Nvidia's High-End Chipset Under Fire for Problems

Nvidia Corp., a leading designer of graphics processor and core-logic sets, is about to face criticism from enthusiasts for the problems that occur with the company's latest premium-class chipset. Apparently, the core-logic's I/O controller has issues with Serial ATA and RAID (redundant array of independent disks) capabilities.

Users in several forums, particularly, in EVGA and Nvidia tech support forums, report about "lock up" and "disk error" issues with Serial ATA hard disk drives and RAID capabilities of the Nvidia nForce 680i SLI core-logic that sells for $120 per two chips alone. Some end users even cannot install Windows XP operating system, whereas others could not use their systems flawlessly for long and some even report data corruption.

Even though the majority of users have stable mainboards, the number of those, who purchased mainboards based on Nvidia nForce 680i chipset and now report instabilities seems to be significant and the problem – widespread. The issues do not seem to have relation to overclocking or Serial ATA working modes. In fact, users reported problems with RAID in case of previous-generation Nvidia nForce chipsets as well, but, perhaps, earlier the problems were not faced by a significant number of users.

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I think i've seen just about enough from nvidia.

I think i'd go AMD/AMD/AMD now if i were building a new machine.

(CPU/Chipset/GPU)

or Intel/Intel/AMD

It hasn't fixed it for everyone. Who knows what they actually 'tweaked' in this BIOS. Some people can't overclock anymore, others are still getting corruption. This issue is far from over and I sure as hell would not buy this board at the moment. At least wait until it is re-reviewed by some reputable sites, using the new 'Final fixed BIOS'.
Just remember that nvidia NEVER actually fixed the problem with nforce4 boards, they just botched a workaround.
History seems to be repeating itself with the 680i!

IT HAS BEEN FIXED BY EVGA with a BIOS Update!!! PLEASE USE GOOGLE/SEARCH NEXT TIME BEFORE POSTING NEWS!!!

Nvidia and ATI now should focus in performance but also in energy, thos new vcard and chipset consume more energy, emits more heat and if it continues like that not even water cooling willl help to cool down those beasts

Just thought I would mentioned that NVIDIA have now released a BETA Bios for owners of the EVGA 680i board. Which they say fixes this problem!! *WOOT* :D

http://www.evga.com/community/messageboard...mp;whichpage=30


This patch should work on any 680i board that uses the reference design. IT WILL NOT work on the Striker or the DFI or any similar boards that are not using the NVIDIA reference board!! you have been warned!

Every part of a PC is starting to boil... I think there's a problem with either heat dissipation, cooling or the loss of heat by composites...

Hello!

The Abit NF7-S was notorious for having S-ATA 'issues'.

Admitedly it was a Silicon Image add-in chipset but it still negatively impacted nVidia's ability to produce a stable S-ATA platform due to association.

laze.

I'm running an NF7-S for almost 2 years on the same format now. But I'm running IDE hard drives in RAID via the SATA adapters. It did take me alot of driver troubleshooting to find one that wouldn't corrupt files though.

For crap's sake, can't they get their chipsets done right. I've had my run-in with disk corruption/PC lockup problems in April because of this nForce4 chipset.

Oh just freaking great, they've inherited the m5288 timeout error that still has not been fixed in some ULi M1575 boards (including my CFX3200).

Works fine for me. 2 Seagate 7200.10 320gb drives worked fine with both raid 0 and raid 1.. Presently running raid 0.

EVGA 680i.

Lol, i had hard drive corruption errors on NF4 and it was widely reported. Several bios and chipset updates later, I can safely install nforce ide/sata drivers and everything would work ok, but not with nvidia firewall enabled. Thats still a no no as it brings back the hard drive corruption problems. To this day its not fully fixed. And now nforce 680i has the same problem. Different chipset, i thought they would have nailed it by now.

SATA, IDE, RAID, are all effected. You still get the errors even if you use a PCI SATA/IDE card or do/don't install NVIDIA drivers.

Sometimes the computer will even lockup installing Windows. It's a MCP error not the South bridge.

Quote - g0wg said @ #13.1
damn

is there anything useful in the thread in EVGA's forum? like when they are gonna release a bios?

NVIDIA have said it's a "Driver Issue" perhaps they mean Software/Bios because we already know it's nothing to do with the Drivers. An EVGA support staffer told one consumer (over the phone) that there would be a fix released in the first week of January however in the support Forums a different EVGA staffer refuted this claim as incorrect.

January? wth! Nice way to "upgrade" lol. I guess I will stick to my nf2 for a little bit more then, unfortunately i already ordered a E6300 and 1GB of ram :/.

PS: evga's forum is down for me

oh f...ing great ... i just bought a evga 680i :/

edit: the issue is with just SATA in RAID mode? or even normal SATA operation is affected? Are IDE drives affected? Guess I will have to stick my SATA drives in icyboxes for the time being.

A friend of mine has been having problems with his nForce chipset for years, I was wondering how long it would be until it got more mainstream attention. He had to turn off some of the more advanced features of his SATA controller to get rid of all the errors, so now his SATA performs like a regular ATA -- great.
I love their graphics chipsets but yeah, this stuff sucks.

I have this motherboard and I have these problems. SATA / IDE Disk errors in the Event Log.

Some people on the EVGA site have said there systems have been stable for 3+ weeks and then they check there event log and see all these Disk Errors which no doubt have caused some kind of data corruption. I hope NVIDIA fix this soon because I'm personally at the end of my rope with this motherboard.

Quote - trparky said @ #10.1
As I pointed out in an earlier comment, try turning off NCQ in the Device Manager.

Please don't give me advice unless you read the EVGA thread. No offence but I've been trouble shooting this for over 2 weeks now and that was done on day 1 not day 14.

This has been an issue since the nForce 4 days. First everyone blamed Maxtor and Seagate, then Maxtor and Seagate blamed nVidia, then nVidia blamed Maxtor and Seagate. It's been a blame-game since the very start.

I got my new machine a few weeks ago, it has an EVGA 680i with mirrored SATA drives and so far everythings been running just fine with XPSP2.

This has nothing to do with nforce 4. It's the new 680i chipset thats got major issues.
I had to rma my Asus striker mobo over this very problem only to have it again and worse with the replacement.
I gave up, boxed it for now and slapped my P5B Deluxe back in.

As ex-Quality Manager for the company I worked for, I can tell you how simple the problem really is.

Speed kills.

Especially in the technology industry. The faster you make your product, the faster you get it thru the assembly line...and the faster you make the quality checkpoints (and in the case of CPU's, the faster the clock cycle)...it's more then inevitable that you will run into problems.

IMHO, it's time for the technology industry to slow down, take a deep breath....and start back up with a steady stream of quality products instead of trying to out-do themselves every
"week" with a new product.

Quote - xMorpheousx416 said @ #6
IMHO, it's time for the technology industry to slow down, take a deep breath....and start back up with a steady stream of quality products instead of trying to out-do themselves every
"week" with a new product.

It's a shame that Nvidia is charging a full $100-250 extra for their 680i boards compared to the p965 boards and they left this SATA problem. If I bought one of those Asus Striker 680i boards for $400 and had this happen, I would go on a shooting spree inside the Asus HQ.

There's a cheaper 650i chipset out, btw, I wonder if it has this same bug?

Still, all the first revision Core 2 Duo boards seem to have major problems with their BIOSes, the JMicron SATA-IDE controller hack, and DDR2 RAM not working at specified voltages. There's alot of buggy junk out there right now, even from companies that are supposedly considered "reliable."

I think that's a bit vague. Is it confined to the SATA or the RAID controller, or is it affecting whole motherboards? Personally I think the idea of having 2 cards running in paralell seems a bit stupid, there must be quite a bit of duplicate functionality then...

I had to buy a new Hard disk for my Nforce 4 system. I had a Maxtor Maxline III 250GB sata drive. Been working fine in my server for the last 6 months. Wont work at all in my nf4 system. Crashes within 5mins of turining on.

That was not using Raid. Just a standard Sata Install. I cant believe they havnt fixed these issues yet.

I've been though it all Including turning NCQ off. It only prevents it happening within minutes. Instead it happens after a few hrs :(

Trust me, I spent weeks on it and got not very far. Talking in a 400+ post thread on the nvidia forums

I wonder if the firewall is still broken too?

Quote - trparky said @ #4.3
Probably the firewall is. Rumor has it that future versions of the nVidia chipset won't have the firewall chip.

Thats a disappointment. It has alot of potential

dude, nvdisp.dll has nothing to do with chipset drivers, it has to do with video card drivers and I find occurs most often when I overclock my card or it becomes too hot. Nothing that Nvidia can fix in their drivers.

When I first built my PC, I was getting event ID51 errors all over the place using Nviida's IDE drivers. That was with a base model nforce4 chipset, so it must be a defect in their overall design.