Researcher claims stuxnet was a US/Israel joint venture

A German researcher is claiming that the United States and Israel Intelligence and Special Operations department (Mossad) were behind the 2010 malicious Stuxnet worm which attempted to attack Iran's nuclear program. During the TED conference in Southern California, Ralph Langner claims "My opinion is that the Mossad is involved, [...] but, the leading source is not Israel... There is only one leading source, and that is the United States." Tensions have been high since Tehran accused the United States of murdering two Iranian nuclear scientists in November of last year and January of this year.

The Stuxnet worm was created to target industrial control systems made by the German giant Siemens, these are mostly used to mange water supplies, power stations and on oil rigs.

"...it was engineered by people who obviously had inside information," Langner explained. "The idea here is to circumvent digital data systems, so the human operator could not get there fast enough."

The New York Times claimed in January that stuxnet was created by the US and Israeli military to stop Iran developing a nuclear weapon. This report triggered Russia, who built the Iranian nuclear site, to urge NATO to launch an investigation into the worm, saying the attack could have triggered another Chernobyl like disaster.

According to Langner, one of the most horrifying aspects of the attack is that it is generic; the worm would work perfectly against national infrastructure in other countries such as the United States and in Europe. "We'd better start preparing right now." said Langner.

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Interesting that this is coming from a German researcher. Wonder if he has any bias considering the systems that were susceptible to the attack were the operation controls of the Siemens designed system. In fact, if the Stuxnet worm was developed by the West then there is a very high probability that it included Germans or at the very least experts from Siemens due to the high level of knowledge needed to target these specific systems.

Either way, this German researcher and article holds absolutely no merit. No one cares about your opinion, tell us about the proof that you have uncovered to support your position.

bradsday said,
Interesting that this is coming from a German researcher. Wonder if he has any bias considering the systems that were susceptible to the attack were the operation controls of the Siemens designed system. In fact, if the Stuxnet worm was developed by the West then there is a very high probability that it included Germans or at the very least experts from Siemens due to the high level of knowledge needed to target these specific systems.

Either way, this German researcher and article holds absolutely no merit. No one cares about your opinion, tell us about the proof that you have uncovered to support your position.

Actually, the "generic" statement concering the virus and it's target is fairly spot-on - there are only so many ways you can mess around with PLC controllers, regardless if they're connected to a SCADA system or not - which makes nearly any PLCs vulnerable to the attacks in question, regardless of who is the vendor or manufacturer of the controller. Most Process Control equipment and networks, especially if connected to a SCADA system, are usually isolated from publically-available communications networks as a good business practice. Evidently, Iran wasn't concerned about this attack vector, since Stuxnet had such easy access to their production networks.

Yet more evidence that the current government in Iran will be their own undoing, and is their own worst enemy. There's nothing like the joy of watching a bunch of chest-pounding, megalomaniacal dictatorships implode - sadly, that joy is cancelled-out by the suffering of the usually innocent populace

--ScottKin

china owns US economy? Yea it owns like 1% of the national debt nice try but please don't make statements you do not understand.

NyaR said,
china owns US economy? Yea it owns like 1% of the national debt nice try but please don't make statements you do not understand.

I do understand..im taking economics courses myself...they have bought a lot of our bonds...if they dump those bonds...we're in trouble...the treasury dept is saying that the US will stop buying its own debt...guess who is going to buy that debt?not the taxpayer that's for sure...and when was the last time you saw anything made in the USA...that was actually made here?

Can we (US) stop aiding this foul (Israel) regime? Now we have cyber attacks in South Korea, GEE, I WONDER WHY!? >_>

Azies said,
Can we (US) stop aiding this foul (Israel) regime? Now we have cyber attacks in South Korea, GEE, I WONDER WHY!? >_>

Israel is our friend. Iran, North Korea, Russia, and China are not. The latter two just to pretend to put up with us, and technically China now owns the US economy. North Korea and China orchestrated the cyber attacks on South Korea.

Azies said,
Can we (US) stop aiding this foul (Israel) regime? Now we have cyber attacks in South Korea, GEE, I WONDER WHY!? >_>

I'll remind you of what you said when you see a nuclear missile flying over your house : ).

eviltwigflipper said,

I'll remind you of what you said when you see a nuclear missile flying over your house : ).


If Iran develops nuclear weapons, you won't have to see any missiles flying to/over US. Because of the simple fact that Hezbollah already can get inside US with any weapons, without any troubles. By digging tunnels under Mexico-US border: http://dailynewspulse.com/hezb...-infiltrate-the-u-s/226483/

Azies said,
Can we (US) stop aiding this foul (Israel) regime? Now we have cyber attacks in South Korea, GEE, I WONDER WHY!? >_>

Because US wants to **** off the whole world. And they can get away with that for some time.

jwoodfin09 said,

Israel is our friend. Iran, North Korea, Russia, and China are not. The latter two just to pretend to put up with us, and technically China now owns the US economy. North Korea and China orchestrated the cyber attacks on South Korea.

I am not sure we have any friends anymore. No, not even Israel.

azure.sapphire said,

I am not sure we have any friends anymore. No, not even Israel.


Israel still is but....they worry that the US might bolt on them...

You know it would be a damn shame if this virus pop'd the oil rig last year. I mean this explosion was two months after the virus was released.

This was just a thought but the timing is little weird, and the oil rig did have some Siemens parts but not sure if they would be related.

1WayJonny said,
You know it would be a damn shame if this virus pop'd the oil rig last year. I mean this explosion was two months after the virus was released.

This was just a thought but the timing is little weird, and the oil rig did have some Siemens parts but not sure if they would be related.

That is odd.. Could the government have been testing their worm in the real world?

I'm actually slightly worried that they'll try to claim that... Instead of the lack of oversight, cutting of corners and general lack of regard for safety and protocol that actually led to the explosion.

1WayJonny said,
You know it would be a damn shame if this virus pop'd the oil rig last year. I mean this explosion was two months after the virus was released.

See my post above. The "researcher" (re: attention whore) is wrong when he discusses how "generic" the worm was.

It's mossad not mossas btw.

Either way, wouldn't surprise me and they're right about possibility of creating another Chernobyl if they let loose with it.

Digitalx said,
It's mossad not mossas btw.

Yep it's Mossad (and not MOSSAD, it's not an acronym; it's an abbreviation). It's also the Institute for Intelligence and Special Operations, not "Israel National Intelligence Agency" (unless that was meant to be Israel's and intelligence agency in the general sense ).

ascendant123 said,

Yep it's Mossad (and not MOSSAD, it's not an acronym; it's an abbreviation). It's also the Institute for Intelligence and Special Operations, not "Israel National Intelligence Agency" (unless that was meant to be Israel's and intelligence agency in the general sense ).


Mossad is not an abbreviation.

Inclined said,

Mossad is not an abbreviation.

Actually it is. In Hebrew it is "aMossad leModi'in uleTafkidim Meyuchadim". Mossad is simply an abbreviation of the entire name.

ascendant123 said,

Actually it is. In Hebrew it is "aMossad leModi'in uleTafkidim Meyuchadim". Mossad is simply an abbreviation of the entire name.


That's not an abbrevuation, that's using one word instead of several. You can't abbreviate several words into one. Props (see what I did there?) For visiting Wikipedia, though.

Inclined said,

That's not an abbrevuation, that's using one word instead of several. You can't abbreviate several words into one. Props (see what I did there?) For visiting Wikipedia, though.

The definition of an abbreviation is a word or phrase. Quite possibly an untraditional use of the word but perfectly acceptable in modern parlance.

I actually got the full name from mossad.gov.il; even if I had sourced it from Wikipedia it would of still been accurate and would not of changed the fact, though. Congratulations for having an attitude problem though.

Edited by ascendant123, Mar 8 2011, 6:38am :

Its interesting to see who is infected by this! It would also have crippled the Steel Mill I worked on a few years back! Very interesting stuff.

Unlikely. The worm was SPECIFICALLY targeted to cause Iranian centrifuges to silently destroy themselves so they couldn't be used to process nuclear fuel.

The "researcher" quoted in the article is apparently unaware that the worm is much less generic than he is making it out to be.

Since this information is public knowledge, it's pretty clear he's got no credibility here.

sure.

the stuxnet was masterfully planned, executed without any flaws, and made what it was supposed to do, slow down the retarded iranian regime.

all those who opposed to the whole thing, are mainly muslims(ehich is funny cause all muslims country fear and hate iran, and it's nuclear plan.) or brainwashed imbeciles, that loves to scream "USA IS EVIL! USA CAUSED THE SUN TO EXPLOAD IN A BILLION YEARS!!
and all the insane claims our forum have to swallow.

of course as any thinking man knows, it's just a pre strike delay.

p.s
i think it's israel doing, only they posses the ability and sophistication to pull this complex plan.

R1pper said,
sure.

the stuxnet was masterfully planned, executed without any flaws, and made what it was supposed to do, slow down the retarded iranian regime.

all those who opposed to the whole thing, are mainly muslims(ehich is funny cause all muslims country fear and hate iran, and it's nuclear plan.) or brainwashed imbeciles, that loves to scream "USA IS EVIL! USA CAUSED THE SUN TO EXPLOAD IN A BILLION YEARS!!
and all the insane claims our forum have to swallow.

of course as any thinking man knows, it's just a pre strike delay.

p.s
i think it's israel doing, only they posses the ability and sophistication to pull this complex plan.

WTF? Seriously.

Pupik said,
Wake me up when something going to be published, without keywords like: "claiming" and "my opinion".

i agree