NPD: Chromebooks claim 21 percent of all U.S. commercial notebook sales so far in 2013

If you are wondering why Microsoft is now suddenly launching TV commercials that claim Chromebooks are not real notebooks, the latest U.S. sales figures for PC and tablet sales from the NPD Group research firm may be a big clue. According to their newest report, Chromebooks claimed 21 percent of all commercial channel-based notebook sales and eight percent of all commercial PC and tablet sales in the US between January to November 2013.

The report adds that in the first 11 months of the year, 1.76 million Chromebooks and Android-based tablets were sold, compared to just 400,000 units in 2012. By contrast, Windows notebooks showed no sales growth in the past year, according to NPD, although sales of Windows desktops did rise up by 10 percent in 2013.

The spike in Chromebooks sales is good news for Google, along with its third party OEM partners like HP, Dell, Samsung, Acer and others who have all released notebooks based on Chrome OS in the past year. The news isn't as good for Microsoft, which now sees Chromebooks as a real threat to its Windows OS-based laptop sales.

Overall, 14.4 million desktops, notebooks, and tablets were sold through U.S. commercial sources in the first 11 months of 2013. That's up 25.4 percent compared to 2012, which only showed a 3.1 percent increase.

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As expected, the author was revealed as a liar and changed the title of the article. Even so, it's still misleading because the article doesn't offer any explanation/context as to what the "commercial notebook" market is, or what percentage of the ACTUAL notebook market it represents (which is... not much).

wingliston said,
I really feel for the people who bought one. You just bought a trap. My condolences.

I feel the same about people that bought Surface RT

Misleading headline...the RSS headline says "21% of all US notebooks sales" when in fact it's 21% of all COMMERCIAL US notebook sales. BIG difference.

That aside, I am not surprised by the popularity of Chromebooks in the commercial space. If all you need is basic document editing and viewing and web access, these machines make a lot of sense. The TCO to deploy these is ridiculously low...with almost zero maintenance and support needed. Will these replace dedicated workstations? No. Will they replace a Windows PC with MS Office? Maybe. Office is used by habit and by default, but 99% of the users out there would be just fine with Google Docs.

As the article points out, this is a HUGE threat to Microsoft, a company used to pumping out crap and forcing it's customers to eat it...They simply don't know how to counter this threat...certainly NOT by listening to the complaints of their customers, or by making Windows better....no, they just launch an expensive ad campaign filled with FUD trying to scare customers away from a product that is eating their lunch. Well, maybe it's about time this happens. MAYBE, just MAYBE...MS will LEARN from this and release better products...but I am not holding my breath.

Must be a regional thing. I personally know at least 5 people with Surface tablets, which are considered to be flops. I've yet to even see a Chromebook, let alone know anyone who owns one.

so, let's round it up and say they sold 2 million of these things in one year. And this gives them 21 percent of all netbook sales? which means they captured 1/5th of the market meaning this market is JUST 10 million units per year? yeah right. I mean if that is true, then MSFT only sells 8 million windows licenses to notebooks.

neonspark said,
so, let's round it up and say they sold 2 million of these things in one year.

It gets better... that 1.7 million also includes Android tablets. Take them out of the equation, and what do you have? Less than a million?

Surely Chromebooks aren't selling better than Android tablets....

With this news of Chrome OS surging, Android dominating, iOS continuing its success and Macbook's selling like hotcakes...If you still think Microsoft is not in trouble with their Windows brand you are sadly mistaken...now that we have choice its pretty obvious what consumers are choosing not its not Windows...I like it when things aren't forced down my throat as an only option, seems like the rest of consumers agree

Sonne said,
If you still think Microsoft is not in trouble with their Windows brand you are sadly mistaken

The Article said,
... although sales of Windows desktops did rise up by 10 percent in 2013 ...

except off course that the chromebooks has been trying to sell for years and according to these numbers, it is selling about 2 million units per year. this is really low and we don't yet factor in return rates of consumers that bought it thinking it was a windows pc. not to mention, chromebooks are being outshined by tablets so like the Linux netbook, it will fizz out after consumers realize it was just a price bait.

Too many people on Neowin are quick to discredit the numbers because it shows several OEMs are selling Chromebooks while the same OEMs dropped RT out of their lineup.

If Microsoft wants to give the OEM's a leg up and increase sales they should make their Windows OS's free to reduce prices.

techbeck said,
Wont happen. MS is a software company. That is where they make their money.

actually you're sadly mistaken. Microsoft say they are a devices and services company. This pretty much indicates they are not interested in continuing with selling windows long term. didn't you follow the latest rumors? windows will be free to use it as a Trojan horse in much the same way android is. If MSFT charges for windows, it will be to desktop and businesses that value the x86 desktop ecosystem and see no reason to switch.

realize, consumer windows sales aren't even #1, or #2 revenue streams for MSFT. Windows consumer revenues has long ago ceased been MSFT primary star. And they pretty much know that free windows means increased sales of devices and services, which is the company they are now.

free windows for everybody, leading to an explosion in uptake is very much MSFT plan for 2014.

Many people can do just fine with a chrome book. Good on Google for giving people this option at such a low price.

derekaw said,
Many people can do just fine with a chrome book. Good on Google for giving people this option at such a low price.

except everybody is switching to tablets

Funny considering the amount of people calling them crap. I said all a long that they have a purpose and that they will get more popular as new features are added. And with possibly 7 companies making them next year... They will do even better

Edited by techbeck, Dec 26 2013, 3:08am :

techbeck said,
Funny considering the amount of people calling them crap. U said all a long that they have a purpose and that they will get more popular as new features are added. And with possibly 7 companies making them next year... They will do even better

1 million is only 0.2% of the 350 million PCs sold every year. i doubt even outside "commercial channels" its even a few points of a percentage point. dont be fooled by the title.

vcfan said,

1 million is only 0.2% of the 350 million PCs sold every year. i doubt even outside "commercial channels" its even a few points of a percentage point. dont be fooled by the title.

It is still something, period. It is making a slow increase and like I said, with the addition of more companies making them, and more features being added, the sales will just increase.

People love to dismiss everything Google and make crack comments about them...and other companies. But people are ignorant if they thing that the company they love will be as they are now without competition. Google is hear to stay....MS is here to stay...Apple is here to stay. People just need to deal with it. No company is perfect.

techbeck said,

It is still something, period. It is making a slow increase and like I said, with the addition of more companies making them, and more features being added, the sales will just increase.

So are Windows Phone and Windows 8 but some people here still like to trash those...

I think it is great that Google throws some competition at Microsoft. But to be honest the Chromebook in it's current state is no replacement for a Windows Notebook. There is so much missing in functionality for even the most novice computer user that they quickly become frustrated with it.

techbeck said,
Funny considering the amount of people calling them crap. I said all a long that they have a purpose and that they will get more popular as new features are added. And with possibly 7 companies making them next year... They will do even better

in the post-pc world? unlikely. Let us remember that these things have been trying for years. if anything they just got better marketing but still the same bad deal they were. yes you can trick consumers for a little bit, but ultimately it is a flawed product that has been struggling for year and will continue to struggle.

everybody argues tablets are good enough for most people. And if you bother with the extra bulk of a pc-like device, you expect pc like capabilities which the chromebook lacks. even the most basic android tablet, out features the chromebook.

These numbers are not even close to accurate.

Try Android + Chromebook + ignoring Windows 8.1 new tablet/notebook sales in December.

When you can buy $50-100 toyish tablets, the numbers chip away at total tablet/netbook number rather easily.

Mobius Enigma said,
These numbers are not even close to accurate.

Try Android + Chromebook + ignoring Windows 8.1 new tablet/notebook sales in December.

When you can buy $50-100 toyish tablets, the numbers chip away at total tablet/netbook number rather easily.


If someone can do everything they need too on a 50-100 tablet.. It isn't really toyish.. Competitive marketing.. Be happy that companies are able to offer a platform to all ranges of users..

Mobius Enigma said,
These numbers are not even close to accurate.

Try Android + Chromebook + ignoring Windows 8.1 new tablet/notebook sales in December.

When you can buy $50-100 toyish tablets, the numbers chip away at total tablet/netbook number rather easily.

How are the not close to being accurate? It says in the article "January-November", and here you are talking about December?

fusi0n said,

If someone can do everything they need too on a 50-100 tablet.. It isn't really toyish.. Competitive marketing.. Be happy that companies are able to offer a platform to all ranges of users..

Ya, that was poorly worded. I use them myself for non-toy work.

Mobius Enigma said,
These numbers are not even close to accurate.

Try Android + Chromebook + ignoring Windows 8.1 new tablet/notebook sales in December.

When you can buy $50-100 toyish tablets, the numbers chip away at total tablet/netbook number rather easily.

I'm going to reword this, and correct myself...

I originally did the numbers and thought they were pulling in Android to get the percentages.

However, they are not, instead they are taking a specific segment to inflate the number and dismiss other increases.

It specifically is breaking out rigid notebook ONLY definition.

This makes Chromebook look better than it does, and it also makes Windows look like it is eating it own sales increases with any device that falls outside of the definition not being included.

It is also a bit premature for a 2013 report, with November/December having the largest introduction of new Windows notebooks and tablets that won't show up.

In the end, Chromebook could really do well, but this information is not demonstrating it.

For example: The <1% to 5% Windows Phone increase so far in 2013 could be broken out to make the numbers look even bigger by using a strict definition or classification to break it out of a broader definition.

It is a bit like making this type of skewed statement:
"Windows Phone 8 claims 99% of all smartphone sales in 2013.*"

*Smartphones being classified as cell phones that have 41mp cameras.

Which is technically true if you follow the reference, but very misleading.

Why do so many get butt hurt and post negitve comments when a brand does well? Can't we just happy that others companies are doing better as expected? It only helps the industry in the long run.. The amount of trolling fan boys on the site is unreal now.. Let's all act a little more mature and have a thought out post.. Dont just bs negative comments because you dont like a brand. Be more open minded.. Hell, I have an Android phone, macbook pro for my main computer, windows 7 gaming box that's booted in Linux most of the time.. Become more well rounded and educate yourself.. These thoughtless post are annoying..

cybersaurusrex said,
Because this is propaganda. The numbers are misleading and an insult to our intelligence.

You said numbers are misleading just because it hurt your some company's fanboy bubble or do you have access to more reliable data which makes you think numbers are misleading.

Auditor said,

You said numbers are misleading just because it hurt your some company's fanboy bubble or do you have access to more reliable data which makes you think numbers are misleading.

They ARE misleading, how is it possible that Chrome OS is responsible for 21% of all sales but doesn't show up in any market share results?

Because once people start to use them they quickly figure out that there is not much to do with these things. For a few $ more you can get a full Windows Notebook that offers 100x more functionality. So they never show up in web usage since they end up in a drawer or are returned.

Its all over. Windows is dead, Chrome is the VICTOR all hail the ChromeBook. No one needs Android, Linx, OSX just ChromeOS. Really people calm down, ChromeOS, Windows RT, and iOS are all in the same space whether many like it or not. For some these light devices make sense and others will always want traditional laptop/desktop. All this sniping about which is better is beside the point if the people derive effective use from the device. Competition is competition and hopefully will make a stronger product out of Windows RT as it merges with Windows Phone.

Studio384 said,
Then where is it's marketshare? It still didn't show up anywhere. IF you've got 21% of a market, this shouldn't be the case.

my thoughts exactly. I'm yet to see a single OS stat site, even those as innacurate as web based ones make chromebooks break from the "other" category.

21 percent are STUPID enough to by a piece of crap Chromebook? I'll bet those are related to the same idiots who bought NETBOOKS. Man, the gene pool is seriously in need of cleaning.

Eh I can see a use for them.. if all you ever use is a browser it'll be good enough. Wouldn't buy one myself, prefer the "full experience" that a "proper" desktop OS brings, no comparison with a laptop, but I certainly wouldn't turn it down if one was given to me either.

Robert Wade said,
21 percent are STUPID enough to by a piece of crap Chromebook? I'll bet those are related to the same idiots who bought NETBOOKS. Man, the gene pool is seriously in need of cleaning.

I don't think people are stupid for wanting a Chromebook; there's a good percentage of people out there who would be perfectly suited for one. Some people simply don't need much more than a web browser to get stuff done.

That said... I wouldn't be even remotely surprised if a large amount of the people who bought a Chromebook weren't aware that it lacked the ability to run normal applications. There will inevitably be people who see their prices and the fact that they look nice and buy one on a whim. Only time will tell if it's a fad like netbooks were.

Anthony Tosie said,

I don't think people are stupid for wanting a Chromebook; there's a good percentage of people out there who would be perfectly suited for one. Some people simply don't need much more than a web browser to get stuff done.

That said... I wouldn't be even remotely surprised if a large amount of the people who bought a Chromebook weren't aware that it lacked the ability to run normal applications. There will inevitably be people who see their prices and the fact that they look nice and buy one on a whim. Only time will tell if it's a fad like netbooks were.

well at the risk of calling a relative stupid, you're missing the point that a lot of people are suckered into these things without knowing. case in point my relative just returned 4 of these because he thought he bought a windows pc. he just saw them at best buy and thought they were a good deal. Then realized they were some "weird laptops that don't install any of his apps" and came to me for help. When I saw what they were, I explained to him his error. He off course was furious that best buy deceived him, and got his money back. I think he's the typical consumer. He doesn't read this site or cares about OS wars. He thought it was a laptop.

neonspark said,

well at the risk of calling a relative stupid, you're missing the point that a lot of people are suckered into these things without knowing. case in point my relative just returned 4 of these because he thought he bought a windows pc. he just saw them at best buy and thought they were a good deal. Then realized they were some "weird laptops that don't install any of his apps" and came to me for help. When I saw what they were, I explained to him his error. He off course was furious that best buy deceived him, and got his money back. I think he's the typical consumer. He doesn't read this site or cares about OS wars. He thought it was a laptop.


This, general population barely knows what a Windows is. They heard of it and know its something computer related mostly. But after years of working at technical support... the best question to "What Windows version do you have" is "How does the start menu button look like" either you get a "I don't have a start menu button" So thats either OSX or Windows 8 (not 1) or you get the Windows version.
Most people think their Apple runs a version of Windows! >.>

neonspark said,

well at the risk of calling a relative stupid, you're missing the point that a lot of people are suckered into these things without knowing. case in point my relative just returned 4 of these because he thought he bought a windows pc. he just saw them at best buy and thought they were a good deal. Then realized they were some "weird laptops that don't install any of his apps" and came to me for help. When I saw what they were, I explained to him his error. He off course was furious that best buy deceived him, and got his money back. I think he's the typical consumer. He doesn't read this site or cares about OS wars. He thought it was a laptop.


I addressed that in my second paragraph.

The headline of this article is so wrong.

According to IDC, there are 16 million PCs were sold in US in q3 alone.
http://m.idc.com/item/prUS24375913/paragraph/1050267

For the first 2 quarters also, its around 16million per quarter which means more than 60 million in 11months.

1.76 million number includes not only chromebooks but android tablets with prices from $50.

NPD group always brings these vague numbers.

stevan said,
Commercial channels. Don't people read......

I read that, but the headline does not say that. Headline says in US, chromebooks own 20% of market which is not true. Even in the commercial market it includes android tablets.

sri_tech said,
The headline of this article is so wrong.

According to IDC, there are 16 million PCs were sold in US in q3 alone.
http://m.idc.com/item/prUS24375913/paragraph/1050267

For the first 2 quarters also, its around 16million per quarter which means more than 60 million in 11months.

1.76 million number includes not only chromebooks but android tablets with prices from $50.

NPD group always brings these vague numbers.


npd are probably being paid by someone to boost the idea of chromebooks...

sri_tech said,
The headline of this article is so wrong.

According to IDC, there are 16 million PCs were sold in US in q3 alone.
http://m.idc.com/item/prUS24375913/paragraph/1050267

For the first 2 quarters also, its around 16million per quarter which means more than 60 million in 11months.

1.76 million number includes not only chromebooks but android tablets with prices from $50.

NPD group always brings these vague numbers.

ha ha ha, I guess that explains why chromebooks don't show up in OS stats. the only way they sell is if you lump them with android tablets lol.

commercial channels only. 1.76 million for android and chromebooks almost split evenly,so 1 million chromebooks. this is so insignificant. probably one institution made a big order(google?). nothing to see here. move along. doesn't apple sell 4-5million macs a quarter? and they have single digit percentage of total marketshare.

Edited by vcfan, Dec 25 2013, 10:52pm :

vcfan said,
commercial channels only. 1.76 million for android and chromebooks almost split evenly,so 1 million chromebooks. this is so insignificant. probably one institution made a big order(google?). nothing to see here. move along. doesn't apple sell 4-5million macs a quarter? and they have single digit percentage of total marketshare.

The article focuses largely on sales increase year over year, which is significant enough to report on. No one is comparing it with iMacs....

stevan said,

The article focuses largely on sales increase year over year, which is significant enough to report on. No one is comparing it with iMacs....

1 million commercially(whatever the hell that means) is 0.2% of the 350 million PCs sold in one year.

If these numbers are true, which seems highly unlikely as they don't even make enough chromebooks to fill that number. The only way I see chromebook numbers inflate this much so sudden is Xmas sales before the holidays. Laptops bought by parents and grandparents and clueless people who only see a cheap laptop. Not realizing it's not what they think. Much like the people who buy cheap E2 equipped laptops.

i'm sorry you call my opinion on chromebooks anecdotal evidence, only to provide pure speculation and blanket statements? Yup. This is neowin

Kaa-Ching said,
i'm sorry you call my opinion on chromebooks anecdotal evidence, only to provide pure speculation and blanket statements? Yup. This is neowin


ah so where supposed to take it at face value that the chromebook market suddenly grew by several hundred percent ? Meanwhile it's a known fact that cheap laptops sell like hot cakes before Xmas for gifts and are often returned as useless, if this is net books with Linux, notebooks with a useless E2 CPU or some other useless low value laptop the end result is the same and known mass returns or users will just don't use them. It's not what they expect and don't work like they expect.

Blindly defending google and/or Linux with little or no lgogical reasoning? Yup this is neowing see I can do that crap to, grow up and argue like an adult.

stevan said,

Where?


Further down in the comments, the numbers for chromebooks is chromebooks and a whole lot of other crap including android tablets, and chromebooks is just Avery tiny part of the number.

I think the author is mistaken and/or misleading us. The last I read was that Chromebooks had about 25% of the sub-$300 notebook market (which is a small segment). Now, suddenly, they have 21% of the entire notebook market? I don't believe it.

i have one, so does my dad. 2 of my friends have a new chromebook for xmas, both are developers. and I know of one friend's dad getting one based on him having one and saying its a pretty great device. Then again , i've yet to meet anyone in my family or friends who own a RT. Google has a strong brand image for quality software. RT leaves much to be desired. Also chromeOs' main selling point is for online only use, that's the whole point of the device. MS should get ready to put down the stray dog that is RT. Its a half baked, and poor supported device, no OEM wants to support it. So in the end, the consumer wins.

Kaa-Ching said,
i have one, so does my dad. 2 of my friends have a new chromebook for xmas, both are developers. and I know of one friend's dad getting one based on him having one and saying its a pretty great device. Then again , i've yet to meet anyone in my family or friends who own a RT. Google has a strong brand image for quality software. RT leaves much to be desired. Also chromeOs' main selling point is for online only use, that's the whole point of the device. MS should get ready to put down the stray dog that is RT. Its a half baked, and poor supported device, no OEM wants to support it. So in the end, the consumer wins.

Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal.

neufuse said,
I still have yet to see a SINGLE one of these things in the wild... The number seem a bit like BS to me.

Not that it really means anything but I live in London and know 6 people with Chromebooks. They all love them. Personally they are not for me but they are actually ok for a lot of people.

HawkMan said,

Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal.
Speculation is speculation, and besides anecdotal evidence that's all we've got, so I don't know what your point is.

neufuse said,
I still have yet to see a SINGLE one of these things in the wild... The number seem a bit like BS to me.

So. I have yet to see a wp8 device but you don't see me calling the asked numbers crap. They may but be popular in your area,but apparently people are finding a use for them

cybersaurusrex said,
I think the author is mistaken and/or misleading us.

you can expect to see john callaham's favorite "... might not be ... after all ..." follow-up post soon.

techbeck said,

So. I have yet to see a wp8 device but you don't see me calling the asked numbers crap. They may but be popular in your area,but apparently people are finding a use for them

Yeah the only person other than myself I know who has a WP is my landlord.

I guess it is good news for consumer. As long as there are some competitions, it will always be good for consumer. MS dominance in desktop has been the reason they don't care about consumers anymore. So many businesses, consumer groups and analyst had warned that shoehorning crap Metro on desktop is fatal strategy but MS chose to ignore that and took consumers for granted.

However, I don't like limited functionality internet only based device such as chrome OS. I think google should keep moving forward and start implementing features which can be used offline. Google has good online presence and if they get some market position in desktop then third party venders like Adobe etc will start producing their product for Chrome OS and then businesses and consumers won't be held hostage my MS monopoly.

Something about these numbers don't seem right.

This is the sentence that has me doubting, "Overall, 14.4 million desktops, notebooks, and tablets were sold through U.S. commercial sources in the first 11 months of 2013." What is meant by "commercial sources"? Also, surely there were more than 14.4 million desktops, notebooks, and tablets sold in the US in 2013. I mean, isn't it closer to 100-200 million?

Something about this report seems misleading...

cybersaurusrex said,
Something about these numbers don't seem right.

This is the sentence that has me doubting, "Overall, 14.4 million desktops, notebooks, and tablets were sold through U.S. commercial sources in the first 11 months of 2013." What is meant by "commercial sources"? Also, surely there were more than 14.4 million desktops, notebooks, and tablets sold in the US in 2013. I mean, isn't it closer to 100-200 million?

Something about this report seems misleading...

The NPD survey only includes sales of computers with a pre-installed operating system. This excludes sales to with volume and other licensing agreements, and companies who deploy their own windows images.


Deviate_X said,

The NPD survey only includes sales of computers with a pre-installed operating system. This excludes sales to with volume and other licensing agreements, and companies who deploy their own windows images.


Still iPads alone sold more than that in 1 quarter. How does this work out as a usable pecentage? Do iOS devices not count? Do Android devices not count because as a whole those sold a lot too? This is bad math.

blackjezuz said,

Still iPads alone sold more than that in 1 quarter. How does this work out as a usable pecentage? Do iOS devices not count? Do Android devices not count because as a whole those sold a lot too? This is bad math.

It does say US only sales

Deviate_X said,

The NPD survey only includes sales of computers with a pre-installed operating system. This excludes sales to with volume and other licensing agreements, and companies who deploy their own windows images.

You're correct, but this report excludes even more than that.

Buy a computer from Best Buy? Not counted, because Best Buy is classified as retail, not commercial.

Buy a preconfigured computer directly from Dell? Not counted, because that's a direct sale that did not go through a distributor.

Buy a built-to-order computer from Dell, with customization options? Not counted, because this is not preconfigured.

That's why 80% of the computers sold in the US are missing from this NPD report.

even when the stats prove that chromebooks are doing well, the haters gotta find an angle to push a story. Lol. Chromebooks sell well because they work well, come at good consumerism price points and come with good software. It's perfect for students, business' and older parents who simply need it for email, news/banking and chat. We all know you're gonna hate on this.

Dot Matrix said,
And what's the return rate?

And what's the profit margin? Especially with HP's 11" Chromebook charger recall.

rfirth said,

And what's the profit margin? Especially with HP's 11" Chromebook charger recall.

Well they don't have to pay for the licencing cost of the OS, so I'd say they could be larger than most Windows based notebooks.

rfirth said,

And what's the profit margin? Especially with HP's 11" Chromebook charger recall.

Evidently there's money to be made, as they wouldn't be doing it otherwise.

Low OS overhead means a low amount of RAM, slower CPU's and a tiny disk inside (like a 16GB SSD) - not exactly killer specs.

stevan said,

Well they don't have to pay for the licencing cost of the OS, so I'd say they could be larger than most Windows based notebooks.

Google also pays the MFRs for each unit that ends up in a user's hands. (Registered)

It is cheaper to do this than to buy information the old fashioned way.

Mobius Enigma said,

Google also pays the MFRs for each unit that ends up in a user's hands. (Registered)

It is cheaper to do this than to buy information the old fashioned way.



So would you also say Microsoft is doing the same because they give a huge discount for volume license to OEM's? Should we also assume they are only giving the discount to keep their monopoly status and prey on user's data?

recursive said,

So would you also say Microsoft is doing the same because they give a huge discount for volume license to OEM's? Should we also assume they are only giving the discount to keep their monopoly status and prey on user's data?

Big difference between giving discounted prices and actually paying to have your software used.

Google lives and breathes user data. Without it, they are nothing.

Actually read some more of the comments clarifying this article and you'll realize while this is good news it sure isn't anything truly major as far as chromebook uptake goes. This is very likely educational institutions replacing lab computers for the most part and this is for android and chromebook devices.

Kaa-Ching said,
even when the stats prove that chromebooks are doing well, the haters gotta find an angle to push a story. Lol. Chromebooks sell well because they work well, come at good consumerism price points and come with good software. It's perfect for students, business' and older parents who simply need it for email, news/banking and chat. We all know you're gonna hate on this.

Things sell because they are cheap. Same reason Android has taken over from iOS, the devices are a lot cheaper. I am sure a lot of people are buying Chromebooks because they are slightly cheaper and they are being told instore "this is new, this is simpler than Windows but lets you do everything online" and people just don't know any better. I was watching someone buy a laptop in Curry's the other day and I realised just how ignorant most people are about computers; they actually found the salesperson helpful when to me I could see they knew nothing.

Mobius Enigma said,

Google also pays the MFRs for each unit that ends up in a user's hands. (Registered)

They do? I've missed that. Do you have a source?

Of course they don't and he can't provide any links because no such article exists. That is the only way he can rationalize why they are selling so well.

Kind of surprised that the +10% Windows desktops wasn't as big a deal.. with all the gloom and doom headlines about the desktop market, the Windows is dying rhetoric, etc.

Well isn't that a surprise. Neowin made me believe that these things are garbage. Seeing just how many different manufacturers are releasing them, looks like they got more OEM support than RT.

stevan said,
Well isn't that a surprise. Neowin made me believe that these things are garbage. Seeing just how many different manufacturers are releasing them, looks like they got more OEM support than RT.

oh but they are useless and best part is that RT does 100 times more than the crap chrome books but the google fanbois claim its crap. Oh where is the logic in that.

Indeed - it only serves as a good reminder that you should read as wide a variety of technical forums to make sure you keep a broader mind on things, as there's some pretty um - less than broad minded opinions on here sometimes

I just unboxed my folks christmas present today, a C7 Chromebook. Cost me £179 in the end with a £20 rebate from PC World. Booted in 10 seconds, got them a Google account registered, and was up and running with a Hangouts video chat within minutes, to demonstrate to them which they were really excited about as since they saw FaceTime on mine and my sisters Mac & iPhone they were desperate to be able to do that. We couldn't afford to buy them a MacBook but figured ChromeBook and Hangouts will do the job just fine, plus with everything they do being browser based these days figured the ChromeBook will be perfect for them.

Time will tell I guess!

nickcruz said,

oh but they are useless and best part is that RT does 100 times more than the crap chrome books but the google fanbois claim its crap. Oh where is the logic in that.

Windows RT is crap, when compared to full-blown Windows, but it's relatively competitive compared to the likes of Android and iOS.

Chromebooks are certainly less functional than most other PC devices, but they're also intended to be very simplistic devices. Most of the people that moan about Chromebooks are the ones who don't understand the target audience. These are cheap, low power devices aimed at people who don't do a lot with computers. Grandma and Grampa don't care about the multitude of things that a desktop can do when all they want to do is send a couple of emails and do a web chat with their grandkids. A Chromebook will do all those things for them at a fraction of the price of the equivalent Windows PC, and the locked down nature of the device ensures that us geeks that roam the internets aren't plagued with tech support requests when they download a virus.

funny.

ipads, macbooks, ios and android devices are all garbages if you believe nowin (hah) and yet they seems to be thriving, to put it mildly, compare to surface and win 8x devices.

Majesticmerc said,

Windows RT is crap, when compared to full-blown Windows, but it's relatively competitive compared to the likes of Android and iOS.

Chromebooks are certainly less functional than most other PC devices, but they're also intended to be very simplistic devices. Most of the people that moan about Chromebooks are the ones who don't understand the target audience. These are cheap, low power devices aimed at people who don't do a lot with computers. Grandma and Grampa don't care about the multitude of things that a desktop can do when all they want to do is send a couple of emails and do a web chat with their grandkids. A Chromebook will do all those things for them at a fraction of the price of the equivalent Windows PC, and the locked down nature of the device ensures that us geeks that roam the internets aren't plagued with tech support requests when they download a virus.

Except Chromebooks aren't a "fraction of the price", you can get a Windows PC for hardly any more money. I see it as a short term saving that will end of being frustrating as soon as people want to do more than the basic things a Chromebook allows. Sure for some people it will be all they need, but i'd say they'd be better off with a tablet in that case. I'd much rather get my parents a Nexus 10 than a Chromebook, although i will get them some sort of Windows PC because I know there will be times they will need Word and maybe occasionally Excel. Google Docs will never be a sufficient replacement.

stevan said,
Well isn't that a surprise. Neowin made me believe that these things are garbage. Seeing just how many different manufacturers are releasing them, looks like they got more OEM support than RT.

They are garbage though. Would never recommend one to anyone. Can't load Office, can't load other critical business/enterprise apps. No go.

My brother in law did the same to his parents and bought them a Chromebook. At first it was all the rage how easy it was to set it up etc. After a couple of hours frustration started to kick in big time. Chromebooks are simply no replacement for a real notebook. He could have spent $50 more and end up with a Windows notebook that would have done everything the Chromebook offers and still let them install some programs they wanted to use on it. He quickly saw the mistake and offered to return it for them in exchange for a Windows Notebook.

TheShark said,
Except Chromebooks aren't a "fraction of the price", you can get a Windows PC for hardly any more money.

Sure they are, looking on the UK PCWorld retailer site, the cheapest Chromebook is £199, the cheapest equivalent Windows notebook is £280. That's a significant amount of money off.

TheShark said,
I see it as a short term saving that will end of being frustrating as soon as people want to do more than the basic things a Chromebook allows.

To an extent, I agree, but then again Chromebooks aren't aimed at people who want to do a lot with their computer. They're aimed at the very lowest end of the market for people who basically want access to Facebook et al without the grief of having to live with a low-end Windows notebook.

TheShark said,
Sure for some people it will be all they need, but i'd say they'd be better off with a tablet in that case.

If someone wanted a tablet, they'd get a tablet. A lot of people don't like tablet interfaces, and the equivalent tablet to a Chromebook with matching functionality (e.g. An Asus Transformer), are twice the price.

TheShark said,
I'd much rather get my parents a Nexus 10 than a Chromebook, although i will get them some sort of Windows PC because I know there will be times they will need Word and maybe occasionally Excel. Google Docs will never be a sufficient replacement.

What about Office 365? That would work fine on a Chromebook.

nickcruz said,

oh but they are useless and best part is that RT does 100 times more than the crap chrome books but the google fanbois claim its crap. Oh where is the logic in that.


After speaking to a number of shops in person they have reported lots of customer confusion between Chromebooks and Android, they are also not selling many speculating that these figures are just sales into stock and not to customers. They also see a high percentage of dissatisfaction and returns from customers after a few weeks of ownership. They would rather sell Macs or conventional windows PCs.