OpenSUSE 10.2 Goes Gold

Despite loud arguments over Novell and Microsof's relationship, and attempts by Ubuntu to talk OpenSUSE developers into coming over to their distribution, OpenSUSE 10.2 has arrived sooner than expected. This latest community Linux distribution from Novell, SUSE, and friends is based on a 2.6.18.2 Linux kernel. Users can choose between the KDE 3.5.5 or GNOME 2.16.1 desktop environments, both of which run on top of the X.Org 7.2rc2 windowing system.

When you first install openSUSE, the YaST partitioner now defaults to create new file systems using the ext3 file system. In the past, SUSE distributions had defaulted to using ReiserFS. If you plan on using OpenSUSE as a server, you'll find the usual popular server applications ready to go. These include the Apache 2.2.3 webserver, and the MediaWiki 1.8.2 wiki software.

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Anyone having issues with the Copy To.. / Move To... function within konquerer once changing the default setups to whatever you like? It appears to disappear on me when I do this? Default install, it's there. Change the settings and it's gone even though the configuration is seutp to allow this. Any ideas?

Wonder if the Novell-Microsoft deal is the reason you won't be able to go to the nearest computer store and buy this in the U.S....

Nope, that's because this is openSuse - the freeware (opensource) version which is only downloadable (afaik). You should still be able to buy the regular version

I thought they had actually renamed the product OpenSUSE although there still is an OSS version available the easist to downalod seems to be the non-OSS version. And that they were still going to sell this version in stores.

Quote - bmaher said @ #7.1
Nope, that's because this is openSuse - the freeware (opensource) version which is only downloadable (afaik). You should still be able to buy the regular version

Check your sources, dude.

Novell will sell OpenSUSE too, in addition to SLES and SLED.
I'm talking about the boxed set of OpenSUSE, which will be sold ONLY at Novell's web site in the U.S. In Europe you can buy at local computer stores....my question is why they don't do that in the U.S. too.

Well, now running Suse 10.2 and from the first impressions, it's quite nice.. ZEN updates still having problems getting updates, but SMART still works great for package management.. openSuse Update Adapter seems to work ok, but will need to test is a little more.. Main menus are different and so is package selections.. Things are grouped together.. Some may not like it since it is a different design.. Main menu reminds me of Vista a little bit.. Click this, to expand click to the right and it scrolls that way to reveal more items.. Testing ongoing..

What update problems are you having? There's very few updates available for this newly released version.

Did you do the Online Update Configuration via YAST first? Once I did that, I had instant updates to the SuSE updates. 3rd party stuff like Guru and Packman can be added in as well via the usual Installation Source route. I had no issues doing so.

Quote - Imaginos said @ #5.1
What update problems are you having? There's very few updates available for this newly released version.

Did you do the Online Update Configuration via YAST first? Once I did that, I had instant updates to the SuSE updates. 3rd party stuff like Guru and Packman can be added in as well via the usual Installation Source route. I had no issues doing so.

There were three updates available when I did the fresh install; tar, openssl and one other. When I tried to install them, I got the normal "can't resolve dependicies" error.. Setup SMART and it got them without any issues.

The Jem Report is definitely a good read, and is the first thing I do when installing.

That being said, installing apps isn't much of an issue for me, if its not in the repository I haven't had many problems, and if it is in the repository then there obviously aren't problems. My Suse box does almost everything my Windows box does, and if it doesn't I dual boot, plus run VMplayer to immediately access Windows if I want to be lazy (though, this would apply to all linux distros).

In the end, are you really installing apps all that much? At some point most people reach equilibrium and aren't installing apps all that often. If you have a problem just consult the readme, it's usually enough.

Ubuntu gives a false sense of knowing Linux, I guarantee if you throw many Ubuntu users into Fedora or any enterprise version of linux, that they get completely lost.

To me, Ubuntu is a poor man's version of Windows. It's not to say I dislike Ubuntu at all, it's my favorite live distro (besides Backtrack ;)) and is definitely recommended for someone that is new to Linux; and it was the first distro I used, but I quickly got fed up with the irritations of a basically Windows environment with less app support. Distro's like Fedora and Suse are very superior and have all the benefits of Ubuntu besides the n00b readyness.

EDIT: And updates are cake, especially with the jem reports tweaks.

SuSe is a good distribution. A nice desktop linux that isn't quite as much of a babying linux as Ubuntu, plus it's relatively standard (along with Redhat) in the professional world.

I'm running it along side my other operating systems and am pretty happy with it, now, whether I'll upgrade to 10.2 right now is a different story.

For all the people that use Ubuntu, just use Suse, it's just as easy for the most part, more standard/stable, and has better support. I don't understand the fascination with Ubuntu besides for people who have absolutely no idea how to use Linux; though I guess that is a strong enough reason.

BTW - Any word on whether this supports Atheros cards?

My only interest in Ubuntu has been the ease with which I can install new programs and updates. Is there something similar with openSUSE?

Quote - jluckett said @ #3.1
My only interest in Ubuntu has been the ease with which I can install new programs and updates. Is there something similar with openSUSE?

Yeah, I'll have to wait and see what 10.2 uses/does, but the ZEN updater on 10.1 was really bad. So what a lot of people were doing was installing SMART and using this for updates, installs, etc. Then just Googl'ing for "hacking Suse 10.1" (Jem Report), it'll show you how to add different repositories (Guru and Packman mainly), to download and install pretty much any package out there. There's isn't much that I haven't found in these repositories; there are a couple things, but they tend to be updated frequently with the latest updates, etc.

Good Luck! I really like 10.1, downloaded 10.2 and will have to play around with it this weekend..

Quote - jluckett said @ #3.1
My only interest in Ubuntu has been the ease with which I can install new programs and updates. Is there something similar with openSUSE?

Sure, it's called RPM :P