Nokia VP: Windows Phone "Apollo" coming mid-2012

While Microsoft's Mango update for its Windows Phone 7 operating system was launched just a few weeks ago, we may not have to wait much longer to get the next big update for the OS. Engadget reports from Nokia World that Nokia vice-president Michael Halbherr confirmed that the next big update, code named "Apollo" should be available for Windows Phone 7 device owners sometime in mid-2012.

Naturally details about what will be included in Apollo have yet to be announced although Halbherr did say it will be a "very different game" compared to the new Mango release.

It also likely means that Microsoft is working with Nokia as well as other Windows Phone-based device makers as we speak on what will be included in Apollo and how upcoming smartphones will take advantage of the new features in their hardware. Indeed the article claims that Nokia is trying to get Microsoft to put in features such as near field communication (NFC) in the next update.

In any case, we just hope that whenever the next Windows Phone update is released it also comes with the promised support for things like dual core processors and LTE-based wireless networks. As cool as the new Nokia phones look, a lot of Android-based phones now have LTE support and even the iPhone 4S has a dual core processor.

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I personally would like to see them add support for dual/quad core optimization, 1280x720 screen resolution, LTE, NFC, and Windows 8 kernel support. Based on the direction they have been moving it is clear that they want to move to a single code base for windows and windows phone, but it may take another version of windows before this can happen. It's cleas that MS wants to be able to have one device to run all of your software everywhere, but have different shells depending on the use scenario. Time will tell, but I think 2012 will be a very exciting year for all of Microsoft's products.

Mid-2012? doesnt sound too bad. Im due for Upgrade in March/April so may just wait until Apollo to get a new Apollo device

Anthonyd said,
Tango 1 and Tango 2 are supposed to be released before Apollo, so late 2012 or mid 2013 seems more accurate imo

Microsoft have been on target so far so your comment has no rationale.

As for dual core, most WP7 phones will still out preform an iPhone 4S with daily tasks.

Anthonyd said,
Tango 1 and Tango 2 are supposed to be released before Apollo, so late 2012 or mid 2013 seems more accurate imo
I bet u also thought mango wouldn't be out till early 2012 right? looks like u need to break up with that boyfriend of urs named Paul Thurrott.

elcapo24682 said,
I bet u also thought mango wouldn't be out till early 2012 right? looks like u need to break up with that boyfriend of urs named Paul Thurrott.

Mango has been planned for sep/oct 2011 since a while, and officially

Gaffney said,

As for dual core, most WP7 phones will still out preform an iPhone 4S with daily tasks.

Is this really the only argument WP7 proponents have? You do realise that iOS and Android (Especially with ICS) are smooth enough that the average consumer won't even notice the difference right? If Android and iOS devices have made it this far with 'Serious lag' and 'Choppy frame rates' then clearly the general consumer doesn't care. In my opinion iOS is extremely smooth as is and if the SGS2, which has HW acceleration already enabled in some apps is an indication of how smooth Android devices as a whole will be once updated to ICS, then this is a very weak argument for WP7. As a side note, I can cap my SGS2 to 500MHz instead of 1.2GHz (With all my usual apps running) and everything flows beautifully. Android and iOS doesn't require dual cores to run well, they simply have a larger user base and as a result more developers and apps that utilize the power they contain. GTA3 is a perfect example of this and if MS have any foresight they'll have already planned to also take advantage of dual/quad cores.

Dual core again............it will happen, and will be taken advantage of I have no doubt, but I DO NOT WANT IT until its right, because ITS NOT NEEDED right now, no matter what the competition has, its simply NOT NEEDED right now, all windows phone 7 phones run silky smooth, paper specs mean nothing. There is nothing I can think of on my Samsung Omnia 7 that would benefit from faster processing simply as everything is fast, very fast, so why have dual core CPU and less battery life for zero benefit?

duddit2 said,
Dual core again............it will happen, and will be taken advantage of I have no doubt, but I DO NOT WANT IT until its right, because ITS NOT NEEDED right now, no matter what the competition has, its simply NOT NEEDED right now, all windows phone 7 phones run silky smooth, paper specs mean nothing. There is nothing I can think of on my Samsung Omnia 7 that would benefit from faster processing simply as everything is fast, very fast, so why have dual core CPU and less battery life for zero benefit?

They could just make a 8-core phone with some kind of goober processor and it would be the same speed as what they have today but they could market it as an 8-core phone so people get excited.

duddit2 said,
Dual core again............it will happen, and will be taken advantage of I have no doubt, but I DO NOT WANT IT until its right, because ITS NOT NEEDED right now, no matter what the competition has, its simply NOT NEEDED right now, all windows phone 7 phones run silky smooth, paper specs mean nothing. There is nothing I can think of on my Samsung Omnia 7 that would benefit from faster processing simply as everything is fast, very fast, so why have dual core CPU and less battery life for zero benefit?

It doesn't decrease battery life. The extra cores can shut down when not in use. There are things which aren't instant. Dual core makes them faster.

duddit2 said,
Dual core again............it will happen, and will be taken advantage of I have no doubt, but I DO NOT WANT IT until its right, because ITS NOT NEEDED right now, no matter what the competition has, its simply NOT NEEDED right now, all windows phone 7 phones run silky smooth, paper specs mean nothing. There is nothing I can think of on my Samsung Omnia 7 that would benefit from faster processing simply as everything is fast, very fast, so why have dual core CPU and less battery life for zero benefit?

Ah, I see the FUD spreader is in full swing these days. How about being used in games? Regardless of how 'Optimized' WP7 is there is only so far it can go before needing more raw power. Also If you bothered to look into dual core battery consumption you'll clearly see that running App X which utilizes 80% of a 1 core phones CPU will actually use more battery than a dual core phone which evens the load (In this example to 40%) over 2 cores. Also, regardless of the platform 1 core limits the device in all respects. We don't know how the OS will mature (More eye candy, perhaps side by side applications etc) and ruling out dual core only puts an unnecessary limit on MS and developers. Samsung and ARM have also been looking into dual/quad core CPUs which have high end cores for the more intensive tasks and lower end ones for general use. I believe these have immense practical solutions, all of which could help battery performance.