Players already being banned in Guild Wars 2

Guild Wars 2 has been officially live for just a few days, but the ban hammer has already been used by developer ArenaNet. The developer announced this week that it has decided to ban an unnamed number of players for using an exploit that has been found in the fantasy MMO sequel.

In a post on Reddit, ArenaNet said they are willing to give some players a second chance with this particular issue and will offer to reduce the ban to a 72 hour suspension. The post states:

Should those involved want to accept this offer of reinstatement, contact us on our support website--support.guildwars2.com—and submit a ticket through the "Ask a Question" tab. Please use the subject heading of "Karma Weapons Exploit Appeal", then confirm in the body of your ticket that you will delete any items/currency that you gained from the exploit. You should submit only one ticket.

ArenaNet says they will put in the 72 hour suspension after that ticket is done. If a person who put in a support ticket does not delete any of its in-game items and currency it has gained by using this exploit during this time period, the suspension will become a permanent ban from Guild Wars 2.

Source: Guild Wars 2 Reddit page | Image via NCsoft

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I can understand if people exploited in a way of modifying a game file, or logging out and in on a different server to do something (I dont know what)

But this was simply them pricing the items wrong, joe bloggs comes along and thinks these are mighty cheap... im going to buy them and re-sell for profit (its business at the end of the day?) yet they are getting banned for it. Just because the devs priced it wrong.

I will not be buying this game now.

Shikaka said,
I can understand if people exploited in a way of modifying a game file, or logging out and in on a different server to do something (I dont know what)

But this was simply them pricing the items wrong, joe bloggs comes along and thinks these are mighty cheap... im going to buy them and re-sell for profit (its business at the end of the day?) yet they are getting banned for it. Just because the devs priced it wrong.

I will not be buying this game now.

As I was telling Beyond Godlike, a friend of mine had purchased the items for actual use of his character. When the notice of the bans came up, I notified him of what was going on and to not be surprised if he finds his account suspended.

Never happened though. From what I can tell, Arenanet could see that he only bought the items for use of his character as intended. The people getting banned are the ones who are obviously aware of what kind of advantages they could reap from the vendor, and abusing the system. Buying 100+ weapons just doesn't make sense for ANY game I've played really, so I don't see how one wouldn't be aware that something was wrong here.

That's the big difference here really.

dead.cell said,

As I was telling Beyond Godlike, a friend of mine had purchased the items for actual use of his character. When the notice of the bans came up, I notified him of what was going on and to not be surprised if he finds his account suspended.

Never happened though. From what I can tell, Arenanet could see that he only bought the items for use of his character as intended. The people getting banned are the ones who are obviously aware of what kind of advantages they could reap from the vendor, and abusing the system. Buying 100+ weapons just doesn't make sense for ANY game I've played really, so I don't see how one wouldn't be aware that something was wrong here.

That's the big difference here really.

Buying 100+ did make sense, if you used the mystic forge. I never sold a single one, i just experimented to see what i could make, and in the end, kept 4 in total for future use.

Shikaka said,
http://oi46.tinypic.com/2v8qp8i.jpg - more "exploits" as the devs like to call it, but its the price they have set... you cant ban someone for buying it if thats the price they have set

That didn't ban everyone who bought it, just the people that abused it. It was about 3000 accounts, out of the 1 million + accounts there are for guildwars 2.

Shikaka said,
http://oi46.tinypic.com/2v8qp8i.jpg - more "exploits" as the devs like to call it, but its the price they have set... you cant ban someone for buying it if thats the price they have set

Yep, theyre being asshats. Punishing customers for their mistakes. I bought arond 70 items, i played with the mystic forge and everything, i had no idea the prices were wrong. My friend didnt either(see post above about how he got banned for crafting). We got punished for playing the game. Theres tons of backlash towards the company for this, MAINLY because they banned people for not knowing if prices were wrong, BUT...TEMP BANNED BOTTERS. People INTENTIONALLY cheating with bots got temp banned, but people who bought things unknowingly due to THEIR MISTAKE got perma banned. Find the logic in that.

Beyond Godlike said,

Yep, theyre being asshats. Punishing customers for their mistakes. I bought arond 70 items, i played with the mystic forge and everything, i had no idea the prices were wrong. My friend didnt either(see post above about how he got banned for crafting). We got punished for playing the game. Theres tons of backlash towards the company for this, MAINLY because they banned people for not knowing if prices were wrong, BUT...TEMP BANNED BOTTERS. People INTENTIONALLY cheating with bots got temp banned, but people who bought things unknowingly due to THEIR MISTAKE got perma banned. Find the logic in that.

Not true, Arenanet is giving them second chances. And the "unknowingly" part is a bunch of bull.

they were also doing suspensions for names and forcing a rename for stupid names

personally i think its good they are bringing the hammer down for exploiting and names, the people they were banning for the above exploit were for people blatantly exploiting it, not minor infractions ( i read in the Reddit less then 50 )

Hell-In-A-Handbasket said,
they were also doing suspensions for names and forcing a rename for stupid names

personally i think its good they are bringing the hammer down for exploiting and names, the people they were banning for the above exploit were for people blatantly exploiting it, not minor infractions ( i read in the Reddit less then 50 )

They are also not admitting how many pricing problems there really are in the game. Its their fault. There were crafting vendors bugged in MORE THAN ONE city, so even if i travlled, youd never know it was wrong. THey banned people for using them and crafting, then selling the goods. They also denied an appeal to a friend who had no idea the prices were wrong. Theyre outright being stupid.

Beyond Godlike said,
They also denied an appeal to a friend who had no idea the prices were wrong. Theyre outright being stupid.

Oh please. If you didn't know and bought a couple things for yourself, you're okay. A friend of mine never even got banned for the couple items he bought.

But to abuse it hundreds of times, in order to make easy currency is willful use of an exploit. Your friend knew damn well what he was doing, and that is the big difference here.

Sucks that he's your friend and that it happened to him, but he has no one to blame but himself for abusing something like that, as if the developers intended for you to use that vendor for you to bypass the whole reason currency in game exists.

dead.cell said,

Oh please. If you didn't know and bought a couple things for yourself, you're okay. A friend of mine never even got banned for the couple items he bought.

But to abuse it hundreds of times, in order to make easy currency is willful use of an exploit. Your friend knew damn well what he was doing, and that is the big difference here.

Sucks that he's your friend and that it happened to him, but he has no one to blame but himself for abusing something like that, as if the developers intended for you to use that vendor for you to bypass the whole reason currency in game exists.

When the price is wrong in multiple vendors in multiple vendors, thats Arenanets fault. How would you even know its wrong..crafting mats are meant to be cheap. So dont oh please me, when the developer cleraly messed up royally and are trying to label it as an 'exploit' when all he did was play the game. Either way, he got his ban lifted today and sold his lvl 80 account for double what we paid.

Beyond Godlike said,

When the price is wrong in multiple vendors in multiple vendors, thats Arenanets fault. How would you even know its wrong..crafting mats are meant to be cheap. So dont oh please me, when the developer cleraly messed up royally and are trying to label it as an 'exploit' when all he did was play the game. Either way, he got his ban lifted today and sold his lvl 80 account for double what we paid.

from my understanding it wasn't crafting mats that were exploited. it was armor and weapons

Hell-In-A-Handbasket said,
from my understanding it wasn't crafting mats that were exploited. it was armor and weapons

Exactly. If you can't figure out that their intention was not for you to buy hundreds of items, then I truly don't know what to tell you. Trying to justify it is just silly.

I have a friend of mine that didn't even get banned at all because he bought the items for use for his character, not to circumvent the system for means of crafting materials or money. He still has the items last time I checked too. And you and your friend would probably still have yours if you didn't knowingly and willfully abuse the system.

That is the big difference here. Claiming ignorance doesn't really help your case to be honest.

Edited by dead.cell, Sep 1 2012, 6:47pm :