Nokia pits the Lumia 925 camera against the iPhone 5, Galaxy S4 and more

Nokia revealed the new Lumia 925 smartphone earlier this week and today the company decided to go after its main competition when it comes to comparing smartphone camera images in low light conditions. The smackdown began on the company's Facebook page today with a split screen image showing how a picture taken from the Lumia 925 looks side by side with Samsung's Galaxy S4.

The Facebook post links to a new Nokia blog story that shows how the same "tea for two" scene looks when the Lumia 925's images are compared to ones made with the iPhone 5, the HTC One, the Sony Xperia Z, and the Samsung Galaxy S4. The HTC One seems to be the closest to the Lumia 925 in terms of offering better lighting but even its image is still darker than the one taken with the PureView camera of the Lumia. All of the other smartphone images are much darker.

Nokia's blog post states that all of the images were taken using the automatic camera settings in the smartphones. It added, "We’ve avoided the temptation to make comments, but we think that the differences are pretty striking." The 4.5-inch Lumia 925 will have an 8.7 megepixel camera and the new Smart Cam app for additional image effects. It's due out in June in Europe and the US.

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Not this sh*t again!.

First, we have some photos without any reference of what is the real picture.
Second, we don't know if some photo was manipulated or not.
Third, we have some specific scene (not different scene such sunlight, lowdim, landscape and such).
And fourth, we have some arbitrary rules :the photo should be taken using the value by default.

For example:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/9...review-camera-hi-res-photos

Where galaxy is clearly inferior to Lumia but it is similar to lumia in night mode.

So? Even if it's manipulated, in real life usage it's a fact that the cameras in the Lumias 920/925/928 are the best in the market.

So get over it, all you skeptics are behaving just like fanboys.

i have a htc one and my wife has a 920 and my phone crushes it in low light that above picture looks like it has a filter on it

(Spork) said,
i have a htc one and my wife has a 920 and my phone crushes it in low light that above picture looks like it has a filter on it

Turn the flash off, and I bet the Lumia 920 wins.

the Lumia camera is better than any other smartphone camera i've seen to date. other than the PureView of course.

this i see as a great step towards bringing more users towards wp because it will take a hold of all those Facebookers, Instagrammers and Twitterers. + I also see a better camera being synonomous w/ western girls and their need to take pictures EVERYWHERE.

I really don't understand this competition of having the best camera on a cell phone. It's great for quick pics, but when I know we are going somewhere in the outdoors, parties, ECT, I always have my Nikon within an arms reach. Funny when I see parents shooting their kids graduation with a cell phone. Special occasions should be caught with a real camera.

do you carry your 42" tv around with you wherever you go also or do you think your phone/tablet can play a video good enough that you don't need the extra device on you?
mobile cameras are getting to the point that the line is being blurred between what they can do and what a standalone camera can do. obviously it's not going to replace a canon 5d, but when you're at a casual night out, who wants to stand around and make sure their aperture and shutter are perfect?

wookietv said,
do you carry your 42" tv around with you wherever you go also or do you think your phone/tablet can play a video good enough that you don't need the extra device on you?
mobile cameras are getting to the point that the line is being blurred between what they can do and what a standalone camera can do. obviously it's not going to replace a canon 5d, but when you're at a casual night out, who wants to stand around and make sure their aperture and shutter are perfect?

When you have kids you'll understand why quality counts. Not everything can be solved with a cheap quick fix. Obviously Nokia is going after regular point and shoots but there are in NO way competing with ANY dslr on the market because of physics. DSLRs have big lenses and can capture more light. There is no way to solve that with a camera on a phone. Sorry to burst your fantasy bubble.

S7R1K3R said,

When you have kids you'll understand why quality counts. Not everything can be solved with a cheap quick fix. Obviously Nokia is going after regular point and shoots but there are in NO way competing with ANY dslr on the market because of physics. DSLRs have big lenses and can capture more light. There is no way to solve that with a camera on a phone. Sorry to burst your fantasy bubble.

Actually when you have kids, you have better things to worry about than carrying a top quality camera. Just saying, as I have a daughter too and the Lumia 920 is a vast improvement over the competition.

And another thing since we are talking about kids, you need a device that is on hand as you never know when you might want to take a quick snap/video.

Yes because if you have kids, you can only love pictures taken of them in the highest available quality otherwise it is worthless to you?
The 920 is more then plenty for casual pictures. Especially compared to the cr*p my friends call pictures taken with iPhone's or galaxy's.

Shadowzz said,
Yes because if you have kids, you can only love pictures taken of them in the highest available quality otherwise it is worthless to you?
The 920 is more then plenty for casual pictures. Especially compared to the cr*p my friends call pictures taken with iPhone's or galaxy's.

I am not saying either iphone or Samsung is better for photos because clearly the Lumia trumps them. What I am saying is that everything else is overlooked on this phone. Especially the ecosystem. But sure if you want a phone and a decent camera there is none better than the Lumia.

get over it Lumia 920 Proved everyone wrong and Lumia 925 will prove everyone wrong once again
when it comes to hardware Nokia is well known for high end quality

and this is still considering all the bashing the "blogers" did to Nokia when the 920 was released and yet they never updated their article to reflect the truth.

After the joke that is the 920, I'd take an SIII or 4S! I simply do not have any confidence in there QA or design abilities at this point. Of course they probably fixed all thats wrong with the 920 in the 925 and 928, but that doesn't do much for those of us that are stuck with a 920 till our contracts are up.

please tell me whats wrong with the 920. It takes way better pictures than all the other phones out there, the S3 probably takes better pics than the S4 and well iphone is iphone, not really good camera.

AR556 said,
After the joke that is the 920, I'd take an SIII or 4S! I simply do not have any confidence in there QA or design abilities at this point. Of course they probably fixed all thats wrong with the 920 in the 925 and 928, but that doesn't do much for those of us that are stuck with a 920 till our contracts are up.

I am honestly starting to believe that Samsung trolls really roam neowin much... because wow... just wow... you guys are trying too hard.

By the way I am going to call your bull**** since you have 30 days to return or exchange your phone. So if it was so bad why didn't you return it...

coderchi said,

I am honestly starting to believe that Samsung trolls really roam neowin much... because wow... just wow... you guys are trying too hard.

By the way I am going to call your bull**** since you have 30 days to return or exchange your phone. So if it was so bad why didn't you return it...

Here in Canada if you use the phone for more than 30 minutes you cannot return it anymore. So no there is no 30 day return policy.

Who gives a **** what bs you call? Dust under FFC, rapid/random battery drain for starters. Exchanged my first 920 due to random reboots and the other crap didn't happen till after the 14 day exchange period. Yes, 14 days is all I had to exchange, so you can **** off with your 30 day ****! These are not one-off defects and have been reported by many others. The 920 was a poorly-designed and rushed to market. Might as well have been a prototype.

AR556 said,
Who gives a **** what bs you call? Dust under FFC, rapid/random battery drain for starters. Exchanged my first 920 due to random reboots and the other crap didn't happen till after the 14 day exchange period. Yes, 14 days is all I had to exchange, so you can **** off with your 30 day ****! These are not one-off defects and have been reported by many others. The 920 was a poorly-designed and rushed to market. Might as well have been a prototype.

Soo...those problems only occurred on the 920...?

Anything that I don't like in a pic, I can edit and make it much better with software. I have a batch job setup to edit all my photos. No big deal for me. And if I want better pics, I will use my camera.

While that's true, sometimes you have those moments where the light is crappy and all you have is your phone. Have no fear, the 920/5/8 is here. The photos aren't without flaws but when you put them side by side with other phones there's hardly a comparison.

techbeck said,
Anything that I don't like in a pic, I can edit and make it much better with software. I have a batch job setup to edit all my photos. No big deal for me. And if I want better pics, I will use my camera.

So I'm getting you can de-blur pictures too? If you can, please send me that "batch job setup".

It's crazy how people downplay progress and innovation because its not coming from a company they might like.

laserfloyd said,
While that's true, sometimes you have those moments where the light is crappy and all you have is your phone. Have no fear, the 920/5/8 is here. The photos aren't without flaws but when you put them side by side with other phones there's hardly a comparison.

Never questioned the nokia quality. Said it doesnt matter to me since I know how to edit them. And I agree with the comparison comment. Nokia takes better pictures.

Edited by techbeck, May 16 2013, 9:10pm :

ctrl_alt_delete said,

So I'm getting you can de-blur pictures too? If you can, please send me that "batch job setup".

It's crazy how people downplay progress and innovation because its not coming from a company they might like.

I rarely take blurry photos and the minor photos that I take that are blurry, yes...you can sharpen them to make them look tons better with a few edits. And by batch job....I run a script and do several edits in seconds that will take me minutes to to manually. So yea, you an make blurry pictures sharper, or change the contrast/saturation/whatever else. People have been doing it for decades.

I dont know why the skeptic and comments here. I never once questioned Nokia or their image quality. I said it didnt matter TO ME since I know how to edit my photos.

Edited by techbeck, May 16 2013, 9:59pm :

ctrl_alt_delete said,

It's crazy how people downplay progress and innovation because its not coming from a company they might like.

Please do tell me how I down played anything here. I said what I USE and didnt say anything bad about Nokia. Seriously, learn how to read and understand before you post.

ctrl_alt_delete said,

So I'm getting you can de-blur pictures too? If you can, please send me that "batch job setup".

It's crazy how people downplay progress and innovation because its not coming from a company they might like.

Even a hobbyist photographer will keep a dedicated camera handy. The 900 line is good in a pinch but a dedicated camera will almost always take a better pic. No denying that Nokia has a great camera.

Now, what I really want to see is this EOS that's on the horizon. The 41mp PureView pics really wowed me. The device might end up ugly as sin but it'd still tempt me.

laserfloyd said,

Even a hobbyist photographer will keep a dedicated camera handy. The 900 line is good in a pinch but a dedicated camera will almost always take a better pic. No denying that Nokia has a great camera.

Now, what I really want to see is this EOS that's on the horizon. The 41mp PureView pics really wowed me. The device might end up ugly as sin but it'd still tempt me.

Dude! quit it and get it through your thick skull. People are not into having to edit a picture. after taking the shot. Anyone with talent can photoshop anything but regular folks are not into that nor do have the know how. Also when you take a picture in a dark area I would find it nearly impossible to edit if the shot was too dark and did not capture enough info. This is where Nokia comes in with their hardware and gives you a phone that can share your greatest and best pictures with a smartphone.

techbeck said,

Never questioned the nokia quality. Said it doesnt matter to me since I know how to edit them. And I agree with the comparison comment. Nokia takes better pictures.

I have my SLR with a bunch of lenses and my Lumia 920. I am a photography enthusiast and I end up taking more photos and videos with Lumia 920 (Focus before that) just because it is the camera I always have at hand.
This is obviously my own usage pattern but you don't always shoot and edit every photo you take (besides I like to take photos I don't have to edit ). Today's example? took my 19mo old daughter for a walk in the park and ended up with a bunch of amazing photos with Lumia 920.
Do not discount phone cameras - they are useful and any progress in their quality is a blessing for people like me.

As I said in another reply, there is no magic edit job that gets rid of the muddy dark areas and iso noise, you can at best reduce it at the cost of all detail in the photo.

And even then, you couldn't do that with a batch job either, each of those photos would ave to be individually treated with spot jobs on the bad areas to reduce the noise to a level where you have a decent point between less noise and still have some fine details left, while leaving the brighter areas untouched, and the people would have to be separately masked and color corrected from the rest.

a batch job that treats that photo would only make it worse.

HawkMan said,
As I said in another reply, there is no magic edit job that gets rid of the muddy dark areas and iso noise, you can at best reduce it at the cost of all detail in the photo.

True, but like I said before...I know how to take pics and never have that problem with all that extra noise in a pic. Was mainly commenting on color correction and making the images look sharper. I have little to no issues with blurry photos as well. I have a steady hand. And you can take great shots with a basic camera if you know what you are doing.

I use my phone camera very rarely and when I do, its normally in good lighting or just a quick snap of a network rack or something I really dont want to keep. If I am worried about taking a good pic, I will use my dedicated camera. This is what I use so a stellar camera phone is a non issue for me. For others, sure they want something great at all times on their hip and they may take more photos with their phone than I do. So in this case, they would prefer a better camera like what the Nokia's have.

techbeck said,

I rarely take blurry photos and the minor photos that I take that are blurry, yes...you can sharpen them to make them look tons better with a few edits. And by batch job....I run a script and do several edits in seconds that will take me minutes to to manually. So yea, you an make blurry pictures sharper, or change the contrast/saturation/whatever else. People have been doing it for decades.

I dont know why the skeptic and comments here. I never once questioned Nokia or their image quality. I said it didnt matter TO ME since I know how to edit my photos.

I understand you've never questioned the image quality on the Nokias...but, you are discounting the technology, based on your own personal reasons.

I also think you're missing the point of having a camera of this quality, in a device in which you can instantly share the image via a variety of outlets. That fact that you can take an image - without having to perform batch editing - is why Nokia is making a fuss over it. Your images will look "tons better" from the start, if shot using their technology. No need to edit: just point, shoot, and share.

And yes, you have your DSLR for those uber-quality photos; but, if you're sitting in the House of Blues, and want to take a photo of your friends at the bar, you'd be better off with a Lumia.

techbeck said,

True, but like I said before...I know how to take pics and never have that problem with all that extra noise in a pic. Was mainly commenting on color correction and making the images look sharper. I have little to no issues with blurry photos as well. I have a steady hand. And you can take great shots with a basic camera if you know what you are doing.

I use my phone camera very rarely and when I do, its normally in good lighting or just a quick snap of a network rack or something I really dont want to keep. If I am worried about taking a good pic, I will use my dedicated camera. This is what I use so a stellar camera phone is a non issue for me. For others, sure they want something great at all times on their hip and they may take more photos with their phone than I do. So in this case, they would prefer a better camera like what the Nokia's have.

Bu the thing is, in the situations I mentioned, you can't avoid getting low iso noise due to the darkness. unless you bring a high end camera, and even then you sometimes kind since you can't flahs, and flashes have their own issues. And as I said, most people don't drag their SLR around to those places. it doesn't make sense, and if you have a 902/925, then it often doesn't make sense bringing a P&S camera either.

HawkMan said,

Bu the thing is, in the situations I mentioned, you can't avoid getting low iso noise due to the darkness. unless you bring a high end camera, and even then you sometimes kind since you can't flahs, and flashes have their own issues. And as I said, most people don't drag their SLR around to those places. it doesn't make sense, and if you have a 902/925, then it often doesn't make sense bringing a P&S camera either.

I vary rarely take pics with my phone in low light. I said this. And if I do, its a quick pic I dont really care about. Like at work when I am taking pics of something out in the field that I later discard.

MrHistamine said,

I understand you've never questioned the image quality on the Nokias...but, you are discounting the technology, based on your own personal reasons.

No, just stating what I use the cameras for and giving my opinion. Not discounting anything.


I also think you're missing the point of having a camera of this quality, in a device in which you can instantly share the image via a variety of outlets.

I dont upload photos to FB, instagram, or anywhere else. They go on my computer. I then email them to whoever from there. from there. I never used instragram, and I dont upload personal pics to FB. I also do a lot of web browsing, email, and other tasks with my phone that I dont want the camera to drain the battery any more than is needed. Another reason I use a dedicated camera most of the time.


And yes, you have your DSLR for those uber-quality photos; but, if you're sitting in the House of Blues, and want to take a photo of your friends at the bar, you'd be better off with a Lumia.

I have a pretty decent point and shoot camera I use for those occasions. Fits perfectly in my pocket and still does a better job than the nokia.

And again, never knocked Nokia but a dedicated camera is still better and why I use them. Not discouting anything, just my opinion and what I use.

Really dont know what the big deal here is with comments and people questioning what I use and how I use it. This is how I do things and what I prefer and if others have different ways, great. What I do suits my needs. Whether or not that will change later on, who knows. And if it does, then I will worry about the phone camera then.

And on that note, I am done explaining my personal preference.

Edited by techbeck, May 17 2013, 7:01pm :

daniel_rh said,
I guess Nokia is going to end selling cameras instead of phones...

I have wondered why they havent made stand alone cameras yet!

coderchi said,
No, they are selling a smartphone that will soon replace most point and shoot cameras.

They already do? these 8MP camera's come at the high PPI we are getting acustomed too. I can make pictures and it looks clear as day, no jagged lines, no blur, everything sharp as it should be. Just the grain to work out, but in time.
Yes proper camera's are still far ahead, but Nokia makes that gap rather small. And for casual pictures, is more then enough for most people. I dont need a seperate camera

DBrandUSA said,
^ We get it guys, you are the usual skeptics. Nokia Lumias take awesome photos. Get over it.

No one is saying the Lumias take bad pictures, but do you really believe the S4 for instance takes such crappy ones in comparison? How much do you want to bet that if you were to take those exact same photos, the difference won't be *that* huge...

Obry said,

No one is saying the Lumias take bad pictures, but do you really believe the S4 for instance takes such crappy ones in comparison?

Out-of-the-box? Yes.

Yes the S4 does indeed take crappy pictures, probably worse than the S3. The apps and functions that it is supposed to have to give it all the bells and whistles that Samsung touts either kind of work or don't not function at all, couple that with cheap crappy plastic materials, I would take the Lumia over any phone out there.

Obry said,

No one is saying the Lumias take bad pictures, but do you really believe the S4 for instance takes such crappy ones in comparison? How much do you want to bet that if you were to take those exact same photos, the difference won't be *that* huge...

Wow you guys are pathetic and sore losers... The comparison is clear and Nokia is showing their advantage to their products compare to the competition. My wife owns a Lumia 920 and I have a 900 and I always take pictures with the 920 because it's abvious that it's better. Same goes with the S4, just because it's a new phone does not mean that they take better pictures.. This is part of Nokia's selling point with their hardware.

Haha, the 920 makes better pictures then normal camera's that are a few years old.
My parents have an older 8MP Sony camera, my 920 surely makes better pictures in any situation. The Sony has a proper flash too. Its shutter is the only thing thats faster.
920's shutter speed is quite slow and without steady hands you can easily blur the picture.

Hate to say it but although I love Nokia I too smell BS on this one. They already got burnt once with manipulating stuff like that....

Care to provide the proof that Nokia _ever_ claimed to have shot video using a specific phone when they did not. Are you sure you're not just parroting an ill-informed 'journalist' mistaken a technology concept video for a product feature video??

Legit. I own a 920 and I'm assuming the 925 is better. It takes very very good low light pics right out of the box without adjusting any settings. Now, the camera settings need love but that's another story...

techbeck said,
Nokia got caught producing simulated videos. This is well known. Not saying they did it here, but it happened.

The clue word in your statement there is "simulated". I can simulate the computer interface of the USS Enterprise on my PC, doesn't mean I have a Starship in orbit. I'm just demonstrating what that particular thing looks like. Nokia did no different, and never claimed that they did.

The word simulate alone indicates that what you are seeing is not a real deak, but one simulated to look like a real deal.

TCLN Ryster said,

The clue word in your statement there is "simulated". I can simulate the computer interface of the USS Enterprise on my PC, doesn't mean I have a Starship in orbit. I'm just demonstrating what that particular thing looks like. Nokia did no different, and never claimed that they did.

The word simulate alone indicates that what you are seeing is not a real deak, but one simulated to look like a real deal.

Yea, but Nokia didnt say simulated until someone said something. The real video was great so why the need to simulate the video. Their phones take great photos and using them to represent what they are selling should be the only way to do it.

And as far as I know...there is no way to build a real USS Enterprise so the only way is to simulate it. Bad comparison.

Edited by techbeck, May 16 2013, 9:01pm :

The Laughing Man said,
Smells like BS , especially coming from a Nokia forum. Not to mention the blatant horrid lighting quality and/or photo manipulation.

I can see why you'd say it smells like BS, because the picture look sooooo much better than the rest. But let's see how the reviews go then we'll talk then

The Laughing Man said,
Smells like BS , especially coming from a Nokia forum. Not to mention the blatant horrid lighting quality and/or photo manipulation.

Not true. The camera on the Lumia is totally legit. When your out in the evening with friends, theres basically no point in taking pictures with any other camera but the Lumia. Its night and day compared to the competion! No flash required.

Its simply that Nokia owns the tech full-stop.

The Laughing Man said,
Smells like BS , especially coming from a Nokia forum. Not to mention the blatant horrid lighting quality and/or photo manipulation.

The Lumia 920 already takes considerably better photos than the competition. Until the 925 it had the best phone camera. So how is this hard to believe?

The Laughing Man said,
Smells like BS , especially coming from a Nokia forum. Not to mention the blatant horrid lighting quality and/or photo manipulation.

i was in the pub with friends shortly after getting my 920, and i can absolutely reassure you that the camera is amazing. All my friends (all iphone 5 owners) were gob smacked at how good the pics were in the lowish pub lighting, so much so that 2 have moved to a 920.

edit, the ones that didn't switch didn't do so because they have far to many paid apps on iOS and that was the sole reason they gave, as they seemed very tempted.

this wasn't just the camera, the camera made them want to 'play'with the phone a little and they all loved the fluid OS, saying the adverts simply didn't do it justice and actually using it made a massive difference.

the horrid lighting is kind of the point, the horrid lighting is the same for both phones, yet the 925 still takes good photos without muddy noisy dark areas and orange tint.

And you can't fix muddy dark areas and iso noise with image manipulation, not without making the photos overly smooth.

sphbecker said,

Wow, interesting group of friends.


i know right? But yeah all have iPhones, some have had android phones in the past but all iphone owners at that point, 2 are now lumia converts.

sphbecker said,

Wow, interesting group of friends.


i know right? But yeah all have iPhones, some have had android phones in the past but all iphone owners at that point, 2 are now lumia converts.

I laugh when I see people attempting to take photos or especially video at bars/clubs/concerts that really look like crap (it's even funnier when they are cracked idevices or low-end Android handsets). The higher end Android devices do a much better job, but I know there is still an obvious difference when they ask how my photos look so much better than theirs.

All I'm saying is that since getting my Lumia 920, I don't find myself needing to delete and retake photos as often... and I definitely don't have to have my phone in the air for over a minute just trying to get one good photo.

so the next time I take a photo and comes out all dark and blury I'll say, "wow, what a great ecosystem"! instead of saying "yuck, what a POS camera".

pffff go home.

Camera phones are just for the odd picture here or there. If this is your main camera geez wait til you see pics taken by a Point and shoot or better yet.... a DSLR. I understand people don't want to carry multple devices but if photos were that IMPORTANT to you why even bother with a camera phone. And for the record I love Nokias focus to really excel in at least one area of a smartphone. I just wish they had a choice of OS instead of being bought out by MS. Also I had a Nokia 820 the first day it came out and returned it 3 hours later because of windows phone 8. I was also a user of windows mobile 5+ on pdas and a hp phone so I knew what I was expecting with MS and they did not disappoint.

Edited by S7R1K3R, May 16 2013, 7:45pm :

Chsoriano said,
All I'm saying is that since getting my Lumia 920, I don't find myself needing to delete and retake photos as often... and I definitely don't have to have my phone in the air for over a minute just trying to get one good photo.

Never had any problems taking pics with any camera. I have a steady hand and know what to shoot and how to shoot it. Anything else I need can be done via software so no big deal. I have several batch jobs setup that will automatically edit my photos how I want.

That's weird. I didn't know people still walk around with point and shoot/dslr cameras where ever they go. I certainly don't.
It would be kind of stupid for me to pull out a point and shoot or dslr just to take a pic of my girl doing something cute or sexy.
And "marginally better" you must need a new pair of eyes or something.

S7R1K3R said,
Camera phones are just for the odd picture here or there. If this is your main camera geez wait til you see pics taken by a Point and shoot or better yet.... a DSLR. I understand people don't want to carry multple devices but if photos were that IMPORTANT to you why even bother with a camera phone. And for the record I love Nokias focus to really excel in at least one area of a smartphone. I just wish they had a choice of OS instead of being bought out by MS. Also I had a Nokia 820 the first day it came out and returned it 3 hours later because of windows phone 8. I was also a user of windows mobile 5+ on pdas and a hp phone so I knew what I was expecting with MS and they did not disappoint.

The camera is only as good as the one you have with you when you take the picture.
I carry my low budget LG windows phone, yet there are 100's of pictures I've taken with it as it was the only camera I had with me, and I usually take at least a bridge camera in the car. For many people this probably isn't the case and unless they know before hand they need a camera, they probably aren't going to lug one around with them.
Unless you're a professional photographer who happens to keep their best camera out of it's protective case and around their neck at any given moment.. but even then, unless you setup a DLSR with the correct settings, monitor the light etc, you can and usually will end up with a worse picture then a half decent point and shoot camera. The pureview technology here that Nokia is offering IS replacing the half decent point and shoot cameras now and since most people carry a phone with them having a decent camera function is a great boost... unfortunately, with all the great pictures the pureview technology is going to give people, they'll still insist on applying an instagram filter. Luckily it's harder to do on WP at the moment, but time will come .

neonspark said,
so the next time I take a photo and comes out all dark and blury I'll say, "wow, what a great ecosystem"! instead of saying "yuck, what a POS camera".

Why not? It saves you the time of making it worse with Instagram!

Edited by francescob, May 16 2013, 9:11pm :

its a little bit better than marginal, they are very much better. I would take a smooth non crashing, non freezing, non rebooting OS like WP8 over Android any day.
The Samsung s4 has a lot of features some work marginally some don't work at all, S4 has a very bad storage issue, so yes I would take a well mad phone like the Lumia and a well made OS like WP over Samsung and android any day.

neonspark said,
so the next time I take a photo and comes out all dark and blury I'll say, "wow, what a great ecosystem"! instead of saying "yuck, what a POS camera".

pffff go home.

you know that long long time ago they invented something called camera, its still around and the new ones are much much better.

when you want to take good pictures, maybe use a camera.

S7R1K3R said,
Camera phones are just for the odd picture here or there. If this is your main camera geez wait til you see pics taken by a Point and shoot or better yet.... a DSLR. I understand people don't want to carry multple devices but if photos were that IMPORTANT to you why even bother with a camera phone. And for the record I love Nokias focus to really excel in at least one area of a smartphone. I just wish they had a choice of OS instead of being bought out by MS. Also I had a Nokia 820 the first day it came out and returned it 3 hours later because of windows phone 8. I was also a user of windows mobile 5+ on pdas and a hp phone so I knew what I was expecting with MS and they did not disappoint.

So even though you were expecting a crap experience, you still went ahead and bought a WP device. WOW.

Hahahaha.. This is the best comment.. NOT

If you knew you had to take PROPER photo, you would go prepared. Wouldn't you? (Its that easy?) As for taking a "sexy" Or "cute" photo of your girlfriend unexpectedly, I'm sure the quality of the photo would not be your focus point, because if it was you would know a phone camera can only take certain quality photos?

Am I right Or am I right?

sagum said,
but even then, unless you setup a DLSR with the correct settings, monitor the light etc, you can and usually will end up with a worse picture then a half decent point and shoot camera. The pureview technology here that Nokia is offering IS replacing the half decent point and shoot cameras now and since most people carry a phone with them having a decent camera function is a great boost... unfortunately, with all the great pictures the pureview technology is going to give people, they'll still insist on applying an instagram filter. Luckily it's harder to do on WP at the moment, but time will come .

I disagree even the ****est SLRs when lobbed into Auto, P or even at a push A if you don't know what your doing will usually take a photo that ****es over a cameraphone in 95% of situations especially given the time it takes to fire up the app vs setting a mode and on. If you want to ponce about with the settings then yeah however if you simply "have to get the shot" and you have only 2s then even as a pro sometimes it's better to lob the camera into auto and in that situation it's going to be at least as good.

There'sa slight portbility difference between my D7000 and my phone. you don't need an SLR for every day outside photos or bright inside shots. a good camera phone will do. and a better camera phone is better.

like the example pictures, you don't bring your SLR to a coffee shop, bar, pub, concert(well you could, but you might not be allowed, but if you are the SLR is of course preferable, but I'd rather concentrate on the music than keeping track of my SLR in the crowd) and all those other places like that.

if I can take better pictures with my phone wherever I am, how is that not a good thing. especially with a camera being the most used non phone function on a smartphone.

Kunal Nanda said,

So even though you were expecting a crap experience, you still went ahead and bought a WP device. WOW.

I'm a little bit of a tech fiend. I buy almost everything that comes out new to try it at least. I own every major console since the 90s and currently a Z10 and a S4 sitting on my desk. I will however say that the Vita was my dumbest launch purchase in the past few years. So to answer your question yes I wanted to give MS a shot at redeeming themselves but the cynic in me was correct all along.

techbeck said,

Never had any problems taking pics with any camera. I have a steady hand and know what to shoot and how to shoot it. Anything else I need can be done via software so no big deal. I have several batch jobs setup that will automatically edit my photos how I want.

Incredible. Good for you.