OEM centres updating WP7 phones with copy and paste

Windows Phone 7 owners who just can't wait until early March to get their dose of copy and paste may have a second option, with some OEM service centres reportedly flashing phones with a ROM containing the new functionality.

Microsoft enthusiast Long Zheng spotted a post over at the xda-developers forums in which a Samsung Omnia 7 user describes his surprise at sending his phone off for a warranty repair and having it come back with a new feature added.

''got Omnia 7 with WP7 7.0.7355.0 v (xxka1 rom). i have copy/paste...,'' lonely2k5 wrote.

Curiously, that build string doesn't line up with one provided by fellow Microsoft enthusiast Rafael Rivera on February 5. According to a tweet by Mr Rivera, the final ''NoDo'' update, which will bring copy and paste to WP7, will be build 7.0.7389. As Mr Long points out, that would put the build lonely2k5 received somewhere between the ''original'' build that has shipped since the launch of Windows Phone, and the NoDo build. According to Neowin sources, NoDo could be released March 8.

Mr Long also points out that given the widely-publicised issues following the recent ''mini-update'' to the Windows Phone platform, it may be wise to hold off having your phone updated to this interim build.

Last week, Neowin also reported that a NoDo build of the Windows Phone OS had been spotted on new WP7 devices shipping in India.

Image Credit: Long Zheng.

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Microsoft has promissed a solution for those 5% of bricked WP7s in 3 days. Those 3 days have passed , did they stand by thier word ? and did Microsoft fix the DataGate YahooMail bug from months ago ?

alexalex said,
Microsoft has promissed a solution for those 5% of bricked WP7s in 3 days. Those 3 days have passed , did they stand by thier word ? and did Microsoft fix the DataGate YahooMail bug from months ago ?

Don't know which rock you came out from, but it is long proven that it is Yahoo's IMAP that is causing "datagate".

Seriously, appending -gate to anything? Stupid fanboygates like the above.

alexalex said,
Microsoft has promissed a solution for those 5% of bricked WP7s in 3 days. Those 3 days have passed , did they stand by thier word ? and did Microsoft fix the DataGate YahooMail bug from months ago ?

Who said those 5% were bricked? Just the update failed to install.

day2die said,

Who said those 5% were bricked? Just the update failed to install.

Microsoft said so : There was a problem with 10% of devices, where 5% were recoveable and 5% "briked".

resol612 said,

Don't know which rock you came out from, but it is long proven that it is Yahoo's IMAP that is causing "datagate".

Who said it was proven ? Yahoo has blamed Microsoft for the "dataGate"
Seriously, appending -gate to anything? Stupid fanboygates like the above.

<ironic> 19 years ago my 8088 with windows 3.1 had copy&paste... </ironic>
Does anyone knows that each application in modern smartphones are sandboxed and it's not so easy to do copy and paste between sandboxed applications? Without considering that WP7 it's barely a beta at this moment...

plur44 said,
<ironic> 19 years ago my 8088 with windows 3.1 had copy&paste... </ironic>
Does anyone knows that each application in modern smartphones are sandboxed and it's not so easy to do copy and paste between sandboxed applications? Without considering that WP7 it's barely a beta at this moment...

Which is why you provide an API which links to a service that can talk between processes. For most cases the onscreen keyboard etc will be a standard called function from an API anyway it shouldn't be that difficult to implement. It should have been something that was designed and worked into the core of the OS from the outset not worked in afterwards.

Unplugged said,
It should have been something that was designed and worked into the core of the OS from the outset not worked in afterwards.
Many things "should" be in the core of the OS from the outset. Time is the restriction, and we *know* it was the restriction.

Well Speaking as a .NET Developer I think it might because of WPF and XAML that makes it this way difficult. while WPF brings out lots of ease to interface design , some easy tasks would be a real pain. I think WPF and XAML is still pre-mature. remains to be seen the future of XAML and whole idea of throwing away all old interface programming. They should think twice about the road they are stepping in to.

dotf said,

It's silverlight, not wpf. there is a distinction, even though they both use XAML.

Silverlight is a subset of WPF. distinction is that silverlight is even further limited. some classes are not available in silverlight though they are available in WPF windows application for instance. Anyways... I think silverlight 5 might change all that by some nice features such as 3D acceleration and many extra features for developers such as Automated UI testing support. it will take Windows Phone into level. As I mentioned it remains to be seen.

Edited by trojan_market, Feb 28 2011, 5:40pm : some added info

So will this update also bring the faster app starting ? WP7 has been going sort of slow. I was sort of expecting flash, html5 and multitasking to be on it by summer.

Gaffney said,
So will this update also bring the faster app starting ? WP7 has been going sort of slow. I was sort of expecting flash, html5 and multitasking to be on it by summer.

aside from flash, the rest have been promised for the fall update. Plus they've added realtime gaming capabilities between the phone and Kinect

what is it now with taking months (sometimes years) to add copy and paste into phones one of my 8 year old Nokias has copy and paste

Unplugged said,
what is it now with taking months (sometimes years) to add copy and paste into phones one of my 8 year old Nokias has copy and paste

i was thinking of a reason, but really cant think of any
looking at the screenshot i also wonder how the word suggestions gives elrod en sitka for world

Edited by ShadowMajestic, Feb 28 2011, 10:43am :

Shadowzz said,

i was thinking of a reason, but really cant think of any
looking at the screenshot i also wonder how the word suggestions gives elrod en sitka for world
E is next to W, L is next to O, R is R, O is next to L, D is D. Same idea for Sitka.

... As for what Elrod and Sitka mean, that's another matter.

Shadowzz said,

i was thinking of a reason, but really cant think of any
looking at the screenshot i also wonder how the word suggestions gives elrod en sitka for world

Think again.
1) What gesture would you use for the feature? Swipes are for scrolling and two finger gestures are for zooming/rotating.
2) Do you know that Apple managed to grab some patents for copy&paste?
3) Copy&paste is meaningless without a clipboard. And making secure clipboard is not easy. Wold you like Angry Birds to grab your bank account password that you copied from bank e-mail?

Unplugged said,
what is it now with taking months (sometimes years) to add copy and paste into phones one of my 8 year old Nokias has copy and paste

I believe is has alot to do with app developers.. they want to make it easy for developers to add it into their apps so it is easy for the users to use everywhere in the phone.. Its pretty easy to add copy and paste when their are no apps.. I think now adays it is mostly about pleasing developers so that they make lots of apps to make users happy.