Report: Xbox One can be powered for 10 years; software is almost done

While Microsoft has yet to announce the official dimensions for the retail Xbox One console, many people who have seen the case at E3 have commented on how large it is. Now a new report claims that the size of the console helps to make it run for 10 years with a continuous power connection.

Eurogamer's Digital Foundry team claims, via unnamed sources, that the Xbox One case was designed to be large in part because they wanted better heat dissipation. The story claims that the testing that has done in house indicates the console can not only run for a decade with power but in standby mode the console is almost silent.

By the way, the current estimate of the Xbox One's dimensions, based on using the size of its known components, are 34x26x8cm, (13.3x10.2x3.1 inches) according to the article.

The same report also claims that the software inside the console is getting close to completion. Microsoft hopes to cut down on load times for Xbox One games, which has been a sore point of Xbox 360 console owners. The Xbox One has been made to keep games in a suspended memory state while the console is in standby mode, which should allow for owners to start playing games quickly when the console goes into its full power mode.

Finally, the story claims that Microsoft will use its upcoming appearance at the Gamescom convention in Germany to show that the Xbox One is capable of starting up instantly from standby mode. Microsoft will hold a press conference on August 20th, the day before the convention opens.

Source: Eurogamer.net | Image via Microsoft

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My Atari still runs and it's been at least 35 years. Is this supposed to be impressive? All of my consoles since then still work. Are they saying it'll break in 10 years or be unusable because of the lack of some online service?

Geezy said,
My Atari still runs and it's been at least 35 years. Is this supposed to be impressive? All of my consoles since then still work. Are they saying it'll break in 10 years or be unusable because of the lack of some online service?

They are saying that each console should have a minimum runtime of 87648 hours. I'm doubtful you've had your atari on constantly for 100+ days a year since you got it 35 years ago, and even so its simplistic design compared to new consoles means a greatly reduced chance of a latent failure. Computer mainboard manufacturers starting using 'high quality caps' to make 'better lasting boards' which is about all that MS is really saying here. They didn't cheap out on the components of the console. Anyone who adopted a 360 before 2008 will agree MS definitely cheaped out on the 360 manufacturing.

I really ponder sometimes if MS released/aided the original drive hack infos to bait consumers into buying the faulty system and voiding their warranty for 'free games'. Knowing the systems would fail, But by then they are invested into the system/accessories and would buy another system, then MS got screwed by the KK shader exploit discovery, or if it was just unlucky timing that the systems which were easiest hackable were incredibly unreliable.

Edited by srbeen, Aug 2 2013, 12:05pm :

It's good they learned from their lesson (which cost them $$$) and did proper design / testing of the system. Took me a second to decrypt the title.

Athernar said,
Can be powered for 10 years on one single AAA battery!

"Now a new report claims that the size of the console helps to make it run for 10 years with a continuous power connection."

Does the title and this above sentence make any sense at all to anyone?

I don't get it, what's so special about it being able to run continously for 10 years? So can my refrigerator. I am guessing what they are trying to convey is that it is designed to use very little power so running for 10 years continuously wouldn't cost a fortune but the way the article is titled just doesn't make much sense. Basically it seems they are trying to justify the "always on" approach.

more interesting in the multi tasking aspect of it. with hyperV and the dual OS architecture, it should make the PS4 look like a rock in comparison when it comes to agile multi tasking app demands users expect. nothing else will do.

I think now away days more people use their console for more then just games. In fact the majority is other things besides games. Anyways the amount of memory past 4GB doesn't matter. Both console can't do 4K very well. We will have to wait until Next Next Gen.

0--JLowzrif said,
Yay more workload and resources to the stupid apps/dual OS's instead of the games.

2006 - we got bluray man,best system on the planet,yay
2013 - wtf media? this is a games system man, best system on the planet,yay

neonspark said,
more interesting in the multi tasking aspect of it. with hyperV and the dual OS architecture, it should make the PS4 look like a rock in comparison when it comes to agile multi tasking app demands users expect. nothing else will do.

Do you even know what HyperV means or are you just going along with the hyped-up buzzwords?

vcfan said,

2006 - we got bluray man,best system on the planet,yay
2013 - wtf media? this is a games system man, best system on the planet,yay

The single-panel comic you're imagining is a 20-something guy on a sofa watching an Xbox One announcement video on his console's YouTube app while complaining "It's the games, stupid!"

Tha Bloo Monkee said,

just going along with the hyped-up buzzwords?
That's about all they have left in the face of a huge hardware advantage.

Sony reserved 3GB+ of RAM for their OS specifically to match X1's multitasking capabilities.

Edited by startscreennope, Jul 31 2013, 11:05pm :

vcfan said,

2006 - we got bluray man,best system on the planet,yay
2013 - wtf media? this is a games system man, best system on the planet,yay

Promoting Blu-Ray was a bit of a cop-out for the PS3's ridiculous launch price, but MS's reliance on HDMI input and kinect in the face of a huge hardware disadvantage is even more ridiculous.

Well, those apps can enhance those games so sure. You are welcome to play with a 1995 PlayStation if you would like.

Here is a hint, why not do a little research instead of being so flippant. That way it won't make you look so bad.

Almost silent in standby mode? I'm kinda scared a fan may need to kick in to cool the unit while I have it basically 'off'. Their PSU brick must be the sore-spot on those power specs as its external I do believe. Stable DC power to something will last as long as the caps installed. So basically they bought the 25 cent caps instead of the 20 cent ones.

Theres always hope for a cable tuner USB addon, Avatar Roku. Im thinking selling you internet-accessible cable TV channels will be more likley and you can stream on demand live programming, or afterwards stream the show, or download copies that will expire.

srbeen said,
Stable DC power to something will last as long as the caps installed.

It's way more complicated than that. Thermal aging on inductor cores, for instance, can play a role in space-constrained designs.

Mordkanin said,

It's way more complicated than that. Thermal aging on inductor cores, for instance, can play a role in space-constrained designs.

Considering electronics got smaller and the console got larger I presume they have adequate cooling. The billion dollar 3RLOD fiasco hopefully helped them do this too. Leaving it up all the time which stabilizes its temperature is more beneficial to electronics than powering up/down. Ever see a lightbulb break while its on? probably, but you've likely seen more of them break when they are being turned off/on. Guaranteed their '10 year spec' is based off running it continuously for 10 years, not running it as most people who use it will.

srbeen said,
Leaving it up all the time which stabilizes its temperature is more beneficial to electronics than powering up/down.

For some types of electronics, on/off surges and thermal cycling are killers, but for others, prolonged exposure to high temperature is what does them in. Inductors, for instance, become more lossy over time at high heat. Electrolytics suffer from something similar.

As we saw with the 360, it was annealing, or prolonged exposure to high temperatures that caused the brittleness of the solder they used.

If they included a tuner in the device, they couldn't get the cable and satellite companies to support it. As it is now, it is possible that in 2014 the cable companies might be willing to sell the XBox One for $99 - $199 on certain subscription plans. I could easily see it for this price on a 2 year subscription. It will help stop cord cutting and if MS truly produce interactive live tv shows, a cable subscription or an external tuner will be required for it to work. It will be interesting to see what MS produces with their new studios.

Drewidian said,
If they included a tuner in the device, they couldn't get the cable and satellite companies to support it. As it is now, it is possible that in 2014 the cable companies might be willing to sell the XBox One for $99 - $199 on certain subscription plans. I could easily see it for this price on a 2 year subscription. It will help stop cord cutting and if MS truly produce interactive live tv shows, a cable subscription or an external tuner will be required for it to work. It will be interesting to see what MS produces with their new studios.

In the USA they wouldn't have a problem getting support. Cable companies are required by federal law to support any device with Cable card support.

LogicalApex said,

In the USA they wouldn't have a problem getting support. Cable companies are required by federal law to support any device with Cable card support.


By leaving it up to the cable and Satellite companies they don't dictate the type of hardware necessary for compatibility and they get the opportunity to have it on any network. It also means it could be implemented world wide if they can partner with those networks which may have varying standards.

A couple issues with an internal tv tuner.

1) a Quad tuner would be minimum required to compete with cable/sat dvr. A 6 tuner would be better to stay cutting edge. You're looking at additional $200-300 at least
to the price of the xbone. Not to mention the additional costs for MS to develop, support, and maintain. They haven't touched Windows Media Center in years(other than the price tag) and that just shows their commitment or lack thereof.
2) Heat. TV Tuners generate a lot of heat and the xbox has heat issues even without a tv tuner inside. This has got to be the #1 reason why you will not see a tv tuner inside.

Nope, most TV providers are moving towards IP based newer Eurodocsis protocols over here. Apps will do it all behind a router that delivers more service to different products in the household. Tuners are old-fashioned and will only be good for TV sets. The HDMI in is there for when a provider does not provide this functionality yet.