RIAA finds new unlikely target: Usenet.com

In the southern district of New York, the Recording Industry Association of America filed a lawsuit on October 12 saying that Usenet newsgroups contain "millions of copyrighted sound recordings" in violation of federal law. Usenet.com, based in Fargo, N.D., boasts that signing up for an account "gives you access to millions of MP3 files and also enables you to post your own files the same way and share them with the whole world." That's what caught the RIAA's eye. With a quote like that, the organization has the backing it needs to win in court.

Many ISPs, universities and newsgroup archives offer Usenet. If RIAA succeeds, they may not stop with Usenet.com. The lawsuit claims Usenet.com encourages its customers to pay up to $19 a month by enticing them with copyrighted music, and asks for a permanent injunction barring the company from "aiding, encouraging, enabling, inducing, causing, materially contributing to, or otherwise facilitating" copyright infringement.

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Looks like this is the end of Usenet as we know it.

Usenet.com is just the obvious starting point if you want to stop the pie stealers start with piestealers.com.

The RIAA will win this by throwing however much money it takes at the case and that will give them precedent which will make it easier when they sue all the other providers.

This will mean that providers will either shutdown or start to filter the content they carry and usenet will be back to nothing but text files.

If you read the documents they aren't just suing because usenet.com advertised their users ability to access MP3s etc. they are also suing them for owning servers which hold the copyrighted materials on them and allowing their users to post copyrighted materials.

Of course it won't stop the pirates because they'll just move to another method.

i hope everyone that runs or helps the RIAA starves to death and gets some strange virus that makes there limps fall off, maybe kills there kids and then maybe they might know what its like for all the people those lame ******* sue

Whilst I agree that they are sometimes wide of the mark with their targets, I'd stop short of trying to justify your opinion by wishing ill health on employees of said Company.

It's...well..wrong. I bet the majority of RIAA employees work there for one reason and one reason only....to feed their kids, put clothes on their backs and a roof over their heads, so how about a little more tact.

Wiggz said,
Whilst I agree that they are sometimes wide of the mark with their targets, I'd stop short of trying to justify your opinion by wishing ill health on employees of said Company.

It's...well..wrong. I bet the majority of RIAA employees work there for one reason and one reason only....to feed their kids, put clothes on their backs and a roof over their heads, so how about a little more tact.


yeh, and they stop other people from feeding their own kids and getting clothes and having a house

yeh, and they stop other people from feeding their own kids and getting clothes and having a house

I don't like the RIAA, but you're totally deluded.

TRC said,

I don't like the RIAA, but you're totally deluded. :blink:


And your a complete fool if you think that isn't true. There many thousands of lives the RIAA has totally ruined, literally. Over something that cost them NOTHING.

America plain sucks anymore. Our justice system is a complete joke. Our country is run by a bunch of lieing idiots in both parties who do nothing but cater to whomever has the money (RIAA/MPAA).


Mokusei said,
riaa is your fault usa. columb makes a big mistake... when flows to india.

world would be a better place without americans.

world would be a better place without ignorant mouth-breathers like you that waste what little clean oxygen we have left spouting useless babel like you have done. Go find your rock and go back under it

Mike Frett said,
But without America the world would fall apart diplomatically.

LOL. I don't agree with his statement, but yours is some serious BS to. Typical big headed yank.

Everything EXCEPT adjust to the times and revamp their distribution model in order to maximize profit from their huge underutilized back catalog libraries. :P

Gotta wonder how smart their technical people are, when you've been able to get any amount of copyrighted material on usenet for oh.. About as long as it's existed!

I mean, come on... It's been there 27+ years and they've only just noticed? Dumbasses.

It will be utterly impossible for them to stop it, due to the way it's decentralised and how the data propagates. They'd have to actually shut the entire system down, and the only way to do that is to shut down the entire internet.

No, they just know they can't do anything about it. In fact, the only reason they are suing Usenet.COM is that most outlets will be stupid enough to abbreviate the story as "RIAA sues Usenet", which sounds like they are going after the entire usenet system...which even their own lawyers know is absurd. But it isn't designed to scare YOU, it's designed to scare the usenet server providers. However, since they are the same vendors who manage the server farms for AT&T, Comcast, TW Roadrunner, etc. etc. you can see why they've gotten SPANKED every time they've gone anywhere near this issue.

The best the RIAA could ever do is force usenet hosting companies to move north to Canada or Sweden or...etc., etc.. And what have they accomplished at that point? Nothing. Just more FUD.

Their goal is to maintain their dying stranglehold on the music industry as long as they can...to milk every penny they can out of their old-school distribution paradigm.

It's a shame really, they have these huge libraries of music from the past centuries. And only < 1% of it is available to any of us at any time as consumers and only for a very small market. What they really should be doing is releasing their entire back catalogs worldwide. With digital distribution, they can sell millions of artists to billions of customers, instead of a handful of drivel bands to the few million teeny boppers who still listen to generic boy band pap.

The online distribution model opens up DIVERSITY in choice of content AND available customers. When an obscure blues artist from the 40's suddenly becomes all the range in Shanghai, it's just as profitable to the bottom line as the weak sales of a has-been Britney Spears album. And it would be happening all over the world.

FloatingFatMan said,
Gotta wonder how smart their technical people are, when you've been able to get any amount of copyrighted material on usenet for oh.. About as long as it's existed!

I mean, come on... It's been there 27+ years and they've only just noticed? Dumbasses.


Um, there was no internet 27 years ago.

spacer said,

Um, there was no internet 27 years ago.

Usenet, just like IRC and Telnet, predates the WWW. It was born back in 1979 and you wouldn't believe some of the things it's been used for in the past 28 years...

Let 'em fight a losing battle. By the time they're done suing everyone, the industry will have passed them by, leaving them in the annals of corporations that failed because of excessive greed.

We already have passed them by. These are the confused, desperate last gasps of the studio dinosaurs as they sink into the online tarpits of digital distribution.

Old music is already free of their usurious tyranny, while the newest/biggest musicians have begun cutting them out entirely.

The studios should go back to focusing on television and features, which have a huge cost of investment and are therefore currently out of the ability of the common man with a home computer to duplicate - unlike any musician these days. They can record, master, and distribute out of their basement on their own equipment for peanuts.

It was only a matter of time before the artists learned they no longer needed middle men who take 95% of their fees just to grease recording, promotional, and distribution wheels they already completely owned and controlled to begin with.

The Internet, and P2P in particular, is just digital radio in its purest form, folks. We figured that out with Napster. The studios are still wondering why they're up to their necks in online tar while we, the digital consumer monkeys they seem to hate so much, throw rocks at their whining walnut-brained heads.

Good riddance.

Next they will sue Bill gates or Steve Jobs for creating software that runs software that allows the downloading of illegal content...

well they were going to sue microsoft windows media player to creating a way a rip music off CDs.
so in a way they actually almost did.

Joseph21 said,
well they were going to sue microsoft windows media player to creating a way a rip music off CDs.
so in a way they actually almost did.

Let's stop and wonder for a second why that didn't happen......... :)

RIAA need to seriously look at their mission statement!

hitting the newsgroups, eh? why not go after irc next? really p!ss off ALL the geeks out there.

not the smartest thing the riaa's done, i must say. maybe they should just leave this one alone

Well when they advertise it ... come on.

Of course those millions of MP3s don't have to be illegal, but surely they'd be best advertising a platform to distribute files and not one to find the latest boy band album.

"They have enough money as it is."

exactly! cause it's like once you hit a certain point with money, it's rather useless to get more of it.... which im sure a good chunk of those higher up RIAA guys already have and then some.