Opera Mini tops every App Store free list

Well, who could have expected this? Opera Mini, just accepted a few days ago into Apple’s App Store, has now topped every single App Store list as the most downloaded free app

It’s not uncommon for apps to top the charts for several countries at release, but it is a rare sight to see an app dominate all 22 countries at once. When Opera announced Opera Mini for iPhone OS, many were skeptical that Apple would even allow a competing non-WebKit browser into their own store. With Monday’s approval though, it seems that many iPhone and iPod touch owners are genuinely interested to see what Opera Mini has to offer. 

Opera Mini claims to provide the fastest browsing experience on slower connections due to its server-side data compression feature. Other features include Speed Dial, unlimited tab browsing, and full page searching. Click here to download through the iTunes App Store.

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I am retracting all i said about opera on iphone. Opera is the **** on iphone! Find on page, full screen browsing, fast "back" on pages... I didnt work before because my iphone needed a reboot. But damn, i am posting from opera iphine right now.

Can't stand how it handles tabs. It becomes pretty much unusable with many tabs open. Safari definitely does a better job at this. I also found out that more sites work with Safari than Opera.

Sigh, enough about that crap now
it fails to render so many pages, even pages made for the iPhone and when a iPhone browser fails at that, that's a pretty epic fail

I wonder how many who downloaded it keept it though

and who were everone so surprised? You know there are several browsers in the AppStore right?

Leonick said,
and who were everone so surprised? You know there are several browsers in the AppStore right?

Not sure but I would others are frontends to Apple WebKit engine though Opera uses its own engine and thus "replicates" existing phone functionality.

Leonick said,
and who were everone so surprised? You know there are several browsers in the AppStore right?

Not sure but I would others are frontends to Apple WebKit engine though Opera uses its own engine and thus "replicates" existing phone functionality.

Leonick said,
it fails to render so many pages, even pages made for the iPhone and when a iPhone browser fails at that, that's a pretty epic fail

The only epic fail here is yours.

You are assuming that Opera Mini is even getting the iPhone page. But since it doesn't identify as Safari, it probably gets some generic mobile browser page instead.

What you get is not determined by the browser, but by the site.

Also, why would Opera have to work on iPhone sites anyway? It was never designed exclusively for the iPhone.

Fail, fail, fail.

PreKe said,
Also, why would Opera have to work on iPhone sites anyway? It was never designed exclusively for the iPhone.

That you're even asking that question is beyond me.

.Neo said,
That you're even asking that question is beyond me.

That is because you don't understand mobile browsing.

I fully agree about the bad rendering and usage (too many touches to perform the same actions as in Safari, too hard to click on small links like page numbers in forums...). But when my phone gets on a crappy Edge connection (enhanced GPRS), Opera loads full sized pages at least as fast as Safari on 3G if not more, and this is where it can save you from the nervous breakdown!
Still hope they enhance their app in a future update though.

I liked it the first 20 mins I used it, but noticed major sites don't even load correctly, back to safari. your mobile version sucks more than your desktop one.

Not tried it since by Sony W850i. UI hasn't changed much, pages load fast, crapola of rendering errors regarding image / text placements that work ok in Safari Mobile, Safari, FireFox & IE8.

How does Opera make money off of this? I don't see any adverts or anything.... not only are they giving away the software but the servers that process the web sites are working for the users for what seems like for free. What am I missing?

Shadrack said,
How does Opera make money off of this? I don't see any adverts or anything.... not only are they giving away the software but the servers that process the web sites are working for the users for what seems like for free. What am I missing?

I assume Google is giving them some money for allowing them to be the default search engine?

advancedboy said,

I assume Google is giving them some money for allowing them to be the default search engine?

Yup, default search engines (in toolbars and home pages) have been the money makers for browsers for the large part of the time they've been free.

No doubt Opera keeps a general pattern of browsing habits tracked for people who use...what's it called, Turbo? I don't know why anyone would suspect personal information is in the mix, since such a vast amount of personal info wouldn't really be useful to advertisers.

best mobile browser out there. i ran it on winmo and now android, doesn't get much faster than that. i wish flash would work but oh well. too bad the desktop version of opera sucks IMO.

Just a warning to everyone. DO NOT use this for secure sites such as banking, email, etc. The fact that Opera is a "man in the middle" is a massive security hole. This is especially important for my fellow corporate users who can (and do) access their corporate email "externally".

P.S. Aside from that warning, Opera Mini's a pretty fast browser. I might even replace Safari for non-secure sites.

MrA said,
Just a warning to everyone. DO NOT use this for secure sites such as banking, email, etc. The fact that Opera is a "man in the middle" is a massive security hole.

You should only worry about that if you don't trust Opera. There's no massive security hole here since the communication between the Opera Mini server and browser is secure.

Well, makes sense, curiosity. I downloaded it also, tried it, found out that the full page preview is the biggest **** ever, uninstalled it, gave three stars.

i just tried the app yesterday, and it's really fast, there's no comparation between safari load times and Opera, the multitab feature it's really nice, and the cache browsing, full-screen, the home screen it's really usefull.

Some gestures dont work on landscape, and the scrolling it's kinda rigid. but i think they will improve in the next releases.

Danielr0y said,
I want to use it... but after some decent usage I'm finding myself switching back to safari already

It isn't meant to replace Safari, but it's very useful when you are not on a wifi connection.

Why does it have to be either one or the other? Use the right tool for the job.

I'm still hoping to get my hands on it, since it appears not to work on my ipod touch, the app just stays with the loading icon spinning and doesn't work at all....at the end it's just a matter of having different options.

I really like the App, Full screen, speed dials and yes hell speedier loading.

But I need javascript, I hate using gmail on opera.

Jordan Wharmsby said,

Same here, installed, tried, deleted. =/

deleted from my phone, but still have the IPA on my computer just in case

Edited by timster, Apr 15 2010, 12:05am :

Its nice to have another option. I've tried Mercury aswell, but I still perfer Safari - it renders pages better and is quicker at starting up. Mercury is not a bad effort either - i like how its completely full screen.

They need to work out with lots of things, the first one is the pinch zoom feature: it sucks.

The next one is a file manager such as Download Pro and Mercury Browser.

But anyways, I must agree with the horde, the Best Browser when you have the crappiest connection.

Jose_49 said,
They need to work out with lots of things, the first one is the pinch zoom feature: it sucks.

It doesn't have a pinch zoom feature. It only has two levels of zoom. Just tap where you want to zoom instead.

bbfc_uk said,

Safari on my iPhone has never crashed!

It has crashed on me a couple of times. I think every time it crashed I was looking at the mobile version of DeviantArt.

EVANK said,
OMG ***k *e at last a proper browser other than crashing Safari.

Opera Mini isn't a proper browser. =/ It's a speedy, basic mobile browser. And at less than 2MB don't expect it to replace Safari.

Shadrack said,

It has crashed on me a couple of times. I think every time it crashed I was looking at the mobile version of DeviantArt.

if it's not crashing on anything else, don't jump the gun and go blaming Safari

because nothing stays on the top of that list for long, wonder if they will sue when it falls and blame apple.

i would also like to see usage statistics a month or 2 after, as i know i download alot of free app's, then remove them a day or 2 later

Hell-In-A-Handbasket said,
because nothing stays on the top of that list for long, wonder if they will sue when it falls and blame apple.

lmao

Hell-In-A-Handbasket said,
because nothing stays on the top of that list for long, wonder if they will sue when it falls and blame apple.

Why would they do that?

Hell-In-A-Handbasket said,
because nothing stays on the top of that list for long, wonder if they will sue when it falls and blame apple.

i would also like to see usage statistics a month or 2 after, as i know i download alot of free app's, then remove them a day or 2 later

ignorant trolling warning

Maybe this extra amount of free press can push them to quickly fix up the bugs in Opera Mini (mainly page rendering, and for some odd reason the bookmarks aren't syncing via Link).

But an impressive accomplishment overall.

rm20010 said,
Maybe this extra amount of free press can push them to quickly fix up the bugs in Opera Mini (mainly page rendering, and for some odd reason the bookmarks aren't syncing via Link).

They won't "fix page rendering" just like that. There are billions of sites out there. There's no magic switch to flip to fix stuff.

well, anyway it sucks, 80% of pages looks terrible, may be a next version will be better. What you can really see here is a HUGE need for a browser/default app alternative. Expect that behavior if MS releases Live Messenger or Mozilla a Firefox version

Draken said,
well, anyway it sucks, 80% of pages looks terrible, may be a next version will be better. What you can really see here is a HUGE need for a browser/default app alternative. Expect that behavior if MS releases Live Messenger or Mozilla a Firefox version

I agree. Safari loads the pages relatively fast on my Wifi connection. With Opera Mini, the pages are blank for 2-3 seconds then they start loading.

crispkreme said,

I agree. Safari loads the pages relatively fast on my Wifi connection. With Opera Mini, the pages are blank for 2-3 seconds then they start loading.

Exactly! I think 99% of those users are going to see how pages look and switch back to Safari. I did.

crispkreme said,

I agree. Safari loads the pages relatively fast on my Wifi connection. With Opera Mini, the pages are blank for 2-3 seconds then they start loading.

This app is not meant to replace Safari. It is meant for people who are in spotty 3G areas or area's without WiFi, where browsing the web would be very slow. The app translates a web page into it's own markup language which is smaller in size when compared to the original page, allowing the web page to load faster, as less data is downloaded.

Read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_mini

Ryoken said,
It's almost as though it's new, and has had a lot or press or something..

True Opera Mini had a lot of buzz going for it, and that sort of stuff use to be short-lived. See also, uh, Google Wave, and so on.

einsteinbqat said,
Different, but not better than Mobile Safari.

I agree, if you have a fast connection. If you are on crappy Edge (2g) network Opera Mini is a god send.

Shadrack said,

I agree, if you have a fast connection. If you are on crappy Edge (2g) network Opera Mini is a god send.

That I agree. 1st-gen iPhone or 3G-disabled iPhone would benefit from Opera mini. But otherwise, Mobile Safari is still the best.

Shadrack said,

I agree, if you have a fast connection. If you are on crappy Edge (2g) network Opera Mini is a god send.


Yeah, that may really be among its few uses.

It doesn't do Javascript, it renders many sites incorrectly, it has a pretty awkward zoom feature, and when switching to use landscape mode, the websites don't adjust properly to it.

If anything, Opera Mini shows the world beyond 2G that speed isn't everything you need from a browser.

Edited by Northgrove, Apr 15 2010, 7:33am :

Northgrove said,
It doesn't do Javascript, it renders many sites incorrectly, it has a pretty awkward zoom feature, and when switching to use landscape mode, the websites don't adjust properly to it.

It does do JavaScript, but it handles it on the servers. I don't think it renders more sites incorrectly than Safari.

The zoom feature is much simpler and easier than Safari. Instead of constantly adjusting your zoom level, you just tap once where you want to zoom.

When switching to landscape mode you need to reload for it to fit. Remember that Opera Mini basically gets served an "image" perfectly adapted to your screen width. So when you change that, it still shows the same image.

If anything, Opera Mini shows the world beyond 2G that speed isn't everything you need from a browser.

Opera Mini is faster on 3G as well.