PSA: Flash for Android out of Google Play after Wednesday

It's going to be an interesting day on Wednesday for owners of Android-based devices. It will be the last day that those users will be able to download and install Flash for Android from the Google Play store for new installs. As we previously reported, Flash will be unavailable to download after August 15th for all Android devices for a new installation.

This is basically the last gasp for Flash for all those millions of Android devices. In November, Flash creator Adobe announced that it would no longer release new versions of its Flash Player on mobile devices, including those based on Android, along with Research in Motion's Playbook tablet.

The culprit was Apple, which refused to support Flash for its iOS devices, including the iPhone and iPad. Even though there are a ton of web applications that still use Flash, most notably games and video applications, Apple's blockade of Flash effectively sealed the deal for future mobile Flash development.

Adobe will still continue to develop Flash for Windows and the Mac OS. Meanwhile, Google has already launched Android 4.1, which won't have any support for Flash at all. Indeed, Adobe has already warned that people who update their device from Android 4.0 to 4.1 may have to deal with "unpredictable behavior" when using Flash.

Source: Adobe

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Just remember that OSS and Android = Choice... Oh, wait, no it doesn't.

This is the fallacy that too many people get sucked into with a 'belief' system in Open Source, that they take comfort in or think that OSS is a better choice.

Just because Google provides the source code does not make the software/platform magically diverse, as it all comes down to the SOLE provider of the software to set the ENTIRE Standard of what is allowed and not allowed by their default release. It is all under their control, and sometimes more so than close source software companies like Microsoft, that have to answer to more standards and industry partners to set what the OS does and does not provide.

Sure there can be Android mods running around to provide the functionality, but as the OS changes, the DEFAULT code base established by Google defines the OS. This also establishes the fact that being Open Source is completely irrelevant.

OSS is somewhat of a con that the software is going to be more accessible, and people can provide functionality, when in reality, a single company like Google defines the entirety of the DEFAULT code of Android.

People can submit code and fixes to Google, but it is Google that choses to use them or not and what features Android has, just like a closed source project with people submitting suggestions to Microsoft for example. The difference is that the OSS myth uses well meaning developers, and takes advantage of their time and work for free.

As for mods and alternative builds, remember that it really is just as easy for developers that can modify binaries and read machine code to provide the SAME type of MODS for closed source OSes like iOS.

Ironically, Windows is the only OS that now allows the option for people that want a choice to run Flash now on tablets. It was the openness of the platform design of Windows that won people over 20 years ago, and this is still true today, as it can molded and modified as much as open source; however, it is far more malleable without actual code modifications to the OS.


PS Still not a fan of Flash, but there are still legitimate needs for it, like protected media content that HTML5 still can't officially do yet.

I don't quite understand why Adobe doesn't fight. They are in a hurry to give up. Isn't this approach against their financial interests?

biebel228 said,
I don't quite understand why Adobe doesn't fight. They are in a hurry to give up. Isn't this approach against their financial interests?
Fighting might keep Flash around a little longer, but it's not gonna save it, all they would be doing is spending vast amounts of money to prop up a dying language.

It'll take desktops a lot longer to phase out of it completely.. but don't expect many more new advancements in Flash anymore.. Adobe's no fool, they are gonna work on something else now..

While their is so much hate for flash, the majority of websites still rely on it, so how will users access those sites?.

d4rk5ky said,
While their is so much hate for flash, the majority of websites still rely on it, so how will users access those sites?.

Those websites will simply need to adapt or die. But seriously, what major websites still rely on Flash? And of those major sites, how many of them have a mobile website made in Flash?

a0me said,

Those websites will simply need to adapt or die. But seriously, what major websites still rely on Flash? And of those major sites, how many of them have a mobile website made in Flash?

Lets see, have you streamed video on most major sites. Seems to me that those streams are still Flash are they not.....
Not defending Flash as Ive had to fix more than my share of Flash caused pc problems over the years, but we have 2 issues here....

1 - Flash is more common than most people realize or give credit for.....
2 - The spec's for HTML5 havent even been settled on and we have people saying everyone should be HTML5.....

OK so effective 12/31/12 all cars will stop being built so we can speed up the development process of flying saucers. We need to move to the next generation of transportation dont we. We wont move to the next generation of transportation until we kill off what we use now.....

Come on......

TechGuyPA said,
Lets see, have you streamed video on most major sites. Seems to me that those streams are still Flash are they not.....

In my experience, YouTube, Vimeo, Netflix, Facebook, National Geographic, NPR, Wall Street Journal and most major news channels (CNN, MSNBC, etc...) all stream video just fine without Flash on my iOS devices.
What other "major sites" are you referring to?

d4rk5ky said,
While their is so much hate for flash, the majority of websites still rely on it, so how will users access those sites?.
Actually the majority of websites don't, and never have used Flash

Most websites that offer streaming video, offer it in Flash and HTML5.

Most other websites that have flash on them are banners adverts [ no loss there ], and Flash games..

Hardly a majority..

fuzi0719 said,
Like current implementations of HTML5 are any better? They suck. Suck badly.

I don't know what you know about HTML 5 but it's actually very powerful (flash maybe more so) and it works on most devices, no plugins needed, doesn't deteriorate battery life like flash does and it integrates better with other languages like javascript. But yeah the stuff people have done with HTML 5 aren't very spectacular yet, however the Bing homepage does look very flashy (pardon the pun)

smooth3006 said,
Simple solution is to backup the apk.

Yeah, that's what I plan on doing, as my device is still running gingerbread, so TitaniumBackup FTW in my case.

a0me said,
Biased much? Flash sucks. Period. Apple had realized that 5 years ago.

Flash was fine on high end computers. and Netflix Flash was far better than Netflix Silverlight. (yuck) HTML5 is coming along but could be fun with youtube which sometimes is html5 and sometimes flash and one never knows which one you'll get..

PatrynXX said,

Flash was fine on high end computers. and Netflix Flash was far better than Netflix Silverlight. (yuck) HTML5 is coming along but could be fun with youtube which sometimes is html5 and sometimes flash and one never knows which one you'll get..

You needed a really highend Mac for Flash to be "fine".. It was filled with massive memory holes, high CPU use, and buggy.

Adobe told Apple they didn't care about their users, and Apple responded by shutting them out of one of the biggest new markets of the last decade. Kinda poetic imho..

Ryoken said,
You needed a really highend Mac for Flash to be "fine".. It was filled with massive memory holes, high CPU use, and buggy.

Adobe told Apple they didn't care about their users, and Apple responded by shutting them out of one of the biggest new markets of the last decade. Kinda poetic imho..

Also a rather biased viewpoint. You're missing the fact that Apple refused to give Adobe access to the APIs to fix Flash, as they had done on the PC (hardware acceleration etc.). Also, Adobe never said 'screw Apple users'.

Apple were in fact the first to act; out of nowhere they decided 'no Flash on Apple', due apparently to its poor performance... yet, simultaneously they refused Adobe the means to correct it. Usual Apple arrogance, but fair dues it was a bold move to go HTML5 only and it seems to have paid off... although HTML5 still lacks many things Flash supports, so isn't a fully functional replacement YET.

adam.mt said,

Also a rather biased viewpoint. You're missing the fact that Apple refused to give Adobe access to the APIs to fix Flash,


Link?
Apple were in fact the first to act; out of nowhere they decided 'no Flash on Apple',

And yet my iMac and MacBook are running the latest Flash player... Confused much?

well what sense does this make.....they are stopping new installs for flash on android...so basically their intention is that websites change their mobile layout from flash based to html5 based....

now if a website goes from flash to html5 on mobile, wont it do the same for desktop too....it would be easier to manage one format over both sites....

so why develop flash for pc then ??? i mean once all websites do become html dependent..im surely not gonna keep flash

Flash is dying off, mobile and desktop.

They are stopping the Mobile version because it's the least used. It's a much smaller marketshare of people that have it installed, and mobile websites [ and most desktop sites ] already offer non-flash versions for people using iOS, or without Flash installed on their desktop.

The culprit was Apple, which refused to support Flash for its iOS devices, including the iPhone and iPad. Even though there are a ton of web applications that still use Flash, most notably games and video applications, Apple's blockade of Flash effectively sealed the deal for future mobile Flash development.

Umm.. what ?

So because Apple doesn't allow Flash on their iOS devices, that mean Adobe has to stop developing it for Android/BB ?

Don't get me wrong, I hate Flash, and will be glad to see it go, but blaming Apple is a low blow.. Maybe you can also blame BB and Google for their OS's not becoming the dominate mobile OS's..

Adobe Chose of their own free will to abandon Flash for Android and BB. They are the only ones who take any "blame" [ if you must call it that ] for killing it.

Not really sure how you can say 'The culprit was Apple'.

Sure Apple said no to Flash, it doesnt mean Apple was the cause of Flash's death. Apple is one company, there are more PC users than Apple Users and PC users have Flash installed.

_kane81 said,
Apple is one company, there are more PC users than Apple Users and PC users have Flash installed.

Mac users also have Flash installed.

The only thing that I can hope for is that the Flash development software becomes a comparable HTML5 editor. Other than that, Flash will still live on as an animation tool, because that is where the software really shines.

koolguy said,
Isn't this too fast? Maybe they should wait until HTML5 gets implemented fully.

Screw it, a lot of big sites have already started the transition or have been testing. This will kick it into high gear. I know I'm personally very excited of the thought that Flash will be gone soon.

It should be found on other places maybe amazon but to remove it from use period is stupid! It's needed for many many things still.

They need to force it, flash is on the way out, adobe agrees.

Too many sites still use it and anything that speeds up the process of using alternatives that support mobile/new platforms using standards is a great thing.

This isn't a new trend, people have known what is coming. Needs to be done.

sava700 said,
It should be found on other places maybe amazon but to remove it from use period is stupid! It's needed for many many things still.
Well they aren't developing it anymore, so need it or not, it's dead for mobile devices.

I really don't like how they're making you unable to download Flash through the Play Store now. Can't they just leave it there for devices on ICS or older?

Ambroos said,
I really don't like how they're making you unable to download Flash through the Play Store now. Can't they just leave it there for devices on ICS or older?
According to an article from another site, Adobe will just be blocking *new* installs. If you had it installed and they release an update to flash for security, etc. those people will be able to update.