Piracy worked for us, Romania president tells Gates

Pirated Microsoft Corp software helped Romania to build a vibrant technology industry, Romanian President Traian Basescu told the company's co-founder Bill Gates on Thursday.

"Piracy helped the young generation discover computers. It set off the development of the IT industry in Romania," Basescu said during a joint news conference with Gates.

Foreign investors say Romania's IT sector is one of most promising industries in the fast-growing economy thanks to high level of technical education in Romania, low wages and the country's thriving underworld of computers hackers.

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Than you have no clue what gypsies are. They're indians who migrated in most european countries, they're not romanians.

Of course piracy helped a lot of countries to discover computers, however, this is not a good enough reason to pirate software. There's free software which can help them discover computers, too.

SupaDupaNoodle said,
Lol what? Indians?? What an idiot you are.

Romania is a nation of gypsies.

Are you blonde? By definition, you cant have a nation built on a platform of Gypsies.

SupaDupaNoodle said,
Lol what? Indians?? What an idiot you are.

Romania is a nation of gypsies.


No, it's a nation of Romanians. The Roma people (who you referred to as Gypies), are a diverse ethnic group who live primarily in Southern and Eastern Europe, Western Asia, Latin America, the United States and the Middle East. They are believed to have originated mostly from the Punjab and Rajasthan regions of India. They began their migration to Europe and North Africa via the Iranian plateau around 1050.

Fagutish said,

What more can you expect from an American?

Why do you guys ALWAYS assumed its an american? when a TON of this site is British

neufuse said,

Why do you guys ALWAYS assumed its an american? when a TON of this site is British

Because is more likely to an american to say an idiot comment like this one, and to show that he knows NOTHING of geography or about the world in wich his country is jus one in more then 200

cardg said,

Because is more likely to an american to say an idiot comment like this one, and to show that he knows NOTHING of geography or about the world in wich his country is jus one in more then 200

Its great to know that so many people from so many other countries assume that ALL americans are retards. At the end of the day nationality doesn't matter. An Australian, a Briton, a Canadian, a Mexican, ( I could go on and on) could have all made that comment. It doesn't matter what country you are from.

But Nope, its an idiot comment, so it must have been made by an American.

The hypocrisy of some people astounds me.

Your comment was just as racist as the original.

This whole discussion is dumb anyway, because gypsies have their largest populations in eastern European countries like Romania and Hungary, though largest I think in Hungary where they have seats in the government and have a large role in the arts. Croquant trying to imply gypsies have just as large a culture in the US and Latin America as countries like Romania and Hungary is a big piece of BS. Not only have I studied it, my mother comes from a Hungarian region of Romania, she would always tell me about the gypsies. ambiance was just making a glib joke that didn't completely make sense, but shame on people for lecturing him about being ignorant. It sounds like other people here know what gypsies are from some promotional Roma website and don't realize their presence in Eastern europe.

brianshapiro said,
This whole discussion is dumb anyway, because gypsies have their largest populations in eastern European countries like Romania and Hungary, though largest I think in Hungary where they have seats in the government and have a large role in the arts. Croquant trying to imply gypsies have just as large a culture in the US and Latin America as countries like Romania and Hungary is a big piece of BS. Not only have I studied it, my mother comes from a Hungarian region of Romania, she would always tell me about the gypsies. ambiance was just making a glib joke that didn't completely make sense, but shame on people for lecturing him about being ignorant. It sounds like other people here know what gypsies are from some promotional Roma website and don't realize their presence in Eastern europe.

Thank you! It was a glib remark, nothing more, nothing less. I was trying to get a laugh out of someone, not to be lectured with a holier than thou attitude. I'll remember next time not to use such a provocative joke because a lot of people on Neowin have no sense of humour.

Ignorant and proud of it. Nasty!

Romanians are not gipsies, Romanians are a Latin people like the Italians, the French, the Spanish and the Portuguese are.

If you think my statement was ignorant, then your entitled to your opinion. The bottom line is it pales in comparison to a president who takes pride in piracy. He could have just said,"Thanks Bill, Windows has helped changed our economy."

It was unnecessary to mention if it was obtained legally or illegally.

S.F.: Just because I have a different sense of humour doesn't make me ignorant. You can pre-judge me for my comment, just like I could for your repetitive use of 'the'.

ambiance said,
If you think my statement was ignorant, then your entitled to your opinion. The bottom line is it pales in comparison to a president who takes pride in piracy. He could have just said,"Thanks Bill, Windows has helped changed our economy."

It was unnecessary to mention if it was obtained legally or illegally.

S.F.: Just because I have a different sense of humour doesn't make me ignorant. You can pre-judge me for my comment, just like I could for your repetitive use of 'the'.

Romania's president was obviously joking, but your coment was just a random rant.

I recall Bill Gates once saying he actually doesn't mind piracy, because it at least helps to establish early brand loyalty.

xSuRgEx said,
so what was stopping them from using cost free sloutions insted of using pirated software?

it's easier to use pirated software...

Some comments here are ridiculous. Just because something is expensive doesnt make it okay to steal it. If i have an apple shop with apples that cost £100 a piece... does that make it right for people to come and steal them? - no it just means people don't buy them!

The true definition of stealing does not include software piracy. Science Fiction: Lets say that I buy an apple from you for £100 a piece and then I clone that apple and then give the “duplicated copies” away for free. Microsoft's monopoly power hurt many.. the fact that 95% of all big businesses and universities etc. uses their software’s (OS, office, proofing tools etc.) forces you to buy their software even if they would demand £5000+ if you put the compatibilitie issues in mind. “In 2003 Microsoft was the 4th most profitable business in the world with profits in the 10s of billions according to Fortune magazine; in there as, it is idiocy to think that so called "piracy" is killing the software industry. If any truth be, it is that the opposite is true. What the industry calls "Piracy" adds value to their business in the form of end users who use the product and thus add to the potential customer base.

plastikaa said,
Some comments here are ridiculous. Just because something is expensive doesnt make it okay to steal it. If i have an apple shop with apples that cost £100 a piece... does that make it right for people to come and steal them? - no it just means people don't buy them!


ThaT is true i mean they charge for water and we should pay for it *right* {not all water is really from where they say its from}

So when they charge for air i wanna see/hear people say the same thing

Free software like linux is not for noob's [easy to learn] and most of these noob's can't run windows 1/2 the time. that's what keeps them from running free software lack of useable knowledge to use it correctly or even @ all........


PS


the winner from any used software is the hardware maker's you can't pirate that stuff ... get cheap ripp off which still cost ya money maybe btu you still will pay for it

plastikaa said,
Some comments here are ridiculous. Just because something is expensive doesnt make it okay to steal it. If i have an apple shop with apples that cost £100 a piece... does that make it right for people to come and steal them? - no it just means people don't buy them!

If you had a monopoly on apples, it would be OK to steal your apples.

This started about Gate's visit in Romania and ended in some flames about Romanian people and some other crap about gypsy. Have a look on the wikipedia about this term ignorant fools. Also have a look on this and see the big differences on all levels between us and a gypsy nation.

I'm going to try walking out of Wal-Mart with an XBOX 360 without paying and when the alarm goes off I'll just say it works better for me not to pay for stuff.

Oh, wait! Theft is still theft. It's also a sin according to Christians and wrong according to anyone with morals.

But +1 point for being upfront and honest about it.

Nice to know their "most promising" industry was built with stolen technology.

Very, very bad comparison. This is why there is an ocean of differences between physical property law and intellectual property law. There are plenty of good books on the subject at your local library.

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