Rumor: 4th generation iPhone details emerge

It's being reported by AppleInsider that the Korea Times has heard some juicy information from KT, the exclusive carrier of the iPhone in South Korea, about Apple's upcoming, fourth generation iPhone. They are claiming that the phone's specs will include the following...

  • OLED screen
  • Front-facing camera for video chat
  • Dual-core processor
  • More powerful graphics capabilities
  • Removable battery (stated to be "highly likely")

In addition to this, AppleInsider suspects the processor to be the Cortex-A9 from ARM. This processor can handle clock speeds up to 2GHz, which is unheard of in a smartphone. However, Apple would most likely underclock it to keep power consumption at a minimum. They are also reporting that Apple has purchased a large amount of LED camera flash components. One could deduce from this that the next iPhone will likely have a flash for taking pictures.

The Korea Times also states that KT plans to sell the new iPhone to corporate clients for a "litmus test" this April. Others are said to receive the phone in June. A "high ranking KT executive" claims that this will happen because both they, and Apple, want the advanced models to be introduced "as early as possible."

If all of this is true, Apple may completely re-define Google's new "superphone" classification. It's also possible that the new iPhone will be available for Verizon as a CDMA device. This would certainly explain the inclusion of video chat capabilities. As it currently stands, AT&T doesn't seem to be in a position to take on such an excess amount of video traffic. Hopefully, all of our questions will be answered at Apple's January 26th event.

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And suddenly, Apple realizes that 3G is videocall capable and decide to add a front camera... Wait, why are they mentioning the CDMA network for this feature, when UMTS can deal with it with no issues!? Anyway, I'll finally start thinking about buying one of those things since I have *unlimited* videocalls. About time, Apple...

make it at least a PHONE.

improve the voice quality and the speaker quality. and don't hang it when you type the numbers.

but i doubt it, because apple don't sell it as a phone for making calls.

Am I the only one who isn't sure he wants an OLED screen? The improved picture quality sounds great - if you're inside. A lot of my phone use happens while outside, or at least in a very well lit room, and my understanding is that OLED hasn't developed to the point of being practical in those situations. Improved screen quality at a cost.

This rumour specs is not enough to tempt me for the new iphone. Am defo going for an android phone or windows 7 mobile phone, and getting rid of my old 3gs.

I can't wait to hear what the Apple fanatics have to say when Apple finally does go OLED. That was one of their main sticking points against the Zune HD.

ddjay said,
I can't wait to hear what the Apple fanatics have to say when Apple finally does go OLED. That was one of their main sticking points against the Zune HD.

They'll praise apple for inventing the OLED screen, front facing camera, dual core processor (thereby shunning companies such as Intel and AMD for stealing Apple's ideas) as well as probably bash on microsoft for something un-related....


oh...btw, can it play crysis?

SirEvan said,
oh...btw, can it play crysis?

Are you kidding me? With a 2 GHz Apple-blessed dualcore it could run Crysis AND Crysis 2 simultaneously!

I think the phone is fine as it is, I would personally buy one if it had sound profiles that did not make the alarm silent when the ringing volume is, the option for normal SMS format, and multitasking without the need for an extra application.

With its new processor I don't think any of that would be difficult at all and it would be a total winner with a 5mp camera that has the quality its 3.xMP one has right now compared to others camera phones with the same MP.

The iPhone 3GS has a 600mhz processor, devices like the HTC HD2 and Nexus already have the 1ghz snapdragon processor.

The iPhone 3GS is an older phone, devices like the HTC HD2 and Nexus are months newer.

Technology changes, mate. In a few months, the newer iPhone may be the fastest, and then the next WinMo may be faster, and then an Android phone will be faster....etc.

OLED Screen - The 3Gs was meant to have this. So maybe their going to give it to us now. Higher Res is required too I guess.

Processor upgrade - Isn't the 3GS currently the fastest phone on the market or at least the same speed as the Google phone? I did read an article comparing them recently. I'm guessing this is to match the graphics upgrade so we can run better games on it.

Removable battery has to be questioned, as I don't see why after 3yrs they'd just decide to make it removable.
Graphics upgrade - Better gaming performance since that is one of the aims of the phone now along with the touch too.

I see front facing camera has been mentioned along with the LED flash, but no sign of the camera upgrade. Which has already been rumoured to be 5mp.

It is nice to hear rumours on the iPhone. :-) I just hate waiting to see which are true and which aren't.

I wish to have a hack so I can overclock my iPod and force it to load MPC HC or VLC Player - so I can finally have any type of videos in my iPod.

Ahh. For God Sake, bring a Flash app!!! I don't care about battery, there are sometimes that I just wish to have flash in my ipod.

Who cares...love my Android and will continue to support them. Besides, android is close to already releasing a phone with a front facing camera (if they havent already)...so Apple is once again late to the party...

the current iphone has no problems multitasking and if you jailbreak it (which you should if you own one) you can control which apps to run in background and even get palm pre style switching. It's time to let us multitask without jailbreak, apple.

ev0| said,
the current iphone has no problems multitasking and if you jailbreak it (which you should if you own one) you can control which apps to run in background and even get palm pre style switching. It's time to let us multitask without jailbreak, apple.

Dont you realize Apple doesnt give you what you want?

techbeck said,
Dont you realize Apple doesnt give you what you want?

"Dont you realize Apple doesnt give you everything you want?" You mean...

Faster processor is a given. OLED is about damn time. For a phone whose focus is the screen it is ridiculous not to have this yet. Multitasking--would certainly hope so.

I would guess that a good incremental update to bring it up to par with more groundbreaking features would be AMOLED of at least double the current res, multitask capability, and the requisite speed improvements for doing those things.

"It's also possible that the new iPhone will be available for Verizon as a CDMA device. This would certainly explain the inclusion of video chat capabilities. As it currently stands, AT&T doesn't seem to be in a position to take on such an excess amount of video traffic."

Who comes up with these analyses? This is wrong in so many ways...

Yeh because At&t's network can really handle more data....dream on.

At the moment verizon cant handle data and voice at the same time, but with LTE which is being rolled out this year, it mostly will and at speeds faster than at&t can provide.

I find all those "features" highly unlikely... OLED was rumored once before.. dual core on a non-multitasking platform is kind of eh.. removable battery, ha Apple? comon they make money on having it integrated... why would they want to have it removable?

Wasn't OLED rumored to be part of the 3GS? It was a huge disappointment for me last year, hopefully it will in fact have it in this upcoming model :).

The iPhone does multitask, you just cannot leave an application running in the background while working with another one. Two completely different things.

"you just cannot leave an application running in the background while working with another one"

that to me sounds like it doesnt multitask

profets said,
"you just cannot leave an application running in the background while working with another one"

that to me sounds like it doesnt multitask

Technically it does multi task. Just doesn't multi task for 3rd party apps.
They just need to open it up so it can run apps in the background.

As for the extra stuff they providing I hope they provide a strong,longer lasting battery in this model

ilev said,
There is a multitasking app for the iphone.

For the jailbroken iPhone....which isn't an iPhone at all. Apple specifically designed the iPhone so that it couldn't multitask with apps.

With a dual core processor, they might be willing to do "multitasking". Having used the jailbreak app for running third party apps in the background, the phone can't currently handle it while maintaining an absolutely fluent experience.

profets said,
"you just cannot leave an application running in the background while working with another one"

that to me sounds like it doesnt multitask

Same here...

lest54 said,
The iPhone does multitask, you just cannot leave an application running in the background while working with another one. Two completely different things.

Lol, you're funny

cant wait for this to be true.. the only thing that sucks would be it getting on Verizon!...... Apple should take up the Google route and start selling the phone unlocked, or offer it up on multiple carriers

Verizon's a good carrier. Who would you want to have it? The Verizon network is much better prepared to handle the bandwidth than AT&T...

As much as I think the iPhone is hugely overpriced, the removable battery is the least of its issues, most people never remove phone batteries and usually throw phones away before they replace the battery.

lt8480 said,
As much as I think the iPhone is hugely overpriced, the removable battery is the least of its issues, most people never remove phone batteries and usually throw phones away before they replace the battery.

Actually thnx to us Europeans who complain about everything thus end up getting nothing or much later they will probably do this. It's the law over here to be able to easily exchange the battery. Right now they get away with their exchange service but this won't last.

Zwinky said,
Actually thnx to us Europeans who complain about everything thus end up getting nothing or much later they will probably do this. It's the law over here to be able to easily exchange the battery. Right now they get away with their exchange service but this won't last.

Zwinky said,
Actually thnx to us Europeans who complain about everything thus end up getting nothing or much later they will probably do this. It's the law over here to be able to easily exchange the battery. Right now they get away with their exchange service but this won't last.

Wow, apparently you folks do "complain about everything"... LOL I mean for there to be a law... Wow.

i'd rather have a better cpu and gpu than a camera which only increases thickness (unless you want the cereal box toy camera of the nano), a better set of speakers and mic are more useful for the iPod touch...sound like I want a psp

Meconio said,
i'd rather have a better cpu and gpu than a camera which only increases thickness (unless you want the cereal box toy camera of the nano), a better set of speakers and mic are more useful for the iPod touch...sound like I want a psp :D

Considering it will be primarily for video conferencing type applications, I don't see why the video camera with the nano wouldn't work just fine. It has a 640x480 resolution. In fact, I think that my nano shoots better video than my iPhone 3GS. The iPhone 3GS has this weird shakey video effect like the frame rate is lagging or something. The Nano's video is crisp and smooth with better color.

Meconio said,
i'd rather have a better cpu and gpu than a camera which only increases thickness (unless you want the cereal box toy camera of the nano), a better set of speakers and mic are more useful for the iPod touch...sound like I want a psp

My security camera is very tiny. It's hidden somewhere that my family or friends can not find it. Looks great on my TV.

Shadrack said,
Considering it will be primarily for video conferencing type applications, I don't see why the video camera with the nano wouldn't work just fine. It has a 640x480 resolution. In fact, I think that my nano shoots better video than my iPhone 3GS. The iPhone 3GS has this weird shakey video effect like the frame rate is lagging or something. The Nano's video is crisp and smooth with better color.

What Shad said. I am interested in it for video conferencing. If they have added them to the iphone or ipod, then I will leave my laptop home because it's heavy to carry around for business if Apple improve the video camera or frame rate. If not, I will use laptop until I find something better and lighter device.


shozilla said,
My security camera is very tiny. It's hidden somewhere that my family or friends can not find it. Looks great on my TV.

Sounds like you have an interesting hobby... LOL

I seriously doubt Apple will have a removable battery. I don't think any Apple products have removable batteries right now.

Shadrack said,
I seriously doubt Apple will have a removable battery. I don't think any Apple products have removable batteries right now.

Yeah, they stopped doing the removable thing even on their Laptops. Those *use* to have removable batteries, but they recently switched to internally installed.

Which is really sad, because for a lot of people this is a deal breaker.

Not for me, however. Even for devices that had the option, I don't think I've ever purchased a spare battery for anything.

Xenomorph said,
Yeah, they stopped doing the removable thing even on their Laptops. Those *use* to have removable batteries, but they recently switched to internally installed.

Are you sure? My 2009 Unibody MacBook Pro has a removable battery :-S

CaptainSlow said,
Are you sure? My 2009 Unibody MacBook Pro has a removable battery :-S

The one that came out in february right? The models that came out in fall do not.

Xenomorph said,
Yeah, they stopped doing the removable thing even on their Laptops. Those *use* to have removable batteries, but they recently switched to internally installed.

Wow, that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I thought Apple had at least some sense. At least they can make good looking products, otherwise they would be down the drain.

The MBP battery gets 5+ hours of life. Idk, even when my laptops only held a 2 hour (3 hour max) charge, I didn't need a spare battery. Apple isn't appealing to survivalist, apparently.

So I guess for me, personally, I actually prefer how the battery is integrated and that the whole body of the computer is solid. I can see how other people wouldn't like this, and for them Apple has a lot of competition, for sure (Y).

At least they can make good looking products, otherwise they would be down the drain.

You do have a point there. Apple is the only one who can pull off the internal battery only on a laptop because they have defined what is a good looking computer (as a matter of popular opinion, not necessarily mine). If DELL or HP decided to not have interchangeable batteries on any of their laptop lines, it would probably not sell very well.

I predict that they will probably make the non-Pro Macbook internal battery only, and have a changeable battery (at least as an option) for their MBP.

Shadrack said,
The MBP battery gets 5+ hours of life. Idk, even when my laptops only held a 2 hour (3 hour max) charge, I didn't need a spare battery. Apple isn't appealing to survivalist, apparently.

So I guess for me, personally, I actually prefer how the battery is integrated and that the whole body of the computer is solid. I can see how other people wouldn't like this, and for them Apple has a lot of competition, for sure (Y).

It will keep me away mainly because of how it kills the lifetime of the machine. Apple doesn't make batteries and by making it internal they haven't pulled off some magic in Lithium Ion technology.

The battery will still die after a couple of years of use unless properly cared for (80+% of users don't properly care for their batteries). Meaning you'll be forced to have to resort to generic eBay batteries and a self install (very risky) or buy a whole new laptop.

I'd prefer to consider my device obsolete when I decide it is. Not when Apple does based on battery life...

Xenomorph said,
Yeah, they stopped doing the removable thing even on their Laptops. Those *use* to have removable batteries, but they recently switched to internally installed.

Which is stupid. I will NEVER buy a laptop that I can't swap the battery out on easily... A phone is bad enough, but a laptop like that is bizarre to me.

Frazell Thomas said,
It will keep me away mainly because of how it kills the lifetime of the machine. Apple doesn't make batteries and by making it internal they haven't pulled off some magic in Lithium Ion technology.

The battery will still die after a couple of years of use unless properly cared for (80+% of users don't properly care for their batteries). Meaning you'll be forced to have to resort to generic eBay batteries and a self install (very risky) or buy a whole new laptop.

I'd prefer to consider my device obsolete when I decide it is. Not when Apple does based on battery life...

+1

Excellent. If true, ooking forward to the OLED screen and A9. BTW, they could restrict video chatting over wifi based on carrier preferences. Anandtech had a good article detailing A9 and it sounds like it will be a big hit with "superphones" as it were.

Needs a bigger higher resolution screen to, put the home button on the side near the bottom and make the screen go as far to the edges as possible and ill think about upgrading

I doubt they may put a higher res screen because all the apps are tied down to the current res. It can make or break the iPhone re if such happened.

Apps *should* be designed to scale to higher resolutions, however some will have problems because the developers opted for bitmaps rather than vectors; essentially, while the app scales, they'll be blurry.

Simon said,
Apps *should* be designed to scale to higher resolutions, however some will have problems because the developers opted for bitmaps rather than vectors; essentially, while the app scales, they'll be blurry.

Hard to convince the iPhone development crowd to think about alternative designs when Apple has stuck to the same basic stuff for 3 versions...

Well nothing like breaking the apps to get them to start developing them properly.

I think a resolution bump is due tbh, along with possibly a slightly larger screen.