On April 8th, Microsoft will begin locking users out of WLM in favor of Skype

Microsoft has announced today that on April 8th, you will be forced to upgrade your WLM client and begin using Skype. While not a major surprise as Microsoft has already indicated that the company will be closing down Windows Live messenger, it’s now clear that there is now a final deadline for starting the massive transition.

Skype states on their blog that the upgrade will begin on April 8th with English users and will conclude on the 30th with Brazilian Portuguese.

Here is how it will play out; as of April 8th, you will no longer be able to sign into your Windows Live Messenger account and if you wish to continue chatting with your friends, you will be forced to use the Skype client.

This is a massive transition for Microsoft as it looks to position Skype as its premier messaging service. While you can already migrate your account to Skype, the process is not perfect. When moving over from WLM to Skype, if you have the same contacts on both platforms, you will likely see duplicate accounts on your Skype client. In addition, if you receive spam from a WLM account while using Skype, you can’t block that user from messaging you.

Microsoft has a long way to go to clean up the transition process but it does work, albeit there are a few hiccups in the road. If you haven’t already made the move to Skype from WLM, it’s likely best to make the upgrade sooner, rather than later, as we can imagine on April 8th, there will be quite a few users who will be upset when they find out they can’t login to their account.

Source: Skype Blog

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I've switched to the new hybrid Skype where you can merge your WLM contacts with Skype contacts. The problem with it on, well at least mobile devices is that the WLM portion keeps d/c. I have to completely close out the program and out of memory and restart it for the WLM portion to work again.

If they bring remote assistance to Skype, I'll be happy. My mom often screws her pc with crap and I'm often needed to login to fix it. Bloody Facebook games

Messenger packs about a hundred little features that Skype still doesn't have. And yet Microsoft can't neatly fuse/merge them together into one unified client. I will not use Microsoft IM for any video or text chat hereon. Even the developer of famous A-Patch for WLM said he's gonna focus on Yahoo! Messenger now, not Skype.

You must be on a really old computer if WLM if slow for you... it's blazing fast for me, even on my old low-end Dell.

j2006 said,
You must be on a really old computer if WLM if slow for you... it's blazing fast for me, even on my old low-end Dell.

I'm on a mid-range Dell, and no, it's not "blazing fast". It might be acceptable, but fast isn't fast enough in 2013. Apps need to be more than fast, they need to be responsive, slick, and I hate saying this, but fluid as well.

Same applies to Windows Live Mail, Photo Gallery, and so on.

Skype is horrible compared to WLM right now. WLM has so many more features than Skype, such as, picture sharing, multimedia sharing, FREE SMS, better UI, etc. That said, reading the email that Microsoft/Skype is sending out to users, there is this, so for new users you might be in luck:
So, what's happening after the retirement?
Messenger users on desktops** will not be able to sign in and will only be able to upgrade to Skype. If you attempt to sign in, a notification will appear, and if you continue, you will be taken through our installer flow to install Skype and automatically uninstall Messenger at the same time. I'm thinking that's mainly going to affect XP and Vista users who are stuck using 2009 and 2010 versions.

What's that ** footnote???
** Newer versions of Messenger will be able to receive the optional upgrade notifications. Older versions will not receive the notifications and you will have to download Skype manually.
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Well Windows Essentials 2012 comes with the newest version of Messenger? So maybe we will just receive optional upgrade notifications for not moving to Skype. Skype, from what I understand relies on WLM's IM servers. So here's to hoping

This is a disgrace... I never got the hype about Skype compared to WLM.
If they plan on forcing the switch, they really need to bring in those missing features as stated in the above otherwise it's only going to go downhill from here. I love WLM and tried switching, but it was just so unorganized and missing so many useful features that WLM has.

j2006 said,
This is a disgrace... I never got the hype about Skype compared to WLM.
If they plan on forcing the switch, they really need to bring in those missing features as stated in the above otherwise it's only going to go downhill from here. I love WLM and tried switching, but it was just so unorganized and missing so many useful features that WLM has.

The missing features stated above are no missing features.
Either uninformed people posted it or it where trolls

Also Skype can't share photos or files. I've been using the Skype client but every day I find I miss WLM more because of things I can't do that I normally did. I end up having to use something else. So, if I have to use something else in the end, why bother using Skype at all?

Skype can share imagery, and like WLM. you can even just paste an image from your clipboard.(like a screenshot) into the chatbox. And it will sent it as a file.

As a file yes, but WLM does much more. When you add a picture it allows both you and the other person to view the picture. Same goes with youtube videos and web searches. It's a reduction in function and one feature that I always use.

the windows 8 app version cannot at the moment (it gives a warning saying not available "yet" which means soon I hope so, it's very sleek... I just hope they don't dump the project like Yahoo did to it's awesome vista messenger.

Sucks because the WLM client is a lot better than the Skype client and the Skype client is missing important functionality.

Like Offline Messaging!
My friend and I have to be online at the same time in order to receive messages that were sent after I went offline in the last conversation.

@billyea: You're trolling, right?

WLM's offline messages are garbage compared to Skype's. Also, you can send files to offline contacts using Skype. You're lucky if WLM's offline messages even deliver, I've never had a Skype offline message fail.

Please stop spreading incorrect information, thank you

Not trolling at all. I use Skype on a regular basis (and don't have WLM anymore).

Due to the primarily peer-to-peer nature of Skype's messaging system, "offline" messaging doesn't exist. Instead, offline messages are kept on the sender's client and then sent from one client to another when both are online. But if, for example, I send a message to my friend and then go offline before he comes online (very frequent when dealing across timezones), he will NOT receive it until I come online. If this message contained important information I wanted him to read ASAP regardless if I was online or not, this feature has failed me.

You can observe this phenomenon if you get someone to message you when you are offline. Then they go fully offline and the you come back online. You will NOT receive the message.

billyea said,
Like Offline Messaging!
My friend and I have to be online at the same time in order to receive messages that were sent after I went offline in the last conversation.

It works...what are you talking about?

billyea said,
Not trolling at all. I use Skype on a regular basis (and don't have WLM anymore).

Due to the primarily peer-to-peer nature of Skype's messaging system, "offline" messaging doesn't exist. Instead, offline messages are kept on the sender's client and then sent from one client to another when both are online. But if, for example, I send a message to my friend and then go offline before he comes online (very frequent when dealing across timezones), he will NOT receive it until I come online. If this message contained important information I wanted him to read ASAP regardless if I was online or not, this feature has failed me.

You can observe this phenomenon if you get someone to message you when you are offline. Then they go fully offline and the you come back online. You will NOT receive the message.


You are talking out of your arse.
Skype messages go through a server.
Skype phonecalles go through a server.
File transaction go through a server.
Skype hasn't been P2P for ages.

I can send an offline message, close the Skype program, shut down myc omputer. Set the whole shebang on fire.
But my mate will still receive the message.... strange huh if its p2p.

Shadowzz said,

You are talking out of your arse.
Skype messages go through a server.
Skype phonecalles go through a server.
File transaction go through a server.
Skype hasn't been P2P for ages.

I can send an offline message, close the Skype program, shut down myc omputer. Set the whole shebang on fire.
But my mate will still receive the message.... strange huh if its p2p.


The use case I described does not work on my computer. Why not try it out?

The Skype protocol itself is P2P (ref: the Wikipedia entry), relying on a network of supernodes in order to relay communications if UDP hole punching is required. Otherwise, connections are made directly.

billyea said,

The use case I described does not work on my computer. Why not try it out?

The Skype protocol itself is P2P (ref: the Wikipedia entry), relying on a network of supernodes in order to relay communications if UDP hole punching is required. Otherwise, connections are made directly.


Strange if its all P2P that Skype is logging everything.
Also as I mentioned somewhere here,
I can sent an offline message, kill the Skype client, even turn of the computer. While my contact is offline. Yet he still receives the message when he logs in while my Skype isn't running. Shouldn't be possible at all if it was P2P.

We're both arguing from personal experience now. We're going to need a Skype expert to come in and clarify the technology behind the scenes in order to continue.

(A theory I have is that a supernode can temporarily store messages to make this work, but the supernode has to be online)

Shadowzz said,

You are talking out of your arse.
Skype messages go through a server.
Skype phonecalles go through a server.
File transaction go through a server.
Skype hasn't been P2P for ages.

I can send an offline message, close the Skype program, shut down myc omputer. Set the whole shebang on fire.
But my mate will still receive the message.... strange huh if its p2p.

I love the Internet where every Tom, Dick, and Harry is an expert.

billyea is correct, Skype is a client-to-client architecture, especially when regards to messaging. It syncs to all connected devices any messages only when those devices are online. It does NOT sit them on an intermediary server as IM offline messaging traditionally does. Effectively, Skype has no offline messaging support.

But what do Billyea and I know? Hell, I guess Skype also doesn't know how this feature works...

https://support.skype.com/en/f...t-is-not-signed-in-to-skype

Don't you just love it when you know you're right, but the person who argues doesn't know jack and thinks they knows more than you?

Hahaha jeez at least don't make yourself look like a fool.

And yeah I hate the offline messages on Skype, it sucks. =/