Poll: Should Microsoft build a Surface RT 2?

Microsoft announced yesterday that it took a massive $900 million charge against the Surface RT. Knowing this, should Microsoft build a Surface RT 2? Clearly, since the company took such a large hit on the first model, you would hedge that it might abandon plans for a second generation of the device; but rumors still persist that a 7-inch device is in the making (though it could be a Windows 8 device).

It’s not an easy question, as Microsoft needs to find a way to build a presence in the tablet market but with such a large hit to the bottom line, is it good business to keep pushing your own product or should Microsoft let its vendors roll the dice and see if they can take back the market from Apple?

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Should Microsoft build a Surface RT 2?

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I like this idea, without other OEMs involved in the RT game Microsoft doesn't have to walk on egg shells when it comes to aggressively selling the SurfaceRT... Not to mention I think its fairly obvious that WP and WinRT are on a collision course and will soon(ish) merge.

So just do a smaller 8" Surface RT at $299, would buy

The problem with this is that:
a) These same OEMs might as well be just making Android tablets
b) These same OEMs may worry that if Surface RT is too successful, it may cut away from their laptops/tablet lines.

At least the OEM has a chance to compete if they're offered RT.

Absolutely not.

But they should make a "Surface Home", something cheaper but still "fully functional".
And yes, you know what I meant.

I think they will continue. They don't give up right away. And also, it wasn't quite clear if this is a write down or a write off... I'm assuming the former, which isn't as big a deal for an inventory item as some other assets...

My hindsight observation:

Windows T is our tablet version of Windows. Our product is called the "Surface Tablet", it is available with keyboard for $399, beginning Oct. 29th, 2012.

I voted no. Focus on the Surface Pro. The apps are great and all when it's feasible, but sometimes you just can't get away from a proper desktop style application. If I wanted to buy a cheap device with limited functionality I'd just get an Android.

Max Norris said,
I voted no. Focus on the Surface Pro. The apps are great and all when it's feasible, but sometimes you just can't get away from a proper desktop style application. If I wanted to buy a cheap device with limited functionality I'd just get an Android.

If I wanted to spend $900 on a device with a dire 4-5 hours battery life I would just buy a high end laptop!!!!

neo158 said,

If I wanted to spend $900 on a device with a dire 4-5 hours battery life I would just buy a high end laptop!!!!

But you probably wouldn't get a digitizer or the compactness of the Surface Pro. For me, having 7 or 8 hour battery life is not that important. I don't really care to hang out in coffee shops for longer than an hour, and besides, many public places now have free WiFi and outlets.

They will launch another. MS does not sell popcorn and i think they have, ate least, a middle term vision of the products they build.
I think they are learning with the mistakes made with the first RT generation and i´m sure they will learn from it.

I think the device is fine, but it's the way they've presented it is the problem. It's a competitor to the iPad, but it's not really presented as one (instead it comes across more like a PC), and calling the OS it runs "Windows" RT just creates product confusion (not being able to run what people traditionally think of as Windows applications).

the real problem w/ the surface rt was the price and explanation to non techies of no legacy support...they should've offered a $200 vers from the get go w/ no desktop and I bet things would be different

Microsoft is paying the price for cheaping out on the processor. The poor performance of the device is what killed it in my eyes.

Scroogled said,
Microsoft is paying the price for cheaping out on the processor. The poor performance of the device is what killed it in my eyes.

Obviously you haven't tried it with the 8.1 preview on it!!!

neo158 said,

Obviously you haven't tried it with the 8.1 preview on it!!!

Do web pages load faster? It's great that it supports Flash, but sites like YouTube were frustrating to view. I ended up selling my Surface RT for an i5-based tablet.

Scroogled said,
Do web pages load faster? It's great that it supports Flash, but sites like YouTube were frustrating to view. I ended up selling my Surface RT for an i5-based tablet.
It's considerably better with 8.1. And while the Flash sites may have been a bit frustrating, it's nice to have that option.

I think they should definitely do a Surface RT 2.

However they need to stop ****ing around with metro only and allow desktop applications. If they want to have very rigorous guidelines for it for battery life, that's fine, but it does need it. The fact office is available on the Desktop and no 3rd party apps is just stupid.

If they do that, I might be interested, but otherwise I'd be more interested in a 13" hybrid (a 13" surface pro would be the best thing ever, but that's another story).

ChristopherSmith said,
I think they should definitely do a Surface RT 2.However they need to stop ****ing around with metro only and allow desktop applications. If they want to have very rigorous guidelines for it for battery life, that's fine, but it does need it. The fact office is available on the Desktop and no 3rd party apps is just stupid.

If they do that, I might be interested, but otherwise I'd be more interested in a 13" hybrid (a 13" surface pro would be the best thing ever, but that's another story).

I've always wondered if they'd do a desktop app store. That's about the only way you're going to make that experience good. The average user won't know what ".net or arm compatible desktop applications" means.

I voted no. Simply because Microsoft hardware is generally garbage. I've had bad experiences with the Surface, Zune, Zune HD and Microsoft Touch Mouse (Can't remember its official name).

The only thing they are good at after a few revisions is the Xbox.

DarkNet said,
I voted no. Simply because Microsoft hardware is generally garbage. I've had bad experiences with the Surface, Zune, Zune HD and Microsoft Touch Mouse (Can't remember its official name).

The only thing they are good at after a few revisions is the Xbox.

The Surface is very nicely built, although I think that fancy magnetic power plug is more trouble that it's worth.

The Zune HD was also very nice. I had nothing but good things to say about the Zune HD.

Scroogled said,

The Surface is very nicely built, although I think that fancy magnetic power plug is more trouble that it's worth.

The Zune HD was also very nice. I had nothing but good things to say about the Zune HD.


Surface: Lack of GPS to make it a decent field tablet, magnetic power plug (although I understand why they did it), touch keyboard and keyboard are really poorly designed, lack of apps.

Zune HD: Lack of apps, didn't support multiple album art, didn't support lyrics, poorly priced to compete. Bought an iPod Touch. Nothing but good things to say about the iPod Touch.

Yes, but they need to realize that they can't compete with Apple, and ought be targeting Android instead. Lower prices are needed, and honestly? If you're going to fudge on storage, 32g with a load taken up by the OS, say its 16g storage instead, and don't count the odd amount. Under-promise, over deliver.

Seriously - they need to challenge Samsung and the Galaxy Tabs. Surface RT simply doesn't have enough going for it to challenge Apple.

The only thing I feel MS did wrong was price Surface RT way too high. Surface RT2 can NOT be any higher than $399.99 for 32GBs WITH touch cover. This is a platform that's competing with iPads...in order to get marketshare you must come in at a lower price. We see were pricing it the same gets you...why not just discount it right off the bat while the hype is at its peak, then to wait 8 months once the thing hasn't sold as well as you'd hope due to not being priced low enough to begin with? If you're going to take a 900M hit, at least have a nice userbase to show for it...MS took the hit, yet still lacks the userbase/mindshare.

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