Petition aims to bring Google Apps to Windows Phone

The state of Google Apps on Windows Phone is rather poor, often requiring dodgy workarounds to enable critical features such as multiple calendars. Things are set to get even worse thanks to the announcement that Google will be dropping Exchange ActiveSync support for Gmail in January, forcing people to switch to a different and potentially inferior protocol for mail, calendar and contacts sync.

A significant portion of Windows Phone users rely on popular Google services including Gmail, so a petition has surfaced from the guys at WMPowerUser that will hopefully draw Google's attention to the state of their apps on rival platforms. The petition, posted on Change.org, says that by Google not supporting Windows Phone, "consumers suffer" and that Google will do a "great service to their users and consumers by offering some products" on rival platforms.

As Google primarily makes money from the services they provide, it makes sense for them to provide a decent user experience across multiple platforms. Currently their services are shoddy at best on Windows Phone, and that could easily be remedied - just look at the recent and fantastic implementation of Google Maps for iOS, a great app on a rival platform.

If you want to sign the petition, you can do so here.

Source: WMPowerUser

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As an Android user today, I am decided to setup my Outlook.com account to sync my Google data, calendar, contacts and gmail so as I get ready to sell my new GN2 and look for something in the current WP8 offerings from Verizon until a "high end" WP8 device comes along. I vote with my wallet and I can continue to send/receive my gapps related stuff as if it was native without needing to support Google.

LOL YES!!!! I just got my Lumia 920 today and first thing I did was clean out all the nokia and bing products in anticipation for Google apps.

Whoops!

Once the market share for Windows Phone increases past a certain point it will be in Google's own interest to produce apps for the platform. Its one of those things that im sure will happen eventually. Many of you who want these apps have already done the best most likely thing to influence them and that is buying in to WP.

I wish people would stop saying things like "I HATE GOOGLE PRODUCTS" in the comments on the petition. It's stupid. We're trying to get them to support the best mobile OS in the world, not dismiss it. And almost no one can say that there's not a single Google Product that they use every day. For me, it's Google+ and Google Reader. There's some pretty excellent Google Reader clients, like NextGen Reader, but I don't think anything can beat a first party experience.

If the excuse "you know what you're getting when you buy it" flies for those that don't like Windows 8, it flies for those that buy Windows Phone as well. Google have absolutely no obligation to release their apps for Windows Phone, it's their choice.

Javik said,
If the excuse "you know what you're getting when you buy it" flies for those that don't like Windows 8, it flies for those that buy Windows Phone as well. Google have absolutely no obligation to release their apps for Windows Phone, it's their choice.

I agree with this message.

If you really need google maps gmaps app for wp8 rocks. even has latitude support. I only use that app for latitude though because I use nokia drive + on my phone. I live on long island so the actual streets are right so that's all that counts.

I only use google apps for work , I use the Hotmail section for my personal calendars .

That's a big 'if'. It hasn't taken off yet, so Google has no incentive to making Google apps for that platform. One reason why I can't use WP, I love my HTC Trophy, but a lack of Google integration is a deal breaker.

Google Apps for Business will continue EAS support. The current EAS support works fine. If Microsoft want to lure Gmail users who are not prepared to fully switch to Outlook.com onto WP8 they will need to support the ancient inferior industry standard IMAP, CalDAV and CardDAV. Then people may switch if they are impressed with Microsoft's offering that got themselves in the door. Microsoft need to throw everything they can to get their platforms off the ground, at the moment there is a lot of smoke and noise but it's just a static fire because it's not taking off.

Simon- said,
Google Apps for Business will continue EAS support. The current EAS support works fine. If Microsoft want to lure Gmail users who are not prepared to fully switch to Outlook.com onto WP8 they will need to support the ancient inferior industry standard IMAP, CalDAV and CardDAV. Then people may switch if they are impressed with Microsoft's offering that got themselves in the door. Microsoft need to throw everything they can to get their platforms off the ground, at the moment there is a lot of smoke and noise but it's just a static fire because it's not taking off.


EAS is greater than the caldav imap and whatever you mentioned put together... Am quite suprise how those stuffs are still the industry standard...

Ah! Petitions! I just click and people start to listen. Peoples' beliefs in some kind of democracy. Google will only do if they can make money and if Microsoft let them publish. That is how the market works. Think what you would do in their situation as a company and you'll stop worrying about things not worth worrying about.

Only 1500?? They should at least target 10,000.

They are attaching no value to the petition by asking for such a small number.

dtourond said,
1,500 isn't all that bad..

Even though it's such a pathetically tiny proportion of users that it's basically insignificant? To be fair, even 10,000 isn't much. They should really aim for (a lot) more now that they're getting some publicity.

Manish said,
Even though it's such a pathetically tiny proportion of users that it's basically insignificant? To be fair, even 10,000 isn't much. They should really aim for (a lot) more now that they're getting some publicity.
I think they might just get to 10,000 yet. I just refreshed the petition page and it's at 3,319 and counting.

I don't use any of Google apps but I think this would benefit both companies. Microsoft with some good publicity and users with some good usability options on WP so hopefully Google will take action

Google's Strategy:

1. Load revolver.
2. Point revolver at foot.
3. Say "Don't Do Evil".
4. Pull trigger.
5. Repeat every three months.
6. Tell everyone "China isn't a big market" again.

I don't see MS getting hurt by this... its google that will lose in the end. people who buy new phones are mostly non tech savvy. when they see they cant use google search or something related to google... they will make a simple switch to the alternative. only on google decision to cut EAS support has made so many switch already. bing will get popular and other alternative. people from android will still switch and get use to alternative. lets keep watching.

It'll hurt Microsoft because when people buy smartphones, they usually want something one that'll have a mapping service on it, and for now most people only know Google maps. Since Windows Phone doesn't have an official Google Maps app yet people would most likely ask a question like "well which phone does have Google maps on it?". Another reason is because a lot of people use the OS they choose because of the amount of apps that are capable of running in it. And (like you said) Google will lose in the end too because they're making a foolish mistake. To me, the goal for Google or Apple or any software company would be to get their service(s) running on as many devices and platforms as possible even if that means running on a rival platform (Ex. Google maps in iOS 6).

I really hope that 2013 will be the year where the Windows Phone will shine.

dtourond said,
It'll hurt Microsoft because when people buy smartphones, they usually want something one that'll have a mapping service on it, and for now most people only know Google maps. Since Windows Phone doesn't have an official Google Maps app yet people would most likely ask a question like "well which phone does have Google maps on it?". Another reason is because a lot of people use the OS they choose because of the amount of apps that are capable of running in it. And (like you said) Google will lose in the end too because they're making a foolish mistake. To me, the goal for Google or Apple or any software company would be to get their service(s) running on as many devices and platforms as possible even if that means running on a rival platform (Ex. Google maps in iOS 6).

I really hope that 2013 will be the year where the Windows Phone will shine.


The guys who come here to comment to make majority of the people who buy smart phone. Some people just want iPhone cause they think its the best phone. 70% of them dont use app store. Even my friend who got the iPad but it cause she wants to brag with it. I never saw her put it in use. The windows 8 device are gaining grounds we will only see google loose at the end.

benalvino said,
Some people just want iPhone cause they think its the best phone. 70% of them dont use app store. Even my friend who got the iPad *bought* it *because* she wants to brag with it. I never saw her put it in use. The windows 8 device are gaining grounds we will only see google loose at the end.
Where did you get that percentage from? If 70% of people don't use the App store then the number of apps and the number of times that apps have been downloaded would be incredibly smaller than what it is right now..

dtourond said,
Where did you get that percentage from? If 70% of people don't use the App store then the number of apps and the number of times that apps have been downloaded would be incredibly smaller than what it is right now..
Actaully, in my own shop, I see that, when people asks something about there iPhone, there are a lot people that doesn't have any other app than the apps that are pre-installed. You will be suprised be seeing how many people actually realy use app stores.

Studio384 said,
Actaully, in my own shop, I see that, when people asks something about there iPhone, there are a lot people that doesn't have any other app than the apps that are pre-installed. You will be suprised be seeing how many people actually realy use app stores.


Thanks for your reply... I didn't want to reply him because he knows too many people that are tech savvy... My friends dont even know google map they just use their iPhones to send text check Facebook make calls that's all.

benalvino said
Thanks for your reply... I didn't want to reply him because he knows too many people that are tech savvy... My friends dont even know google map they just use their iPhones to send text check Facebook make calls that's all.
Okay then...

benalvino said,

The guys who come here to comment to make majority of the people who buy smart phone. Some people just want iPhone cause they think its the best phone. 70% of them dont use app store.

*rolls eyes* You really don't know what you're talking about. Don't use your anecdotal evidence to draw conclusions on a much larger scale.

benalvino said,
I don't see MS getting hurt by this... its google that will lose in the end. people who buy new phones are mostly non tech savvy. when they see they cant use google search or something related to google... they will make a simple switch to the alternative. only on google decision to cut EAS support has made so many switch already. bing will get popular and other alternative. people from android will still switch and get use to alternative. lets keep watching.

Non tech savvy people buying a smartphone that doesn't work with the mail account they've been using for years (or services they're used to) are more likely to return the phone than signing up for a different mail account with another provider, notifying all their mail contacts and forwarding new mail from their old account to the new one.

Manish said,

*rolls eyes* You really don't know what you're talking about. Don't use your anecdotal evidence to draw conclusions on a much larger scale.

how do you think polling works?

wookietv said,

how do you think polling works?

You ask that question as if the results of polls are used to draw conclusions after only one individual has voted.

Studio384 said,
Actaully, in my own shop, I see that, when people asks something about there iPhone, there are a lot people that doesn't have any other app than the apps that are pre-installed. You will be suprised be seeing how many people actually realy use app stores.

No offense at all, but maybe the reason why you see so much of this is because they are the majority of the population who would need to ask questions about their iPhones, and your shop isn't something most iPhone users would ever need to goto.

Don't know why people are so bothered. MS have better alternatives to nearly everything Google offer and its so easy to just forward Gmail to Outlook.com. The only app Google have thats better is Maps. But while it's not made by MS, Nokia Maps is damn close.

Studio384 said,
Bing Maps is an amazing alternative foor Google Maps, not only in quality...

Bing maps didn't really do a good job when I was in Vegas. It was hard to navigate and follow the directions and when my iPhone locked and I went back into maps, I had to re-enter my destination. Maps work good on a desktop; just not so much on a mobile.

briangw said,
Bing maps didn't really do a good job when I was in Vegas. It was hard to navigate and follow the directions and when my iPhone locked and I went back into maps, I had to re-enter my destination. Maps work good on a desktop; just not so much on a mobile.
It could be worse. You could try and use Apple Maps. I'm an Apple user but I must admit that this is something that they should of held off until they were ready. It works for me but one of my photos had location data on it and Apple maps thought that the photo was taken somewhere in the ocean next to Africa.

dtourond said,
It could be worse. You could try and use Apple Maps. I'm an Apple user but I must admit that this is something that they should of held off until they were ready. It works for me but one of my photos had location data on it and Apple maps thought that the photo was taken somewhere in the ocean next to Africa.

Yes, this is on my iPhone and I knew to stay away from maps, hence why I was using Bing maps.

Love these online petitions. Nothing says 'This is something I feel really passionate about' more than tapping a few keys and clicking your mouse button. 808 Supporters? Laughable waste of time and energy for people who should be able to find better things to do with their time.

Why do you hate online petitions...?

You know what's a waste of time, you coming here and making pathetic comments such as this one.

You have to start somewhere, and its well over 7k users and counting. Is Google going to change their direction from a Change.org petition . . . not likely, but unwanted attention does have an affect on companies. They dodged the FTC investigation, but now the DOJ is looking at them and so is the EU. They are by no means free and clear.

RaptorOO7 said
unwanted attention does have an affect on companies. They dodged the FTC investigation, but now the DOJ is looking at them and so is the EU. They are by no means free and clear.
^That part right there is so true.