then Android.

Let's face reality Nokia was going nowhere . It had two options choose Android or choose Windows phone. But whether they made the correct choice remains to be seen.

They didn't need to make that choice. They could have simply offered both Android and Windows Phone 7. Like their competitors HTC, Samsung, LG and so on. Nokia ****ed up.

Muhammad Farrukh said,
This is what we call 'Mutual Cooperation'

Some might call it mutually assured destruction With all Nokia's eggs in Microsoft's basket, the inevitable failure of WP7 will send the company into receivership.

great. bad enough we have new laptops filled with bloatwares. now we have new smartphones filled with garbages.

Albert said,
great. bad enough we have new laptops filled with bloatwares. now we have new smartphones filled with garbages.

OEM and carriers are only allowed a certain number of apps that can be preinstalled in WP7 and you can uninstall them all, unlike another platform...

wixostrix said,

OEM and carriers are only allowed a certain number of apps that can be preinstalled in WP7 and you can uninstall them all, unlike another platform...

At least not for Android, exist application that can't be uninstalled.

I'll write apps for Nokia if they pay me! I only have 1 simple app on the app store right now, but it's got a 4 1/2 star average, out of 11 ratings. Can I can I can I?

greenwizard88 said,
I'll write apps for Nokia if they pay me! I only have 1 simple app on the app store right now, but it's got a 4 1/2 star average, out of 11 ratings. Can I can I can I?

really? what is your App?

Hopefully windows phones with this nokia pre-loaded software will be uninstall-able I would hate to have friends experience the same problem (needing root) to remove the bloatware. Also hopefully the software is good, to where you dont wish to uninstall it

Nexus- said,
Hopefully windows phones with this nokia pre-loaded software will be uninstall-able I would hate to have friends experience the same problem (needing root) to remove the bloatware. Also hopefully the software is good, to where you dont wish to uninstall it

While Nokia is free to do as they wish with the platform, they stated they don't want to really change the overall experience. I'm sure the apps will be uninstallable.

wixostrix said,

While Nokia is free to do as they wish with the platform, they stated they don't want to really change the overall experience. I'm sure the apps will be uninstallable.

Didn't they say they wanted to differentiate themselves? How can differentiate themselves if they don't make any changes? All WP7 phones look the same with that boring UI. In fact most of Android devices look different! "All Android devices look, act the same?" That is so wrong! Does HTC Sense look and work the same as TouchWiz UI and stock Android? Do they look the same with Honey Comb? How about Motoblur? How about all the different launchers such as Go Launcher EX, ADW etc... Of course not!


rwx said,

Didn't they say they wanted to differentiate themselves? How can differentiate themselves if they don't make any changes? All WP7 phones look the same with that boring UI. In fact most of Android devices look different! "All Android devices look, act the same?" That is so wrong! Does HTC Sense look and work the same as TouchWiz UI and stock Android? Do they look the same with Honey Comb? How about Motoblur? How about all the different launchers such as Go Launcher EX, ADW etc... Of course not!


They do it with custom Apps and Hubs like HTC did. HTC is more about functionality and pretty, which is why WP7 is now their 'darling', go see other recent articles about HTC.

As for HTC Sense, you do realize is comes from HTC TouchFLO and TouchFLO 3D, that was originally developed for the Windows Mobile/PocketPC phones, right?

So the HTC example is kind of sad... As for looking the same as Android and HonyComb, hmm... Sort of, just like other HTC phones, except there are more features in WP7 graphically, so HTC really likes not having to make a freaking custom OS ROM just to make them work, and can go back to the Windows Mobile/PocketPC days of creating Apps.

Boring UI? Wow, you really haven't used one. There is also beauty to Metro, and graphic designers get why, and people just like it.

thenetavenger said,

Boring UI? Wow, you really haven't used one. There is also beauty to Metro, and graphic designers get why, and people just like it.

I am sorry, I really don't know how you and other people can like Windows Phone 7's interface as well as the OS itself. I cannot stand it (and this includes Windows 8). I really can't. I guess that only proves everyone has different tastes, nothing wrong with it, just different preference. I like having beautiful, semi-transparent and functional widgets on my home screen. Beautiful looking weather and clock widgets, widgets that turn on and off functions such as wireless, GPS, calendars, Bluetooth...I like having fully featured file managers on my phone. I like how I can plug in my phone and it appears as a flash drive where I can treat it as it so I can copy files such as MP3 files onto my SDCARD as if it was a flash drive without using any additional software such as iTunes. I like media player widgets on my home screens and how I can rearrange home screens....I like I can replace the desktops etc...You see? This is what I personally like about Android.

Please tell me what you like so much about WP7?

As for HTC Sense, you do realize is comes from HTC TouchFLO and TouchFLO 3D, that was originally developed for the Windows Mobile/PocketPC phones, right?

Ok you got me with that one, I agree with you, it was indeed TouchFLO 3D.

With Microsoft and now Nokia extending all the help one could ever need, there is no reason for people making applications for the other platforms not to take advantage of a growing and potentially very large market.

dtboos said,
With Microsoft and now Nokia extending all the help one could ever need, there is no reason for people making applications for the other platforms not to take advantage of a growing and potentially very large market.

Growing ? you mean diminishing. If you have to buy developers your future doesn't look bright.

alexalex said,

Growing ? you mean diminishing. If you have to buy developers your future doesn't look bright.

It's a catalyst. The reaction will eventually happens, but it needs to happen faster.

alexalex said,

Growing ? you mean diminishing. If you have to buy developers your future doesn't look bright.

lol.. 0 to 30,000 is pretty good after 1 year.. google android had only 10,000 after its first year and that was with 12 phones being released. And dont tell me that microsoft has a different situation.. every OS goes through a phase where the amount of apps depends on how confident people are in that OS of being sucessful.. WP7 app store will have some huge growth now that mango is out and especially when all the new phones are released.

http://gigaom.com/2009/10/26/w...e-an-android-app-boom-soon/

Lachlan said,

lol.. 0 to 30,000 is pretty good after 1 year

It doesn't matter if it has 1billion apps, if no one's buying the phone, then it's never going to succeed. Not only that, but the good apps and developers wont touch the platform with a bargepole. So you're just left with 30k fart apps and duplicate junk.


Android had no previous customer/developer base, nor did it have Microsoft's number of phone on launch or the advertising blitz, yet, Android was still doing better than WP7 after the same amount of time.

No matter how you try and portray WP7, the fact is, the numbers are very embarrassing for Microsoft.

And what is the actual user base? How many people are actually using WP7? Last time I checked, Bada devices outsold WP7. Doesn't that tell you something?

alexalex said,
Growing ? you mean diminishing. If you have to buy developers your future doesn't look bright.

Everyone does that, y'know.

rwx said,
And what is the actual user base? How many people are actually using WP7? Last time I checked, Bada devices outsold WP7. Doesn't that tell you something?

A few million phones sold on Microsoft's part is nothing to shy away from. Its hardly nothing

rwx said,
And what is the actual user base? How many people are actually using WP7? Last time I checked, Bada devices outsold WP7. Doesn't that tell you something?

Hmm, what would you rather use WP7 or Bada?

dtboos said,
With Microsoft and now Nokia extending all the help one could ever need, there is no reason for people making applications for the other platforms not to take advantage of a growing and potentially very large market.

Correct, maybe in a couple of years WP7/X will be up there challenging Android and Apple in the smartphone arena.

Ishanx said,

Hmm, what would you rather use WP7 or Bada?

Between Bada 2.0 and WP7? Neither

However I prefer Bada because it's similar to Android and its (Bada's) API is very logical.

Ishanx said,

Hmm, what would you rather use WP7 or Bada?


i would use windows phone 7 over iphone and andriod infact im using it right now