OS X v10.5 Leopard Available October 26, Pre-order Today

Back in April, Apple announced a delay from June to October for the next version of its operating system due to needs of the iPhone program. Well, October has finally arrived. The company says that OS X v10.5, which is now expected to ship on October 26, contains over 300 new features and "installs easily, and works with the software and accessories you already have." Some of the highlighted features include a revamped desktop, a new Finder which includes Cover Flow technology, Quick Look which gives full-scale previews of documents before opening them and Time Machine which creates incremental backups of files.

A single-user license costs just $129.00 direct from Apple while a five-user license will set you back just $199.00. Customers who pre-order OS X v10.5 today from Apple are guaranteed to have their copy on their doorstep on October 26.

Link: Pre-order OS X v10.5
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For all those saying why can't I install it on my PC. There are 2 reasons Apple does not let you.

1. Having OS X run on there computers only gives them hardware sales.

2. They would need a lot more drivers and people would just complain a lot that it was not compatible with <Insert anything here>. Apple knows what they have released and know what drivers need to be included.

Also those dissing Time Machine yes in theory it's the same as System Restore/Shadow Copy but when was the last time you saw the average person using or even knowing what a Shadow Copy is? Apple has presented Time Machine in a much better way and easier to use. The average consumer will use this.

cloudstrife13 said,
Also those dissing Time Machine yes in theory it's the same as System Restore/Shadow Copy but when was the last time you saw the average person using or even knowing what a Shadow Copy is? Apple has presented Time Machine in a much better way and easier to use. The average consumer will use this.

Most Windows users do indeed know what System Restore is.

Meanwhile, Shadow Copy is in Vista, so it's a silly comparison. Much like with Leopard and Time Machine, most people who immediately bought Vista did know what Shadow Copy was.

Kirkburn said,

Most Windows users do indeed know what System Restore is.

Meanwhile, Shadow Copy is in Vista, so it's a silly comparison. Much like with Leopard and Time Machine, most people who immediately bought Vista did know what Shadow Copy was.


Maybe on this forum but if you check the majority of actual Windows users most will have no idea.

As I've said before, the underlying tech between Shadow Copy and Time Machine is completely different. Heck the UI is what really shows you the difference and people still cling to the notion that they work similarly! ... And to even suggest that System Restore is remotely the same is laughable.

Leopard isn't about the big features, honestly. You have to use OS X in order to want the next version (obvious in some ways, but I have different reasoning). Leopard is more about the small tweaks and changes than the big features like Time Machine and Boot Camp and Finder and Quick Look and the new Dock.. Those are nice features, but the 311 other smaller features are more important: they just make the experience better. You can't say this update is not worth it unless you have been using Tiger for a few months. Use Tiger (on a real mac), then take a look at the changes, and you'll see the advantages, and how it's worth it.

Anyone who doesn't use OS X can say this isn't worth it, but they have no reason for it anyway.

And yes, I have pre-ordered, I can't wait

Perhaps you might be over simplifying? There are quite a number of features I'm looking forward to. Often it's the little ones that aren't even mentioned that you find most useful...

I wish ppl would stop comparing Time Machine to System Restore/Volume Shadow Copy. The two are totally different. If you bothered to read up on what Time Machine actually does compared to the Windows equivalent you'll see that Time Machine is light years ahead.

Totally different... so... Time Machine backs up data... System Restore/Shadow Copy backs up data... allright. They are not different, they are practically the same, just that Time Machine has the ability of choosing where to store your data, and what precise data, which is very good, yes, but not totally different.

kraized said,
...Machine is light years ahead.

You don't have the faintest idea what this idiom is meant to mean. The two "non-features" both serve the same function and have minor differences between them.

Islander said,
Totally different... so... Time Machine backs up data... System Restore/Shadow Copy backs up data... allright. They are not different, they are practically the same, just that Time Machine has the ability of choosing where to store your data, and what precise data, which is very good, yes, but not totally different.

The actual way each backs up data (hard links, etc.) is completely different. The architecture doesn't work in any way the same. Also, being able to pick individuals files and being able to search the archive is a great leap forward in backup solutions. I hope other companies pick this tech up. In the end, it's like comparing a Model T and a Mercedes C class.

QuarterSwede said,
...being able to pick individuals files and being able to search the archive is a great leap forward in backup solutions. I hope other companies pick this tech up.

Um, they have, for let's see, the past 20 years?! It's stunning to see how little these Apple users know about the other 96% of the computer using world.

I love Apple's products, but the key to understanding what's the best tool for a given job is to actually be EDUCATED about the different strengths and weaknesses of a given tool, whether it's an OEM kiosk, or a home computer.

eilegz said,
paying for a service pack only apple do that

and the worst thing its that people will buy it anyways.

OS X 10.5 is not a service pack - it is a major release of the operating system. 10.5.1, 10.5.2, and so forth could be considered "service packs" as they would be small fixes/enhancements to 10.5.

paying for a service pack only apple do that

So going by that ridiculous logic Windows NT 5.1 was just a service pack for NT 5.0, right?

Sorry, you fail.

Look at all the Windows service packs. With the exception of XP SP 2, none gave you any new features. They're just bug fixes. XP SP 2 was really a bug fix too - purely providing more security features. Microsoft would tell you the same.

eilegz said,
paying for a service pack only apple do that

and the worst thing its that people will buy it anyways.


Sigh. Do people even know what they are talking about anymore? Why does no one research!?

I've also pre-ordered today. Would be nice if it arrived before the 26th like some have experienced before. I'm really looking forward to Leopard, lots of things I like in that feature list :nuts:

I had a quick look at the site but couldn't really see what's new. It seems the biggest features are Time Machine (basically System Restore / Complete PC Backup on Windows) and the ability to run Windows. It's a bit ironic that one of the main features is the ability to run a competing operating system... why not just buy a PC? They're cheaper.

I guess I just don't like Apple's tied-to-the-hardware philosophy - if OSX was to run on general PCs then I would seriously consider getting it but I won't pay over the odds for a machine that does less.

why not just buy a PC? They're cheaper.

Because you can't run OS X on non-Apple hardware legally. Why is that so hard to for most to understand?

I used to not like Apple either, until OS X. I'll pay the premium, which isn't really that great when you use your computer to make a living(tax write-off!), to have an OS that is unobtrusive and easy to manage. Windows I'll put in a VM and use it only when I absolutely have to, which these days is rare.


I went through that list, and I'm amazed how they could use the slogan "Even Leopard innovations have innovations.". Example:
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Wow, amazing, they just invented something new! Innovation!
Let's face it, if we really made a list of new features, we won't reach 50. Which is not bad, but does it justify the price? Of course if you get a new Mac anyway, it's surely ok... otherwise... not.

Islander said,

I went through that list, and I'm amazed how they could use the slogan "Even Leopard innovations have innovations.". Example:

Wow, amazing, they just invented something new! Innovation!
Let's face it, if we really made a list of new features, we won't reach 50. Which is not bad, but does it justify the price? Of course if you get a new Mac anyway, it's surely ok... otherwise... not.

Yes, it justifies the price. Some single features justify the price in themselves. I spend about 8 hours a day on my computer, $130 is not much spread over the next 2 years or so, is it, if it makes my life even infinitesimally better.

Seriously, if Microsoft applied this same "new features" logic to Vista, they'd come up with a figure close to or even surpassing 300 features. (Check the Wikipedia page.) Both OSes have many new features/changes, most of them under the hood.

But apparently because MS is accused of "copying" almost the entire Vista UI from Apple they'd get flamed to death for using a slogan similar to "300 new features that have innovation within innovation" in Vista's marketing.

azcodemonkey said,

Because you can't run OS X on non-Apple hardware legally. Why is that so hard to for most to understand?


AHAHHAAHAHA..... ok, let me get this straight:

CPUs: Intel
Graphics: Either ATI or Nvidia
Memory: Corsair, Kingston, OCZ
Hard drives: Samsung, Seagate, Maxtor, WD
Power Supplies: ....etc....

other than the motherboards, where are you getting that Macs are all "Apple" hardware??

He means you can't run it on a non-Macintosh, ie non-Apple hardware. He didn't say that Apple made the components inside.

Time Machine is much more than system restore/backup. See my comment below or look it up. It's much better than any current system restore paradigm out there.

rm20010 said,
Seriously, if Microsoft applied this same "new features" logic to Vista, they'd come up with a figure close to or even surpassing 300 features.

It would vastly exceed 300. I mean, you could take a single feature like UAC or the new audio stack and split into like 30 features using Apple's logic.

I mean, if you actually sat down, and documented all of the "new features" in Explorer alone, you could probably come up with a list easily over 50.

Also keep in mind that Vista was a huge release. It includes a lot more changes/improvements that, well, really any previous release.

LTD said,
Time Machine is ... much better than any current system restore paradigm out there.

I think you should research what other solutions exist in the multi-billion software backup market. Such research keeps one from seeming thoroughly uninformed to the point of absurdity.

Because Apple hasn't written the tens of millions of lines of driver code needed to support the nigh infinitely vast numbers of hardware devices one can (and many do) use under the Windows operating systems.

Does 10.5 only support Intel procs?

Edit, NVM:

Minimum System Requirements

* · Mac computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5, or PowerPC G4 (867MHz or faster) processor

I wonder if this will be a worthwhile upgrade for my Mac Mini G4 1.2GHz..... comments, suggestions?

Shadrack said,
I wonder if this will be a worthwhile upgrade for my Mac Mini G4 1.2GHz..... comments, suggestions?

I dunno about yours, but my Mac Mini is slow enough just trying to run OSX 1.0.4

Pc_Madness said,

I dunno about yours, but my Mac Mini is slow enough just trying to run OSX 1.0.4 :p

Seems like 10.4 made my system run faster than 10.3...although I've noticed that it seems slower recently. I just use my Mac Mini for some video watching and some music playing.

night_stalker_z said,
The minimum requirements are quite low. Cant remember when the windows requirements were this low. :P

You can't remember Windows XP?! (which had the same reqs as Windows 2000/NT for all intents and purposes)

Unless you are VERY old, you might want to see a doctor about that! :nuts:

His "leopard surprise" is just a way to increase the hits on his site.

Ordered my Leopard today and hope Apple lives up to the 'delivery on 26th' promise.....

i think they will beat that date, everything i have pre-ordered from apple has gotten to me Well in advance of a release date

Raven said,
His "leopard surprise" is just a way to increase the hits on his site.

Ordered my Leopard today and hope Apple lives up to the 'delivery on 26th' promise.....

Pre-ordered for $21 Got the student discount plus the $100 gift card for being an early adopter of the iPhone makes it out to be $21.