Qualcomm announces Snapdragon 810 and 808 64-bit processors

Qualcomm is already announcing their new and much more powerful mobile processors they plan to offer smartphone and tablet makers for the first half of 2015. Today, the chip company announced the Snapdragon 810 and 808, both of which support 64-bit programs.

The Snapdragon 810 is the more powerful of the two chips, with eight cores inside. Four of them are high end ARM Cortex-A57 CPUs while the other four are low power Cortex-A53 chips. It will also have the Adreno 430 GPU which Qualcomm claims to have up to 30 percent better performance that the Adreno 420, which isn't even available yet in current devices. The 810 will be able to handle LPDDR4 RAM for memory and will support up to 4K displays.

The 810 will also support the recently announced MU-Mino wireless technology, which the company says will offer much faster WiFi performance for smartphone and tablets. The Snapdragon 808 will be slightly less powerful than the 810. It will have six cores inside; two Cortex-A57 CPUs and a quad Cortex-A53 CPU. It will have the Adreno 418 GPU and support for LPDDR3 RAM.

Qualcomm is still planning to launch its first 64-bit chips, the Snapdragon 610 and 615, sometime before the end of 2014.

Source: Qualcomm | Image via Qualcomm

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seems interesting but instead of 4 cores they should concentrate on single thread performance as most apps do little to no-multicore usage as it is very difficult and software is off course not infinitely parallelizable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl%27s_law

indeed, if instead of ramming an ever increasing number of cores they would instead concentrate on single thread performance with 2-4 cores, that would yield a significantly more noticeable speed improvement in apps instead of allowing for more apps to run concurrently which at this point isn't that big of an issue with 4 cores on a phone and tablet.

so while the more cores FTW in the server space still applies, these guys seem to be chasing the marketing spec sheet more than anything.

No doubt, you are correct in what you say, but I would hazard a guess that Qualcomm are designing chips based on their customers' requirements, not simply as a marketting excercise.

I'm pretty sure dual core is heavily utilized because even if apps are single threaded this allows the foreground app to use 100% of a CPU and still have a second available for the OS and other background processes. These chips are using ARMs big.LITTLE architecture so it makes sense to have a quad even with dual Cortex A57s and dual Cortex-A53s since only one set may be operating at a time. Your right though in that 6 and 8 cores aren't necessary.

It's also telling that these chips use ARM Cortex CPUs instead of QualComms own Krait+ design. It shows that Apple really caught them with their pants down and their own engineered solution isn't ready yet so they're rushing a licensed design until they can get theirs up and running.

I do like the idea of 4 x power cores and 4 x lower power cores, if the OS is able to intelligently schedule threads to the correct cores we should see much better battery life.

lomas said,
8 cores, seriously?

does that mean snapdragon 810 is faster than my intel i5 processor? O_o

not a serious question, surely..

ZipZapRap said,

not a serious question, surely..


The guy is asking a question, no reason to make fun of him.

ZipZapRap said,

not a serious question, surely..


Number of cores does not increase performance; but rather decreases how much your phone slows down when multi tasking.

Jarrichvdv said,

Number of cores does not increase performance; but rather decreases how much your phone slows down when multi tasking.

That kinda means it increases performance in those scenarios.

lomas said,
8 cores, seriously?

does that mean snapdragon 810 is faster than my intel i5 processor? O_o

It depends on no of transistors?

y2k2r2d2 said,

It depends on no of transistors?


ARM and X86 are not mutual exchangeable :p
When it comes to raw power. The Tegra 3 kinda equals the Core 2 Duo's.

So ARM is a bit beyond core 2 duo's if you compare it to x86. This might rival a low i3 perhaps? Not to sure.

Different architectures,manufacturing process but you know It might just rival it , Raw power in processing doesn't come from power (watt) nowadays!

ZipZapRap said,

Unlikely. Maybe Atom


A core 2 duo is stronger than an Atom though.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/110?vs=65

Just little information about benchmarks, can find one proper one where a Tegra3 takes on a core2duo (not sure which version) and in most area's it does better than the core2duo.
And this chip being a generation further (plus the tegra 3 not being the best of its generation either)..

sanke1 said,

That kinda means it increases performance in those scenarios.

No, it just doesn't slow down.

Kinda depends on how you look at it, I think.

deadonthefloor said,
I'm sure Windows Runtime Async operations could make use of all the cores.
The async commands, i.e. the ones using the await keyword, don't actually use multiple threads. They actually just allow the single thread to do something else while it's waiting for a slow operation to complete, e.g. network, disk, etc.
Obviously that's not to say that windows runtime apps can't take advantage of multi-core, just that async isn't an area that will.

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