Porn Industry Chooses HD DVD

Thanks to Mikee4fun for posting this in BPN.

They say the reason VHS beat Betamax was because the adult entertainment industry chose VHS. Recently, at their annual get together, which coincidentally coincides with CES, the adult entertainment industry has chosen HD DVD as the preferred high definition format. Will this decision end the war this time around as well?

First of all, the home video market back in the Betamax vs. VHS war is incomparable to the Blu-ray and HD DVD market. Individuals are turning towards the internet for their video needs and more and more portable video players are becoming available. Still, at least when it comes to the porn industry, it seems that HD DVD is winning without question. But, why? First off, Blu-ray discs cannot be replicated, according to Pink Visual. Secondly, Blu-ray isn't economical; the cost for choosing it as an HD format simply isn't an option, even for bigger studios. It ultimately comes down to three words: Blu-ray is expensive.

"Blu-ray has superior quality, yes, but HD DVD is easier to produce, cheaper to produce and there are more HD DVD players in homes than there are Blu-ray players, for example in the Xbox 360," said a spokesperson for porn studio Bangbros.

News source: TG Daily

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This makes me happy...

1) The term HD-DVD sounds better.
2) HD-DVD is cheaper.
3) Quality-wise, they're the same.
4) Size-wise, to be honest I wouldn't want a 200GB optical disc that could get scratched up and lose all the data. I'd much rather store that on a hard drive, thank you.
5) Sony is an arrogant ****** of a company that needs to get its head out of its ass.

So, I'm all for Blu-Ray losing.

HD DVD *sounds* better?

It's a little early for the silliest internet comment of 2007 but this is a winner!

Seeing how nearly every company and studio supports Blu-ray calling for nearly the entire industry to lose is ridiculous.

Of course, in fantasyland Microsoft & Toshiba aren't arrogant at all, are they?

Point 4 is equally dumb: BD discs are 50GB and hard coated. Ask any Netflix subscriber who owns both formats which discs are less prone to defects and damage due to scratches. Hint: it isn't the Blu-ray one.

First of all, the home video market back in the Betamax vs. VHS war is incomparable to the Blu-ray and HD DVD market.
"Blu-ray has superior quality, yes, but HD DVD is easier to produce, cheaper to produce and there are more HD DVD players in homes than there are Blu-ray players..."

Betamax is higher quality than VHS, but VHS is easier to produce, cheaper to produce and there are more VHS players in homes than there are Betamax players. Just how does the EXACT SAME REASONING equal an incomparable format war?

I Dream of a day when Sony goes out of business and gets bought by Panasonic or Toshiba...

I already saw HD DVD Imation blanks in the U.A.E. The best part is there were no signs of Blu Ray anywhere...Yay

Love foolish comments like this.

Panasonic is a HUGE Blu-ray backer. They make burners, players, blank discs...

AND they author movies for Fox and Disney.

Because only idiots think Blu-ray is a Sony format.

It's Panasonic, Samsung, Pioneer, JVC, Hitachi, Sharp, Philips, Dell, Apple, Plextor, etc.

Of course with HD Porn, you'll probably want to stay away from any movie that features anyone over the age of 25. The added detail and clarity could be a really bad thing for some of the "actors" and "actresses". :nuts:

And then theres the better graphi... oh wait..
Or the Emmy winning contro... ar hmm..
The ability to play older games in high de... Nope, that's not right...

How about playing PSOne games for your PSP? It actualy does that!
...
Though the download selection isn't that great...

Well Sony still has Rock solid MGS4 Exclusivity... or do they?

Well... I'm out of stuff...

(Note: this was all in good humer, I don't dislike the PS3 that much =P )

And then theres the better graphi... oh wait..
Ha. Comparing a launch title that looks the same as the 360 version. So next gen = next gen at launch.

I seem to remember last year people were comparing the 360 versions to the ORIGINAL XBOX and finding them not much better. THAT is far more embarassing.

The ability to play older games in high de... Nope, that's not right..

At least I can take an older game from the PS1 or PS2 and be resonably confident it will PLAY, unlike the 360 which you have to consult a LIST and see if it works or not. DOAX? Nope. MechAssault? Nope. Panzer Dragoon Orta? Nope. On and on.

Well... I'm out of stuff...

You had anything to begin with?

Here is the real reason!

Has Sony gone mad? Prominent adult movie producer Digital Playground (site) says it is forced to use HD DVD instead of Blu-ray, because Sony does not allow XXX-rated movies to be released on Blu-ray.

It does not matter how you stand to porn. It is here and it is a massive business. It is also an industry that is an early adopter for new media technology. VHS might not have won with out the adult film industry adopting it.

German Heise has interviewed Joone the founder of Digital Playgrounds at the AVN 2007 show in Las Vegas. Joone says actually said last year he is committed to Blu-ray. Now they announced four HD DVD titles in the United States. In the interview Joone says he was forced to use HD DVD, because no Blu-ray disc manufacturer would make his discs, because Sony was against it and they would loose their license.

"Loose" their license?

You mean it's a tight license otherwise?

There are a total of 175,000 HD DVD players otherwise. Digital Playground will LOSE more money making titles for an extremely limited format.

VHS won with porn back in the late 70's, early 80's. How many Google searches and internet downloads was VHS competing with?

Besides, there is Blu-ray porn in Japan. I think they're not telling the entire story here.

Lets not get all excited.... I remember reading (months ago..) that then Porn Industry where backing Blu-ray.

Why did they change their mind? How come NOW HD-DVD is better? Probably because of cost. Tell me where I can find a Blu-ray player for 399$ (price of low-end Toshiba HD-DVD). Even the Playstation3 cost more than that.

TruckWEB said,
Lets not get all excited.... I remember reading (months ago..) that then Porn Industry where backing Blu-ray.

Why did they change their mind? How come NOW HD-DVD is better? Probably because of cost. Tell me where I can find a Blu-ray player for 399$ (price of low-end Toshiba HD-DVD). Even the Playstation3 cost more than that.

why did they change their mind? did you read the article? Sony doesnt want porn on their format. It's Sony's fault, not the porn industry.

Remember Dell and HP (the largest market share in US) will release computers with Blu-ray players not with HD-DVD
On the other hand, Toshiba the largest laptop manufacturer in US will release with HD-DVD drives

Who told you that? HP is already out with computers with HD-DVD drives. What ya talkin' about. And considering Dell's partnership with Intel, I wouldn't be surprised they switched or included HD-DVD drives as well.

ASUS, Acer, HP, Toshiba and few others all have top of the line laptops with HD-DVD drives. And you know what? They are a thousand bucks cheaper then laptops wth blu-ray drives. So, hm, let me think, which one should I buy?

HP has their feet solidly stuck in both camps. it's called giving the customer a choice. and they're not giving only BD as the choice, and they have provided HD-DVD for a long time now. I think they where even the first to provide laptops with HD-DVD.. or aone of the first anyway

IMO, I don’t think that this is as big a nail in the coffin of Blu-Ray as this article makes it out to be. Sure, back in the days of Betamax, this would be devastating. But nowadays most adult films are circulated over the internet (honestly, when was the last time you made a “dreaded trip” to your locale Blockbuster). So, in the long run, I think the porn industry has chosen the internet as there preferred medium.

while i agree to some extent, High-def porn is something completely different. Sure you can wack off to a 12" screen from VHS tape, but High definition videos you won't be able to get online I'm sorry. And that's where the difference is. I see millions of porn sites, even pay ones and that's ok, but none of them offers high-def video. I actually order a few titles online on HD-DVD just to experience the revolution. Because I guarantee you that on my 50" Plasma Elite and HD-DVD, this is the closest you will get to the real thing on TV.

but none of them offers high-def video
You aren't even really looking then. I'd link it, but the mods would have a fit if someone links to pornographic websites.

There are several DVD releases (like Island Fever 3) that include a WMV-HD version on a second disc as well.

this is the closest you will get to the real thing on TV

Well, I prefer the real thing. Don't need HD DVD and a plasma for that!

Well honestly, I think Blu-Ray has lost:

HD-DVD currently can store more, and when Blu-Ray catches up it won't matter
HD-DVD has VC-1 codec, better visual quality
HD-DVD has iHD, enabled bookmarks, menus, and interactivty
HD-DVD has pr0n and MS... it's over

vlsi0n said,
HD-DVD has VC-1 codec, better visual quality

BluRay also has VC-1. Both discs support 3 codecs, the same 3 codecs.

Also, there are a few dual layer BluRay movies out there.

That said BluRay will have a really hard time capturing any form of dominance now. Odd how Sony always tends to be the submissive in a media battle

Woo folks, let's take the wayback time machine to July 2006!

HD-DVD currently can store more, and when Blu-Ray catches up it won't matter
50GB is less than 30GB? Only in HD DVD fantasyland I guess.

HD-DVD has VC-1 codec, better visual quality

Blu-ray has VC-1, AVC and MPEG2. Visual quality is the SAME.

HD-DVD has iHD, enabled bookmarks, menus, and interactivty
BD has java, pop up menus, pip, interactivity, games...

HD-DVD has pr0n and MS... it's over

BD has Panasonic, Samsung, Pioneer, Hitachi, Sharp, Philips, Apple, Dell, the Linux community, the Apple community, etc.

Nose Nuggets said,
which is exactly what betamax said. the guys making VHS tapes just wanted to make sure the check was signed.

And that is exactly how it should be. Why should the maker of my car decide not to sell me a car just because I may like to drive fast?

It's a stupid (and naive) idea to saying you don't want a certain type content using your media. It's financial suicide.

xxdesmus said,

And that is exactly how it should be. Why should the maker of my car decide not to sell me a car just because I may like to drive fast?

It's a stupid (and naive) idea to saying you don't want a certain type content using your media. It's financial suicide.

That's what happened to bumble bee in the new transformers movie ( last I heard ) VW didn't want their car to be known as a war machine so their not letting bumble bee be one.

Gahmahn said,
That's what happened to bumble bee in the new transformers movie ( last I heard ) VW didn't want their car to be known as a war machine so their not letting bumble bee be one.

:cheeky: I was totally making that up off the top of my head x)

Colin-uk said,
then you can put (sic) after the quotes to show they are actual quotes, and not a typo by you i think thats right :ninja:

Last I knew quotes implied an actual quote =P

"Blu-ray has superior quality, yes, but HD DVD is easier to produce, cheaper to produce and there are more HD DVD players in homes than there are Blu-ray players, for example in the Xbox 360," lol..

TCLN Ryster said,
Yeah I spotted that one too... I wonder if they meant the HD-DVD external drive?

Well, it's an industry built around sticking things in... things. So I guess they can get confused about whether something is internal or not

Napalm Frog said,
I think it was more along the lines of that each Xbox 360 can be utilised as an HD-DVD Player.

Or maybe each Xbox 360 is a potential porn tool...

"Blu-ray has superior quality, yes"

Erm? I think I read recently that this is a falsehood being spread by the Blu-Ray camp. Only the first generation of HD-DVD players had 1080i output. Newer players have full 1080p support, and all of the discs are encoded at 1080p anyway.

Blu-Ray are also using size as a tool for attacking HD-DVD too. In fact current HD-DVD discs are bigger than current Blu-Ray discs. It's all down to layers. Blu-Ray can fit more data per layer, but HD-DVD is currently able to fit more layers per disc.

And as this article says, it all comes down to price. HD-DVDs can be produced in many existing DVD pressing plants, Blu-Ray discs cannot. Blu-Ray requires entirely new plants and production facilities. Add to that the fact that the technology is so radically different to DVD that the drives themselves are very hard and expensive to make. Sony are currently finding it very hard to produce the PS3 is any meaningful quantities due to supply issues with the Blu-Ray laser diodes. Add all this together and I think that its looking very good for HD-DVD, the logical successor to DVD in my opinion

Both support 1080p, but Blu-Ray has additional capacity and has more customizable interactive menus (which are Java based)

Both support 1080p, but Blu-Ray has additional capacity and has more customizable interactive menus (which are Java based)

They call it Java because when running an app you click a button then go get some coffee instead of waiting around for the program to respond.

BOTH blu Ray and HD-DVD have Java based interactivity, as well as possibility to use soem other language too I blieve.

in fact BD and HD-DVD are practically identical. there are size limits for HD movies that measn that BluRay can't really take advantage of the extra space available anyway, and even so there's more than enough space on HD-DVD for both movie and tons of extras.

So BD and HD-DVD both have the same size and quality video, they use the same content protection(though BD uses a few extra modules of it, making it more restrictive). and they use the same languages for menus and interactive stuff.

The only real difference between the formats are actual storage media. There are other minor difference in languages and menu systems.

As for Java, in purely conosle based programs, it's as fast as c++, on older computer running win98 it was slower on windows apps because it drew windows itself instead of relying on windows. You'd be hard rpessed to find speed difference between Java and a regular compiled c++ app on a modern computer running Win XP or Vista or Linux or even OSX. depending on how well the app is written of course, but chances are higher of finding a slow and badly written C++ app.

Matt Zander said,
Yep, once porn has made its choice, the war is over. :D

lol yeah pretty much. alot of people don't give porn the credit it deserves for making dvd take off so well. I know what my first dvd was

I was in a SAN training class about a year ago... Had some sysadmins in it from very, very large ISPs and they all said the same thing: nothing drives the demand for bandwidth and storage more than porn. I like HD-DVD for the name alone. Blu-Ray sounds ghey.

Had some sysadmins in it from very, very large ISPs and they all said the same thing: nothing drives the demand for bandwidth and storage more than porn.
So you foolishly destroy your own argument!

Most folks get their porn from the internet. They aren't gonna spend money to get an HD DVD player to get it, because they don't NEED to now.

like HD-DVD for the name alone. Blu-Ray sounds ghey.

Preferring a format because of the name sounds pretty "ghey" as you call it.

Didn't stop folks from buying hundreds of thousands of something called a "Wii"