Norway store pulls some games from shelves in wake of murders

The truly horrible events that happened in Norway a week ago that caused the deaths of 76 people were the reasons cited for one retailer in that country to remove a number of PC and console games from its store shelves. VG247.com reports via a Norway-based web site that the Coop Norway retail chain has decided to remove a total of 51 game titles because of "consideration for those affected" by the shooting and bombings that occurred on July 22. 68 people were killed in a mass shooting on the island of Utoya, also on that day while eight others were killed due to bombs set in government buildings in Oslo.

Right wing activist Anders Behring Breivik has claimed responsibility for the attacks. In his manifesto 2083: A European Declaration of Independence, released in a mass email just before the attacks, he mentions playing Blizzard's MMO game World of Warcraft. He also says playing the first person shooter Call of Duty Modern Warfare 4 was a so-called "training" tool for his plans. Both games were among the titles that have been pulled off the Coop Norway store shelves.

Coop Norway's director Geir Inge Stokke said, "The decision to remove the games was made around the time we realized the scope of the attack. Others are better suited than us, to point to the negative effects of games like these. At the moment it’s [appropriate] for us to take them down. I wouldn’t be surprised if others do the same. We have to think very carefully about when to bring these goods back. The economy involved is of no importance.”

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OMG what about the other players all around the world??!? are we creating terrorists??? ahhh the sky is falling! we should stop bomb sales and gun sales while we're at it. wait..

I think, only some Social Analysts can answer if they did well or not.

Are there tangible evidences or have conducted tests on humans to analyse their behavior?

I wonder if the commenters even read the article, it clearly states: "Others are better suited than us, to point to the negative effects of games like these. At the moment it's [appropriate] for us to take them down."

As a norwegian I know more than what is said in this article, the brands are not taken down because they lead to violent behavior, it's because they remind of him and he has supposedly used them in his training.

If he wore a red hat they would stop selling red hats for awhile, it's nothing "more" than that.
They have stated that the products will return, just not right now - my best bet is that you can still buy them at the store, they are simply not out in the shelfs.

I'm fine with this.. As long as it's not the State demanding they be pulled, just the company deciding to do it, I don't see the problem.. Still want it ? Go elsewhere, or order online. If they don't want to carry the product it's their call.

Ppl need get a friggin life... Call of duty haha he found it harder than usual because his gun wouldn't auto aim and there were no cheats he could find!!

since many people believe in fate, whether or not these games would have existed or not; the day thsi guy was born he was destine to kill as he did...right? So pulling these games off the shelf mean what? NOTHING.

Just like Amy Winehouse was destined to be a drun abusing drunken loser, just like the millions of losers who die from abuse of such everyday.

Giving these guys so much attention just shows how warped and twisted the media is.
I dont believe in fate so in either case, both loser chose the path they took for whatever their reasons were.

They both have something in common, they were both psychopaths who acted on what they felt differently. She chose to kill herslef and he chose to kill other people. Period.

Videio Games dont turn people into sick killing ******* that theuy are. What about John Wayne Gasey? Tim McVeigh? The Uni-Bomber and many other.

These people are just sick and twisted. Lying an saying u got ur ideas from a video game or movie is as fictional as the claim.

Any person that falls for that and pulls games saying they are to violent bec so gov't haten troll decide to kill in the name of Revolution. needs to see a doctor. Lots of countries have had a revolution and lots of people got killed. So what...people die everyday.

Pulling games off the shelf just shows how stupid people are today.

ahhell said,
ONE retailer pulled games not the whole bloody country.

Misleading title.

It says "Norway store" in the title, how is that misleading?

Hold on, hold on, this is a extremely grave tragedy for a quiet country like Norway. They have just begun to bury the victim of these attacks today. It is a very sensitive and emotional matter to them right now and I find that rather normal to have knee-jerk reactions like this one.
I do agree that blaming videogames or movies is not a solution at all.
Still, let them have some time for the mourning.

@Heartripper
Agreed, but... The games was good enough for training to kill people efficiently. The game did help him to acquire/improve required skills for his task.

I just really don't see how. I have REAL weapons and those aforementioned games... they really are not the same. Shooting a weapon in a game is nothing like going to a range and shooting there.

The guy was just nuts. He had an idea in his head and he went and did it. You people can all thank God that I, and most people, don't act on every vile thought they have.

david13lt said,
@Heartripper
Agreed, but... The games was good enough for training to kill people efficiently. The game did help him to acquire/improve required skills for his task.

Wow! I had absolutely no idea that using two analogue sticks was just like aiming a real gun!, I guess I'd be able to just pick up an M16 right now and hit every target OMG

Heartripper said,
So please stop selling also guns and explosives, because those people weren't killed by videogames

As a civilised society, Norway does not make it easy to buy guns. That is why they may have had a lower rate of gun crime than say Washington DC. Perhaps someone could look it up. I just pulled that statistic out of thin air.

holdfast said,

As a civilised society, Norway does not make it easy to buy guns. That is why they may have had a lower rate of gun crime than say Washington DC. Perhaps someone could look it up. I just pulled that statistic out of thin air.

You are entirely correct.

I can sort of understand why this shopkeeper wanted to remove these games from the shelves, temporarily, so shoppers can buy their groceries without having to see pictures of guns pointed at them after a tragedy like this. I find it likely that some people will get an unrealistic and sadistic view of violence from an unhealthy amount of exposure to shooters. This is also true for other sources of depicted violence.

LoLz, WoW is now supposedly a partial blame? Those damn Death Knights! Time to sue Blizzard.

(^^ that was sarcasm folks, in case any of you have a broken sarcasm meter today)

Movies and books are worse. CSI has shown many ways to kill people with poison. Documentaries that explain exactly how murders were done and what mistakes the murderer did will only help noob murderers. I like to watch such documentaries, the reasoning and the science behind the investigation is very interesting. As long as it's science and not fiction. CSI sucks.
Very few computer games give you ideas how to become an idiot like Breivik. A game doesn't make someone a murderer, society and inherited genes do.

@Shamburg

Right on! This guy's brainbox was defective and the games were a trigger. But with his wiring as messed up as it is, if it wasn't these games, it'd be porn, books, heavy metal, the CIA, or invisible rays emited by Major League Baseball. In other words, this guy was going to be triggered by something regardless.

Kirkburn said,
Or more reasonably, he suggests there is a possible element of racism involved.

Well not exactly racism, but there is a stereotype that all people who play violent games are violent or will commit an act of violence.

Whats ridiculous is that people are now going to say that these games make people violent. The reality is that this guy was obviously nuts before he started playing this ****, and would've done this whether he practiced on a video game or in his back yard shooting squirrels.

Shea J said,
so much for "we'll respond violence with more democracy"
and that whole bs speech the PM gave.

That's the PM, this is a chain and this decision has nothing to do with what the PM said, or was in any way related to any governmental action

ryoohki said,
LOL COD for training!!! LOLLLLL It teach you nothing... or real world warfare..

That is untrue, COD has taught me much about warfare. Such as taking cover after getting shot to recover your health.

windlight said,

That is untrue, COD has taught me much about warfare. Such as taking cover after getting shot to recover your health.

LOL! Yes, it is amazing how quickly you can recover after being shot just by hiding.

ryoohki said,
LOL COD for training!!! LOLLLLL It teach you nothing... or real world warfare..

I've learned that bunny hopping is a good way to not get hit

windlight said,

That is untrue, COD has taught me much about warfare. Such as taking cover after getting shot to recover your health.

If your name was Logan I would believe you.

z0phi3l said,

I've learned that bunny hopping is a good way to not get hit

Likewise, Cod also taught me how to reload a gun in less than a second! And I can now run Forever, It took me ages to get marathon pro though, I had to run like 25 miles ^_^.

KSib said,
Not sure if trolling... or just have no idea what he just said.

He's entitled to his opinion right? Or only if he agrees with you. Sad.

tmaxxtigger said,

He's entitled to his opinion right? Or only if he agrees with you. Sad.

He is entitled to his retarded opinion, definitely. It's sad when people point this out as if it makes some peoples opinions less stupid.

Sraf said,

Why, it doesn't help anything

They are voluntarily taking them off the shelves *for now*. This is just showing a bit of respect, good taste and manners. They can choose to sell or not sell what they want. That is the free market. They may choose to put them back up later *if they feel like it*.
Being forced to take them down permanently is another matter.

Dashel said,
They pulled WoW, lulz.

Well the guy did play WoW. Anyone who still plays that in this day and age probably has some kind of mental issues.

Enron said,
Well the guy did play WoW. Anyone who still plays that in this day and age probably has some kind of mental issues.

Why stop here? Guy was a christian too so we must pull all Bibles from shelves. Anyone who still reads bible in this day and age probably has some kind of mental issues.

Dashel said,
They pulled WoW, lulz.
Also, I think that Blizzard must stop fuel violence and close all accounts in Colombia, Sudan, Afganistan and Yemen. Only if Hitler's parents knew what they are getting into when they bought him PlayStation for Christmas.

Enron said,

Well the guy did play WoW. Anyone who still plays that in this day and age probably has some kind of mental issues.

I do play WoW and I assure you mentally, physically and financially I'm doing better than a frustrated insect like you.

EJocys said,

Why stop here? Guy was a christian too so we must pull all Bibles from shelves. Anyone who still reads bible in this day and age probably has some kind of mental issues.

So "love your neighbor as yourself" & "let your kindness be evident toward all" is crazy talk beneath your modern enlightenment? Maybe you need to actually read it for yourself

revparadigm said,
So "love your neighbor as yourself" & "let your kindness be evident toward all" is crazy talk beneath your modern enlightenment? Maybe you need to actually read it for yourself

So, how many neighbors you've killed on Sunday? Bible tells to do that:

Exodus 35:2 Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.

I hope modern enlightenment won't stop you since Jesus in NT agrees with this too: Mathew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

See, I've read my Bible and I don't have selective memory only for good bits like some Christian. I think, I have to use /s more.

If they do this then we need to have them pull all books that are violent, or contains anything that resembles the content of these games as well.

It's stupid to do things just to do it.... there is no real clear goal or positive outcome by doing this, it just makes the people who facilitated this feel like they have won a victory and then they get all warm and fuzzy now that the world is a better place because of them. It's actually almost comical the way things like this get out of hand after a tragedy.

Typical knee jerk reaction. This was one man. How many others play these games and lead full lawful lives? :rolleyes

artnada said,
Typical knee jerk reaction. This was one man. How many others play these games and lead full lawful lives? :rolleyes

And it took one man to kill 76 people. In took 19 people to kill almost 3000 people on 9/11.

david13lt said,

And it took one man to kill 76 people. In took 19 people to kill almost 3000 people on 9/11.

9/11 kill ratio - 1/158
Norway kill ratio - 1/76

9/11 wins.

Though I don't really understand what you are arguing (or agreeing) with, it's fun to put kill ratios on real life situations.

artnada said,
Typical knee jerk reaction. This was one man. How many others play these games and lead full lawful lives? :rolleyes

Either way, more than zero people were murdered. Both were awful.

Godlike_Ape said,

Either way, more than zero people were murdered. Both were awful.

Which has nothing to do with them playing games. 9/11 was a religious incident. Even if they use a flight simulator to train, you could probably say that any game could be used to "train" for something.

Games don't cause these incidents. If they weren't available, they would find another way to prepare.

There was murder and crimes committed WAY before video games ever existed. Get real.

farmeunit said,

Which has nothing to do with them playing games. 9/11 was a religious incident. Even if they use a flight simulator to train, you could probably say that any game could be used to "train" for something.

Games don't cause these incidents. If they weren't available, they would find another way to prepare.

There was murder and crimes committed WAY before video games ever existed. Get real.

I actually meant to reply to this comment:

9/11 kill ratio - 1/158
Norway kill ratio - 1/76

9/11 wins.

Though I don't really understand what you are arguing (or agreeing) with, it's fun to put kill ratios on real life situations.

...Oops.

farmeunit said,
9/11 was a religious incident.

Actually it wasn't - just to tell you I was raised as a catholic but I turned to be an an atheist (and faced a whole lot of problems for becoming one…) - Islam ain't got nothing to do with suicide attacks! Like in Christianity, you're doomed to stay in "hell" - remember I don't believe in this stuff - for "eternity" if you kill innocent people in Islam. In reality it's the uneducated that think that they serve "god" if the kill those that don't follow the right path… (Like the Christians did in the crusades, so you ain't any better than those…)

MFH said,

Actually it wasn't - just to tell you I was raised as a catholic but I turned to be an an atheist (and faced a whole lot of problems for becoming one…) - Islam ain't got nothing to do with suicide attacks! Like in Christianity, you're doomed to stay in "hell" - remember I don't believe in this stuff - for "eternity" if you kill innocent people in Islam. In reality it's the uneducated that think that they serve "god" if the kill those that don't follow the right path… (Like the Christians did in the crusades, so you ain't any better than those…)

+1

MFH said,

Actually it wasn't - just to tell you I was raised as a catholic but I turned to be an an atheist (and faced a whole lot of problems for becoming one…) - Islam ain't got nothing to do with suicide attacks! Like in Christianity, you're doomed to stay in "hell" - remember I don't believe in this stuff - for "eternity" if you kill innocent people in Islam. In reality it's the uneducated that think that they serve "god" if the kill those that don't follow the right path… (Like the Christians did in the crusades, so you ain't any better than those…)

+1 (I'm going to have to start using the new Like feature on Neowin, though )

no-sweat said,

9/11 kill ratio - 1/158
Norway kill ratio - 1/76

9/11 wins.

Though I don't really understand what you are arguing (or agreeing) with, it's fun to put kill ratios on real life situations.


Calculating kill ratios are a really good way of describing tragedies.