RIAA sues 'pirate outfit' for $1.6 trillion

THE Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) has said that it is suing a Russian online music outfit for $1.6 trillion. Although it has been known that the RIAA intended to sue Mediaservices, which owns AllofMP3.com and allTunes.com, for illegally flogging copyrighted music, it was not clear how much or how the recording industry lobby group intended to do it.

Now, according to Zeropaid.com, it seems that the RIAA want $150,000 for each of the 11 million songs allegedly pirated. No one knows how much cash the site has made, but it is certainly not in trillions of dollars. The other thing that the RIAA seems to be doing is taking its court action in New York and not in Russia where AllofMP3 operates

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They sue company's who make money out of piracy. So can i sue them as they are now clearly trying to make a profit themselfs out of piracy?

I shall now sue for $2.0 Trillion :P

Alltunes (the program used to browse and "buy" songs from allofmp3.com) is by far the best online music store format i have ever used. Apple and Microsoft could learn a thing or two, and should. It's a damn shame it will now all go down the pan. Maybe i'll just get a Diners card so i can still top up my balance.

I agree.

It's simple but good. The way you can specify the format you download in, album art, searching features etc. I wish they would port the their AllTunes application to Mac OS X.

CD from HMV: $15
Getting tracks off iTunes: $1
Getting your butt sued by RIAA: $1,600,000,000,000

Not even Mastercard can pay for this.

As a judge, it would be an easy decision to punish AllofMP3 for possible copyright infringement, and sanction the RIAA for procedural violations:

"1) The RIAA is awarded the requested sum of $1.6 Trillion USD.
2) AllofMP3 shall pay the RIAA and artists thereof, $10 for 1.6 Billion years.

Slam of the Gavel and a Bailiff's cry for 'All Rise'..."

--Everyone's happy

attention QUINTIX256.

China's communist, not capitalist... so i reckon you can thank the communists for "improving the quality of life for the Chinese"

why is neowin so behind in these news? anyways...

Only 9 countries's GDP is higher than $1.65 trillain.. and Russia ranks right below that. So I guess Russia is going to pay off the rest w/ nukes?

Take it to Russia and the judges will go " RIAA...you're stupid"

Keep it in the US and the judges will go " Russia is right...you guys are retarded. Now get the hell out"

I didn't think there was much issue with piracy in Russia, isn't it down to the government to set laws on piracy, and the RIAA are out of this jurisdiction to do something about it?

Sure, what the russian site is doing is illegal, but the most they can do about it would be to get the site shut down :-/.

Who even has $1.6 trillion anyway? I didn't think this amount of money was in existance.

On top of this, one song download is not worth $150,000! The RIAA is just a greedy company that is not going to last, one thing that can never be prevented is piracy, with media there'll be piracy.

Counter-balance is a natural thing.

wahahaha lmao.

"ah mail is in..... let's see ........ 50$ phone, hmmm.......203$ rent......... :nuts: 1.6 Trilion$ piracy bill.........

They arent genuinely trying to get this amount of money from AllOfMP3, and know damn well they wont get it - they are using that huge scary amount in the hope that AllOfMP3 will get scared and declare bankruptcy or do a runner and close down.

Which reeks of the worst kind of bullying mobster scaremonger tactics to me, gee why am i not surprised given who we are talking about? I love it when people talk about AllOfMP3 etc being run by the russian mafia...perhaps thats why the RIAA really hates them, its just gangster infighting

^ probably already mentioned but i only just woke up and havent read all the other comments yet :redface:

Is this the same bunch of jokes that recently wanted to lower the artists's cut of music sales?

They keep ripping air out of their asses.

ROFL @ trying to get that kind of money out of them. Take the top 10 richest people alive and you don't even get close to 1.6 trillion.

What a bunch of tossers.

Think about it. All they are doing is making these sites more public and more people will be checking them out. Thats the funniest part for me.

Grow up everyone. You all are laughing and trying to pull figures out of your heads that this is bull****. They never will expect allofmp3 to pay this.

They are trying to make a point. Piracy is wrong. Who cares if it isn't actually hurting the artists or if the RIAA is a stupid organization that is run by idiots. The point is that it is piracy run a muck and they are try to stop it.

Plus one of the main reasons why Russia was admitted into the WTO (?) was that they started fighting piracy (namely allofmp3). This is a good first step. I hope they go out of business.

I know that this money will never get paid.....it's just a statement.

AthleticTrainer1981 said,
Piracy is wrong.

No. Piracy is against the law. Piracy itself is not inherently wrong. You see, legality and morality are two different things.

AthleticTrainer1981 said,
They are trying to make a point.

Yes. That point is pretty clear. "We own the content industry; we own culture."

AthleticTrainer1981 said,
Who cares if it isn't actually hurting the artists or if the RIAA is a stupid organization that is run by idiots. The point is that it is piracy run a muck and they are try to stop it.

Just listen to yourself. Putting aside the fact that piracy is running amok because of the greedy domineering attitude of the few over the many, you actually believe it's not hurting the artists yet you still say it's wrong.

AthleticTrainer1981 said,
Plus one of the main reasons why Russia was admitted into the WTO (?) was that they started fighting piracy (namely allofmp3). This is a good first step. I hope they go out of business.

Yes, because we all know that selling your soul is the only way to be accepted and anyone who disagrees must be made into an example.

AthleticTrainer1981 said,
I know that this money will never get paid.....it's just a statement.
It's a pretty blatant statement at that. It says they're *******s, and there's nothing we can do about it.

AthleticTrainer1981 said,
Grow up everyone.

You first. You're naive.

Arcticflare said,

No. Piracy is against the law. Piracy itself is not inherently wrong. You see, legality and morality are two different things.

Yes. That point is pretty clear. "We own the content industry; we own culture."

Just listen to yourself. Putting aside the fact that piracy is running amok because of the greedy domineering attitude of the few over the many, you actually believe it's not hurting the artists yet you still say it's wrong.

Yes, because we all know that selling your soul is the only way to be accepted and anyone who disagrees must be made into an example.

It's a pretty blatant statement at that. It says they're *******s, and there's nothing we can do about it.

You first. You're naive.

Let's see yes they are the content industry, every major label is represented by them. Morally and legally piracy is wrong. IMO it is, don't know what world you live in but can't figure out why you think it is morally ok for someone to pirate music. Russia didn't sell their soul to become part of the WTO, they accepted the fact that a major part of the piracy ring was happening in their country and promised to do something about it in order to be accepted into the governing body.

This thread is a bunch of teenagers who think they can get away with whatever they want. Stealing music/software/movies is wrong.

AthleticTrainer1981 said,
Morally and legally piracy is wrong.

Stealing music/software/movies is wrong.

So you say, but you have absolutely nothing solid to back it up (that's a challenge to you). I'm left to assume that you're doing something called "parroting", as opposed to thinking for yourself.

AthleticTrainer1981 said,
IMO it is, don't know what world you live in but can't figure out why you think it is morally ok for someone to pirate music.

Just because you can't comprehend a thing doesn't invalidate it. It sounds to me like you think the only possible motivations and/or results for something like piracy are negative. It's an absolute and uncompromisingly narrow view. Such things are dangerous because they don't allow any room for new understanding, and can therefore serve to trample anything not befitting the popular mold.

AthleticTrainer1981 said,
Russia didn't sell their soul to become part of the WTO, they accepted the fact that a major part of the piracy ring was happening in their country and promised to do something about it in order to be accepted into the governing body.

Even though you say it, you don't acknowledge it: They were hedge-pinned and leveraged.

This is a basic fact in your statement, yet you paint it as if it were a good thing. Where's your justification? It will likely take on the form of another opinion. Where's the substance? You're not backing up anything you say. Do you not see how irrational this appears?

AthleticTrainer1981 said,
This thread is a bunch of teenagers who think they can get away with whatever they want.

Please... negatively labeling people you disagree with does not help your case with me.

AthleticTrainer1981 said,
Let's see yes they are the content industry, every major label is represented by them.

At least we agree on one thing. Except you don't seem to think it's a problem to have a virtual monopoly, nor do you think it's right to defy it's domineering strategies. You would have us simply roll over and accept it.

AthleticTrainer1981 said,
Morally and legally piracy is wrong. IMO it is, don't know what world you live in but can't figure out why you think it is morally ok for someone to pirate music.

OK, let's suppose, just for the sake of argument, that the RIAA is in fact a domineering, monopolistic organization that oppresses the artists it represents. The situation, thus, would be that the RIAA is itself committing an immoral act. Acts of piracy against the RIAA, however illegal, would therefore be morally justified if they are made in direct retaliation to the immorality that the RIAA has already exhibited. This logic would make piracy moral in those cicrumstances.

The thing is, a great majority of the people on the internet—and indeed, on Neowin—wholeheartedly believe that the RIAA really is a domineering, monopolistic, oppressive organization. What Arcticflare is saying, I believe, is that piracy is moral not in its pure sense of simple theft, but in its practical usage as a method of "fighting fire with fire."

Eclipse™ said,
OK, let's suppose, just for the sake of argument, that the RIAA is in fact a domineering, monopolistic organization that oppresses the artists it represents. The situation, thus, would be that the RIAA is itself committing an immoral act. Acts of piracy against the RIAA, however illegal, would therefore be morally justified if they are made in direct retaliation to the immorality that the RIAA has already exhibited. This logic would make piracy moral in those cicrumstances.
Firstly two wrongs don't make a right. Secondly it's not just the RIAA you are stealing from. It's the artist, producers, publishers, hands at the record studio ect and all the little people that require cd sales in some form to make a living. Theres also those people working at record stores or running the legit online sites that won't see sales due to the track being pirated. I agree as much as the next person that the RIAA are on level with a virus but that doesn't then make Piracy morally right in any way shape or form. Piracy is stealing and I don't see how that is justified, especially when in the end of the day what your stealing isnt something you need anyway just a luxury item that you could do without.

The RIAA are scum but I think anyone that uses them as their excuse for piracy is seriously kidding themselves and just trying to justify what obviously is wrong.

I can't say I disagree with that, Smigit. As far as agressive rants go, that was a pretty decent one. The RIAA is merely a symptom of a larger problem anyways.

Fair Use vs Unregulated Use, which is free culture... there's a good lecture about it here: http://randomfoo.net/oscon/2002/lessig/free.html (Edit: LONG-assed load time with no progress bar)

I'd like to hear your thoughts on it.

Smigit said,
Firstly two wrongs don't make a right. Secondly it's not just the RIAA you are stealing from. It's the artist, producers, publishers, hands at the record studio ect and all the little people that require cd sales in some form to make a living. Theres also those people working at record stores or running the legit online sites that won't see sales due to the track being pirated. I agree as much as the next person that the RIAA are on level with a virus but that doesn't then make Piracy morally right in any way shape or form. Piracy is stealing and I don't see how that is justified, especially when in the end of the day what your stealing isnt something you need anyway just a luxury item that you could do without.

The RIAA are scum but I think anyone that uses them as their excuse for piracy is seriously kidding themselves and just trying to justify what obviously is wrong.


I suppose that it would be more morally "right" to retaliate in such a way that only the RIAA would be affected, which is, of course, not practically possible, at least as far as piracy is concerned. I have to agree that harming the artists does make piracy immoral in that regard, and it does make my last post a little more evil-sounding than I intended.

How'd this post get all the way up here? I made it AFTER Eclipse™ made his 2nd one in this section right after Smigit and myself.

Weird

Eclipse™ said,
I suppose that it would be more morally "right" to retaliate in such a way that only the RIAA would be affected, which is, of course, not practically possible, at least as far as piracy is concerned. I have to agree that harming the artists does make piracy immoral in that regard, and it does make my last post a little more evil-sounding than I intended.

Sure you can, Eclipse™. It's not very easy, but you can do it. Here's an example:

Joe Schmoe pirates Metalica CD. Joe Schmoe likes it, and so he sends a check DIRECTLY TO METALLICA. I realize it is a poor and impractical example, but at least it makes the point that such things are possible.

That aside, you should listen to that lecture I linked. I think you'll find it illuminating. I did.

Morally and legally piracy is wrong.

Morals are NOT universal or absolute.

IMO, creating any artificial barrier to access and affordability is morally wrong, wether it's copyright/patent-based monopolies or price-fixing. It tends to lead to class divisions and associated social strife, and limits the ability for society to advance quickly by slowing the development of 'critical mass' of new arts and technologies.

So copyright and "ensuring the artists get paid" is actually more morally wrong than unauthorised distribution.

Ha ha are they having a laugh, I take they are going to pay it back in installments of $1 a week that would be ironic. I think this is just scare tactics. The US government probably don't even spend that on their military a year.

Sawyer12 said,
Ha ha are they having a laugh, I take they are going to pay it back in installments of $1 a week that would be ironic. I think this is just scare tactics. The US government probably don't even spend that on their military a year.

Actually, you're only sort of right. For the 2007 fiscal year, Dept. of Defense budget is $449 billion (that's 30% of the total federal budget). However, when you add in Veterans’ Benefits ($76 billion), Interest On National Debt Due To Past Military Spending ($353 billion) and the budgeted Iraq and Afghanistan spending, it's probably over a Trillion.

http://www.warresisters.org/piechart.htm

*oddly enough the Army Corps of Engineers budget is not counted with the rest of the Dept. Of Defense budget by the GAO, even though the Army Corps of Engineers is just a arm of the US Military.

The military has unknown amounts of money in black-op projects that have been going on for like 50 or more years.

Who knows how much is spent a year by them

Hmm, here be a list of 2000 most profitable companies The Forbes 2000
ExxonMobil of USA has 36.13 billion worth of profit and 208.34 billion in assets. Suing Media Services for 1.6 trills doesnt make a lick of sense.

If this is true - I doubt its anything more than a publicity move - they stand no chance of actually succeeding in getting 1.6 trillion. Rather its good to get a big headline to further scare all the piraters out there. The fact that they may only get several million will still be touted as a major victory - win win for RIAA really.

funny riaa suing a company in rusia, kinda out of its place.

I wonder what riaa can do in this cases... Maybe complain to WTO

Guys, this is The Inq, I'd like to see this re-reported from a more reliable source first before I believe this. Because, right now, this sound way too absurd to be true.

Just yet more proof again of who the true thief really is... the RIAA/MPAA.

Not only are they thieves, they are thugs. Literally.

excalpius said,
Isn't this story like two weeks old? Way to keep on top of tech news, Neowin. ;)

I'm getting sick and tired of this juvenile "OMGZ, it's a 2 week oldz newz!" complaints. To me, it shows very little intellegence and maturity on your part.

A lot of people may have not heard of this news, just because you heard it already doesn't mean it's old for others.

You're just a 2 year old troll, my advice to you is to say off the internet until you reach a reasonable mature and intellegent age, even it means at the age of 65, so be it.

yizuman said,
I'm getting sick and tired of this juvenile "OMGZ, it's a 2 week oldz newz!" complaints. To me, it shows very little intellegence and maturity on your part.

A lot of people may have not heard of this news, just because you heard it already doesn't mean it's old for others.

You're just a 2 year old troll, my advice to you is to say off the internet until you reach a reasonable mature and intellegent age, even it means at the age of 65, so be it.


And calling someone a "2 year old troll" is your definition of intelligence and maturity huh?

Agreed, TLCN.

And I am only pointing this out here because it has been all over DIGG (multiple front page articles) and every major technology and gaming site for the past two weeks. If I had only seen it once on say Guru3d.com (awesome site), I wouldn't have said anything. Fair enough?

Regardless, if it is news to you, great!

PS If you want to quote me, go ahead, but in the future you might be better received if you didn't cross translate someone's adult post into juvenile leet speak, and then complain that your own quoted version is, um, juvenile.

What a load of crap, the problem is they keep repeating themselves over and over again, some people must believe what they're telling, that they really *are* losing money ... Which is a bunch of crap, if I wouldn't download songs, I wouldn't buy them... Like when I was an 8-year old kid, or like my parents back in the days, I would probably "tape" them from the radio or something cheap :P

RIAA is the biggest thief of them all. They have consistanty raped the artists for years. Thye are bigger crooks than most politicians.

ozyborn said,
Thye are bigger crooks than most politicians.

And the sad part? Despite the fact that's really saying something, it's true...

In other news today.... :P the RIAA is suing Russia.

I wonder if this will bring back the Cold War in the form of the Internet? Who can sue and monitor the other quicker?

i got served a summons for listening to my radio in a public place.


then my neighbor got served for playing his music loud.
in both cases the RIAA are claiming public broadcast in violation of copyright.


XD

Listening to a radio in a public place is allowed as the radio station own the licence to publicly broadcast the music.

I know you were being sarcastic, but I though I might just point this out to you.

Thing is, is that they've always used that philosophy of $150,000 per song. I can see their logic, but damn... :|

An even bigger issue is the news source!

RIAA is absolutely crazy.

I don't understand why they did not sue allofmp3 for 1.6 quadrillion or even quintillion?
Even 1.6 trillion is 40 times bigger than annual revenue of Microsoft!

In fact RIAA will never get even $1.6 from allofmp3!

Once again RIAA is showing their greedy ugly head.

Not one single Artist benefits from the payouts that the RIAA receives from each and every one of the lawsuits that they create. RIAA keeps all of the profits to themselves. (they claim to protect the Artists)

I must reiterate that we must continue to boycott RIAA by not buying one single CD. As long as we discontinue to buy CDs, the Artist themselves will take notice.

Happy 2007 everyone!

Well, in a roundabout way, the artists do benefit. If the RIAA successfully stopped a majority of pirating (not likely but I am just saying *if*) then most people would have no choice but to buy their music. And when they buy their music, the artists make money.

It's too bad because the RIAA's mission is one that really needs to be addressed. But they're doing it all wrong.

the artist do make money but it's a small percentage, right? ... cause i heard the artist make most of there money touring etc if thats true then the hell with the RIAA.

when i buy a cd i would want majority of the money to goto the artist and NOT the greedy record lables.

---------------

besides there aint much music worth buying nowadays anyways... theres some but not much and the stuff i do like i just W***z it anyways ... screw the RIAA they aint worth a damn, it's obvious from the many many news reports that there just trying to line there own pockets and they really dont give a damn about the artists.... they just use the "where trying to protect the artists" crap to make it look good for the public etc.... when in reality there bottom line is "let line out pockets and sue everyone for there life savings".

C_Guy said,
Well, in a roundabout way, the artists do benefit. If the RIAA successfully stopped a majority of pirating (not likely but I am just saying *if*) then most people would have no choice but to buy their music. And when they buy their music, the artists make money.

It's too bad because the RIAA's mission is one that really needs to be addressed. But they're doing it all wrong.

How do they benefit? Say if RIAA sues for an entire album of Boston's first album which contains 8 songs at a lawsuit of $150,000 each. That's a total of $1,200,000.00!

So how much of that ends up in the hands of the Boston group?

So you say that artists do benefit, may I please ask by what source that says that they do and by how much?

In retrospects, artists make very little income on albums alone, but the majority of the money that they make is from tours, i.e. ticket sales and table sales (such as t-shirts, albums, etc.).

Do please pray tell what exactly RIAA should be doing rather than committing themselves to lawsuits?

yizuman said,
So you say that artists do benefit, may I please ask by what source that says that they do and by how much?

The point he was making, which you seem to have missed, is not that artists benefit directly from the lawsuits... they dont. What they benefit from is an increased level of fear from the public who think twice about piracy and are much more likely to purchase the music in future.

Smells like a scare tactic to me. "Hey if we sue these guys for a retarded amount of money, get a lot of press and have millions of people hear about it... Maybe they will stop paying 10 cents a song and go to the iTunes store".

I think a scare tactic is fine and all, but when you drop a number like 1.6 trillion you just make people laugh.

SwankyPimp said,
Smells like a scare tactic to me. "Hey if we sue these guys for a retarded amount of money, get a lot of press and have millions of people hear about it... Maybe they will stop paying 10 cents a song and go to the iTunes store".

I think a scare tactic is fine and all, but when you drop a number like 1.6 trillion you just make people laugh.

No doubt this is nothing more than a scare tactic, but I'm still curious to see how this will backfire on them. This seriously needs to hit mainstream news (and not just geek sites), if only to expose the RIAA to Joe SixPack for what it really is.

_dandy_ said,
No doubt this is nothing more than a scare tactic, but I'm still curious to see how this will backfire on them. This seriously needs to hit mainstream news (and not just geek sites), if only to expose the RIAA to Joe SixPack for what it really is.

Except for it would be nicely paraphrased into something like this:
RIAA: This evil Russian communist corporation is stealing YOUR, Joe SixPack's money! YOU have the right to stand up for your American values and taxes! God bless America and our fight against the evil communist *******!
Joe SixPack: Hell yeah! Where do I sugn up? And gimme some more of that 'Milwaukee's best'!

wicker_man said,

Except for it would be nicely paraphrased into something like this:
RIAA: This evil Russian communist corporation is stealing YOUR, Joe SixPack's money! YOU have the right to stand up for your American values and taxes! God bless America and our fight against the evil communist *******!
Joe SixPack: Hell yeah! Where do I sugn up? And gimme some more of that 'Milwaukee's best'!

Y'know, you're probably right. I always forget that Joe SixPack takes any media spin at face value.

Pulls out wallet...Yeah, I'm gonna need to go ahead and setup a payment plan over the next trillion years, m'kay?

So-Unreal said,
why did i even click this link?

I dunno... why did you even post if you have nothing to say?

BTW someone has to stop RIAA... it is getting stupid now...

mwahahahahaha! Just when I thought the RIAA couldnot get any stupider!!! 1.6 trillion LOL! These people are out of control!

they're mad! they're mad. they're madder than Mad Jack McMad, the winner of this year's Mr Madman competition.

"Hey you...mr. russian come over to NY so we can Sue you...yes get on you boat and come over here...now!"


Id love to see the RIAA goto russia to sue them...i bet the RIAA would "disappear"

Id love to see the RIAA goto russia to sue them...i bet the RIAA would "disappear"
LOl.. is that "pollonium" you're reffering to...

Netrack said,
Id love to see the RIAA goto russia to sue them...i bet the RIAA would "disappear"

If only we could be that lucky!

What a way for the RIAA to start the new year off, reminding the world how pathetic they are. Now we just need them to ask the artist(s) to take a lesser cut again...

Well actually according to en.wikipedia.org it is $1.576 trillion - so the RIAA are suing the whole of Russia's gross domestic product.

One hundred billion dollars! LOL. 1.6 trillion - ok, let's presume they win. AllofMP3 is not Microsoft where whe hell they're gonna get that much money? I want some of the crack they're smoking.

I'd be thinking can Russia afford to lose allofmp3 as a business? I'm sure Russia has it's on financial problems, so probably relies on mediaservices and others to make some money. Worst case scenerio.... RIAA creates cold war part 2.

adversedeviant said,
of course they're gonna sue in American courts cause if it was in Russia they'd be like wtf are you stupid and throw this **** out.

Who exactly are they going to sue in the USA? Does AllOfMP3 actually have any offices or staff in America?

RIAA: We would like to sue AllOfMP3 for $1.6 Trillion.. can we please?
US Courts: Hahahaha... good luck.

"1.6 TRILLION DOLLARS!!"

Who the hell's running the RIAA now? Dr Evil?

We need Austin Powers to crush the RIAA.

Oh, behave...

kravex said,
"1.6 TRILLION DOLLARS!!"

Who the hell's running the RIAA now? Dr Evil?

We need Austin Powers to crush the RIAA.

Oh, behave...

LOL :P

surely if allofmp3.com don't turn up to court then the new york court has absolutely no power over them anyway? the RIAA would lose the case in russia even if they had the best lawyers, and they can only get away with suing for $1,600,000,000,000 in the US...

if $1.6 trillion is true then has allofmp3 been stealing off the RIAA for over 500 years? to quote the RIAA themselves:

Each year, the industry loses about $4.2 billion to piracy worldwide -- "we estimate we lose millions of dollars a day to all forms of piracy."

http://www.riaa.com/issues/piracy/default.asp

The stupid thing about the RIAA is they like to make things up and force everyone else to believe them. There have been studies of piracy in other countries (the big one I'm referring to was in Canada), that have actually shown piracy isn't hurting the industry as much as the RIAA would like us to believe.

When it comes down to it, they're an organization who just wants more money by any means necessary.

Lexcyn said,
The stupid thing about the RIAA is they like to make things up and force everyone else to believe them.

This is called truthiness. By definition, it doesn't have to have any basis in fact; just saying it is so makes it so.

All I can think is "what a bunch of idiots" in reference to the RIAA, this is overkill, if there ever was overkill. I'm all for them representing the artists, I just don't think thats what this is all about so it's difficult to get behind them.

yep thats a $trillion more than what Bush is asking to help extend funding of the Iraq war. My with that money one could bring Africa out of the stone age. Alas it's a frivolous lawsuit and I doubt they ever intended to see any of whatever money they are looking for. Besides.... the ROM's has the royalties, but the RIAA has refused to collect it. They set themselves up.

RIAA's odds of a success seem very low. Russia is behind AllofMP3.com from what I see and how are they going to be able to sue them if thats the case?

And this is going to blow up in their face when they realise how little they are capable of doing. Lot of press I'm guessing.