Rumor: Apple testing Siri on iPhone 4 and other devices

JailbreakNation reports that a source close to Apple has tipped them off to news that Apple is testing Siri, the popular voice assistant receiving much media attention lately, on the iPhone 4. They claim that their source said Apple employees have been given access to a special software version that has Siri enabled on older devices - perhaps the iPad 2 and iPod Touch?

This news might not be very surprising considering that Siri has already been ported unofficially to the iPod Touch and iPhone 4, though it is still not widely available to the jailbreak community as of now. The major hurdle with enabling Siri unofficially is that all of the voice queries are sent through Apple's servers, which could easily reject any data sent from the wrong device. With an official release from Apple, a jailbreak workaround would obviously become unnecessary.

Siri has been a major focus of Apple's marketing for the new iPhone 4S model, so the company has incentive to keep it exclusive to their latest model. And their track record for enabling new features on older models is not good - MMS was never officially supported on the original iPhone and video recording, multi-tasking and Voice Over (the feature that Siri replaced) never came to the iPhone 3G. I tried to recall a case in which Apple subverted this trend, but drew a blank. Am I forgetting something obvious?

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Hey Apple, why don't you fix Siri on the product marketed around it, you know... the iPhone 4S. kthnx.

Love,
iPhone 4S customer.

Xeon said,
Hey Apple, why don't you fix Siri on the product marketed around it, you know... the iPhone 4S. kthnx.

Love,
iPhone 4S customer.


Hey Xeon,

why do you think that testing on older devices would interfere the Siri Server development.
Clearly two different teams and by the way: legacy-porting doesn't involve too much hassle it seems, so all is dandy for your 4S Siri development.
kthxbye

Love,
iPhone 4 customer.

Hey both of you,

I don't have anything to add to the conversation, but you guys can laugh at my signature for a minute or two.

Love,
iPhone 3GS customer.

PyX said,
Hey both of you,

I don't have anything to add to the conversation, but you guys can laugh at my signature for a minute or two.

Love,
iPhone 3GS customer.

Haha!
Adore it.

GS:win

Mind you guys: Siri is still in Beta and the full blast might be a non-exclusive - meaning older devices maybe will get their support.

Apple might want to see how Siri scales and also make the beta exclusive much like how pre-ordering a game sometimes gets you beta access.

Latest buy get sneak preview model maybe?

Seeing how Apple still has a lot of advantages on their flagship, the 4s (higher capacities, full-world phone, faster graphics and processor, way advanced camera, ...) giving up this exclusivity might pay off, especially as proof has been shown, that Siri doesn't technically need the 4s.

It's hard to estimate what will come out of this rumor, but to myself and all other non 4s-users I wish Siri to get a stage appearance on our devices, too.

GS:mac

Brian Miller said,
A Mac version would be great.

This.

They can't be serious advancing voice software for the iPhone so much and leaving the up to 2k bucks spending iMac costumers in the dust.

Voice Over is quite good for what it is, but really, broaden out that tech.
It's gold!

GS:mac

In fact, Lion's new speech voice was the one that has been pushed to Siri later.

But of course, you can't ask anything to it, except if we have some basic speech commands in OS X, which I think we do … ?

PyX said,
In fact, Lion's new speech voice was the one that has been pushed to Siri later.

But of course, you can't ask anything to it, except if we have some basic speech commands in OS X, which I think we do … ?


I'm not talking about commands, about voices, ...

I'm talking about the advantages of Siri over Voice Over and the general approaches.
Surely you have notices them, don't you? (serious question...)

GS:mac

Yes, I know Siri has nothing to do with the old Vocal Commands Center, and I agree it should be implemented in OS X completely.

I was just pointing out that the only parts we have right now are the same voices from Siri, as well as basic vocal commands. I believe the brand new Samantha voice in Lion is Siri's voice. But then again, I haven't listened to it much in English.

In addition to iPhone 4, Siri has been already ported "unofficially" to 3GS (still some work to be done according to the developer).

doh said,
In addition to iPhone 4, Siri has been already ported "unofficially" to 3GS (still some work to be done according to the developer).

No, no more work at all. However, the developer has stated that releasing it any way would require piracy and as such he wont.

qdave said,
i doubt that it will come to iphone 4...since it is one of the big selling points for iphone 4s.

Indeed, I'm sure there were plenty of people who upgraded from the iPhone 4 to the iPhone 4S just for Siri, and they aren't going to be happy if Apple does this.

qdave said,
i doubt that it will come to iphone 4...since it is one of the big selling points for iphone 4s.

I bet it will come out to the iPhone 4 and the iPad 2. Seriously Siri doesn't need dual-core to run.

Microsoft should have released the beta version of tellme advertized eariler in the year. It could have been the "killer app" needed to push the platform forward. Now, yet again, Microsoft is playing catch up.

Cboy said,
It was available in the Mango Beta. I used to use it before I got the 4S

Wow! Really? How was it? Did it work? Was it better than Siri?

They're both pretty average when it comes to speech recognition (although i havent used my wp7 phone for months) due to my Australian accent. Siri allows me to ask it questions whereas tellme needed commands. I think siri could be better if it could understand my voice.
eg: Me: "Set my timer for 20 minutes"
Siri: "Set my time of the 20 minutes" and then prompts me to pick a meeting to modify.
Another bug is that after using siri the phone sets my ringer volume to maximum regardless of its setting before i opened siri.

Funnily enough i prefer voice control on my 3GS a lot better as it has a much higer strike rate.

AWilliams87 said,
Microsoft should have released the beta version of tellme advertized eariler in the year. It could have been the "killer app" needed to push the platform forward. Now, yet again, Microsoft is playing catch up.

AWilliams87 said,
Microsoft should have released the beta version of tellme advertized eariler in the year. It could have been the "killer app" needed to push the platform forward. Now, yet again, Microsoft is playing catch up.

Let's face it, while siri is pretty cool the main reason it was so popular is because it came out on the iphone and was published as one of the main features of the new model. It is clearly more polished and has more features than its competitors alternatives but if similar functionality was announced on any other platform it wouldn't have had the same reception. I wouldn't like to think that consumers are so fickle that they'd completely change platform for such a trivial feature.

Hollow.Droid said,
Let's face it, while siri is pretty cool the main reason it was so popular is because it came out on the iphone and was published as one of the main features of the new model.

Care to explain why Vocal Commands, released in iOS 3 if I'm not mistaken, as a main feature, has never been popular ?

PyX said,

Care to explain why Vocal Commands, released in iOS 3 if I'm not mistaken, as a main feature, has never been popular ?

For the exact reason you quoted. Apple are excellent at marketing and while I do like siri you can't deny how much hype they put onto it. While other manufacturers can get away with a simple redesign and improvement of specs (Never mind the fact that they don't need all Droid X users to get the X2, as an example, due to their vast range of devices), Apple NEED their users to upgrade and for the majority of iPhone users dual core processors mean nothing. Siri however is easily accessible by the masses.

You're forgetting where the original iPod got Windows support, where the original iPods got games, where the original Macbook Pro's got Wireless N support via Leopard, and probably more.