Playstation Move catching up with Xbox Kinect?

Kinect and Move, the two competing motion-tracking systems, are closing in on each other. The last time we heard from the Kinect group, the product was at 10 million sold. But that was back in March, and surprisingly little information has come forward since then. On the other hand, Playstation Move had sold nearly 9 million by June.

Although Kinect got off to a great start, it's a worrying sign that 8 of the 10 million sold were in its first 60 days of release. The Christmas period is drawing closer, and both developers and store managers have begun talking. Speaking to IndustryGamers, Ubisoft's VP of Marketing Tony Key said: "It's not healthy to just sell in the holiday, or 90% of your units in the holidays. We would really like to see them have some major launches during the non-holiday part of the year."

With talks of a new Xbox on the horizon, are Microsoft's plans to treat Kinect as a console launch getting scrapped? It's unlikely, with nearly 50 games in the pipeline and a large advertising campaign backing it. Playstation Move has a far less impressive schedule, following a decent launch that may peter out after the faithful have grown tired of it. It's hard to say who will win the motion wars, but as the Wii U draws ever closer, these are exciting times for gaming.

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dead.cell said,
"Exciting times for gaming"? If this is what's defined as exciting, I don't want to live on the planet anymore.

This goes for me but the games just aren't there or have not lived up to that unprecedented level that would get me to invest in motion sensing.

These technologies are very much in their infancy and just haven't matured with creative developers, the adaptation also bears responsibility on the developers themselves

I find it heard to believe anyway as the Kinect doesn't just sell to XBox owners, a large number of people are buying it to develop with for bespoke applications, windows interface etc
Can't say I hear all that much about people doing it with the move, although I expect it does happen

Exactly, as has been pointed out in the past, Sony is reporting every "Controller" as a unit, not just the "Sensor". The sales are actually a LOT lower per "Household" then the kinect, as each Kinect unit covers a household, but every "Controller" for the move doesn't.

Regardless I think the whole motion contol thing is gimicky and lame, but at least the kinect is usefull for UI manipulation on the XBOX.

Deihmos said,
Both are crap if you ask me.

Then you have no appreciation or realization of tech. Kinect, in its simplest form is amazing tech. You just need attention. Winner: you got some attention, yeaaaahh for you!

How are they tracking sales? Is it each unit sold because 2 - 4 players can use one kinect but would need 2 - 4 move wands so does that really count?

The main reason most of the sales previously were right around the holidays, other than the obvious, was that the game releases in the next months after that were garbage for the most part. IMO, other than Child of Eden (which bombed sadly) and Dance Central, there wasn't a single kinect game to come out that made you think OMG i need to have it. Honestly if somebody wasn't impressed with the first Dance Central then the sequel wasn't going to help either.

I also think it's funny the publishers are complaining about it's not healthy having 80% of your sales during the holidays when they just released like 6 major games in the same week and other than Rockstar releasing in May, they avoid June-August like the plague.

the reason kinect is so popular is not because of the sales but people are seeing the potential of it.. i have not seen a single video or post like .. "Sony Move Shows How It Can Be Used in a Hospital"..

If you could even for a moment see the Playstation Move as a real competitor of the Kinect you need your head checked. Yes, Kinect may not have the best games out on the market right now, however, they do have some pretty good ones. But compairing games is not really why I believe Kinect has no real competitors.

My reasoning is this. Kinect is a wireless, controllerless device. You do not need to hold some black wand with a glowing orb, something that looked like it came out of final fantasy or harry potter. The kinect is more natural and has voice recognition, it uses more advanced technology and is not limited to just the games or the 360 console.

Kinect is being used to really change the technology world and that is something you can not deny. Playstation Move is nice an all, but it certianly does not have the capabilities to take over the Kinect.

Just my opinion.

Kinect is awesome.... however it is not.

Microsoft did a bad move to use the "control-less" campaign with Kinect. Why?. Because without a trigger, most games are too hard to play if not unnatural at all. Kinect will success only when MS will realize their mistake.

Playstation Move games : 71
Kinect games : 66

Magallanes said,
Kinect is awesome.... however it is not.

Microsoft did a bad move to use the "control-less" campaign with Kinect. Why?. Because without a trigger, most games are too hard to play if not unnatural at all. Kinect will success only when MS will realize their mistake.

Playstation Move games : 71
Kinect games : 66

Your comment reminds me of when people say they rather read than watch T.V. Have you ever wactched T.V (used the Kinect)?

You say that it is not natural and people would rather have a controller because of a trigger? Umm, have you ever pulled a trigger to swing/swat at something flying at you (going off of Fruit Ninja), have you ever used a trigger to pet an animal (this is going off of Kinectimals)? These are just two examples of your fualty logic.

Also games do not matter with the Kinect as much as the innovation the Kinect brings to the table. Doctors, teachers, scientists, and other groups of people are using the Kinect to invent new technology and to make things a bit more controllerless and more natural.

I love walking in my room and saying "Xbox on" and being able to wave my hand to move the slides on the screen. A lot more natural than using a controller. Same thing applies with future tech, I like being able to swype on my phone to text, move the visuals on the screen, take a pic etc all without really clicking. I would hope within the next 10 years we will be able to swype at our walls and have news slides, videos, games, video chats, etc sliding across the wall.

Saying the controller is a lot more natural than no controller is like saying the would would have been better off without music.

If they teamed up the Kinect with a Wii Remote / Playstation Move style controller it'd be the best motion controlled gaming experience out there by far. It's still the most impressive tech of the 3, but limiting it to no buttons is a shame. Heck, if developers would even use the normal 360 controller to help out that'd be great too - but at the moment they're either shunning controller completely, or just tacking on small Kinect features into core games.

Except that the way Sony reports Move sales, the sales reports are twice or mother actual "users" or fully complete units.

HawkMan said,
Except that the way Sony reports Move sales, the sales reports are twice or mother actual "users" or fully complete units.

I don't think it's that, I think it's that the link is using recent Move sales and trying to compare them to Kinect sales that are extremely old. I guess they don't think Kinect has sold any units since Microsoft made a sales announcement?

Ayepecks said,

I don't think it's that, I think it's that the link is using recent Move sales and trying to compare them to Kinect sales that are extremely old. I guess they don't think Kinect has sold any units since Microsoft made a sales announcement?

"and surprisingly little information has come forward since then"

MS haven't released any more sales figures. Just last month - http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/kinect-sales-reach-10m/087068

Audioboxer said,

"and surprisingly little information has come forward since then"

MS haven't released any more sales figures. Just last month - http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/kinect-sales-reach-10m/087068


That figure is from March - http://www.xbox.com/en-US/Pres...11/0308-Ten-Million-Kinects

My whole point was that Microsoft haven't released sales figures in a long time, so making the comparison of recent Move sales to Kinect sales from March is asinine. That figure also doesn't include bundle sales.

The article linked above originally stated Kinect has sold only 2 million since the 8 million announcement; it has since been edited. You can tell because they didn't remove the last quote at the end of the second paragraph about Kinect only selling 2 million in 10 months, but they added the statement about the figures being from March earlier in the paragraph, which previously wasn't in the article.

Edited by Ayepecks, Nov 24 2011, 11:22pm :