Rumor: Apple TV to feature seamless Siri integration

Very soon Siri will become that little more helpful if a report over at Insideris is to be believed. An anonymous tipster has informed them that the upcoming Apple TV will be able to link with Siri over the iPhone or iPad which means that wherever you are, you can instruct the TV to record shows which then syncs to the iCloud and does the business. The TV will also have access to the Apple App Store.

According to ZDNet the new Apple TV is likely to debut in December and it won't be cheap, analysts predict that it will set you back between $1,500 and $2,000 depending on the size which is rumored to be between 42 and 55-inches. It's worth pointing out that it's still a bargain compared to a Bang & Olufsen which will be offering a 40-inch V1 TV next month for a cool $3,700 notes.

Still, it's not going to be cheap by any means and if we're honest we've come to expect that from Apple. But the question is: Are you going to get one?

Thanks to FoxieFoxie for sending in this tip.

Sources: Insideris | ZDNet | Image credit: Home Theater

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Oh and dont forget the agreement that everything that is said to Siri is sent and retained at Apple and they are allowed to mess with it.

So for this to work, Siri must be on all the time. I like the 360's Kinect because I can not feel all creeped out when it's powered off.

I highly doubt it will have it built directly into the TV though. It will leverage their install base and have an app to use the iPad or the iWhatever to use Siri to remote talk to the TV. Then they'll leverage the schmucks who dont own Apple gear and buy this TV to then go out and buy more of their products to work their TV better.

"I'm halfway to work and I just realized I forgot to set the TV to record my favorite show, bugger."

First World Problems

The actual tv and its features/performance don't matter. It will use the standard Apple formula :-

- be shiny
- have an Apple logo
- have a new buzzword like 'Retina'
- have a series of ads with wildly inflated promises set to hippy music
- be seen as a 'premium' product
- have great integration with the Apple ecosystem
- have some sort of partnership with other companies
- get hype and rave reviews from every single blog/media
- have a range of new accessories

Its all but a guaranteed success and will make them billions. The things about Apple is they won't release a product till they have all the above lined up, the technical stuff is secondary, which is what other companies don't realize is the least important aspect of a consumer electronics device.

Defcon said,
The actual tv and its features/performance don't matter. It will use the standard Apple formula :-

- be shiny
- have an Apple logo
- have a new buzzword like 'Retina'
- have a series of ads with wildly inflated promises set to hippy music
- be seen as a 'premium' product
- have great integration with the Apple ecosystem
- have some sort of partnership with other companies
- get hype and rave reviews from every single blog/media
- have a range of new accessories

Its all but a guaranteed success and will make them billions. The things about Apple is they won't release a product till they have all the above lined up, the technical stuff is secondary, which is what other companies don't realize is the least important aspect of a consumer electronics device.

And dont forget:

- change a port or plug in a way to require a new cable and patent it and license it to 3rd parties who will do all your heavy lifting with production while you rake in the royalties.

Defcon said,
The actual tv and its features/performance don't matter. It will use the standard Apple formula :-

- be shiny
- have an Apple logo
- have a new buzzword like 'Retina'
- have a series of ads with wildly inflated promises set to hippy music
- be seen as a 'premium' product
- have great integration with the Apple ecosystem
- have some sort of partnership with other companies
- get hype and rave reviews from every single blog/media
- have a range of new accessories

Its all but a guaranteed success and will make them billions. The things about Apple is they won't release a product till they have all the above lined up, the technical stuff is secondary, which is what other companies don't realize is the least important aspect of a consumer electronics device.


These are all excellent and true points, EXCEPT that Apple is now missing the one key ingredient they need in a new "revolutionary" product launch...the greatest salesman since Barnum, Jobs.

It's going to be VERY hard for Apple to keep selling yuppies the overpriced, exclusive niche bandwagon approach without a salesman like Jobs.

I for one will not be buying one. I got my Philips NetTV in january of this year and im happy with it. does everything i need it to i love the picture quality on it and it has all the hookups i will need as well. Apple making a tv is a joke to me.

The problem with TV isn't the hardware or interface. Remotes have worked just fine for the last 50 years. The problem is CONTENT DELIVERY.

How will this work since most CableCos and IPTV providers have their own set top boxes already that include DVR functionality.

I can't see an Apple display terminal controlling the Motorola Mobility designed STB running Microsoft Mediaroom to do simple things like change channel.
That would require way too much cooperation from the three companies trying to dominate the modern Television viewing ecosystem.

deadonthefloor said,
How will this work since most CableCos and IPTV providers have their own set top boxes already that include DVR functionality.

I can't see an Apple display terminal controlling the Motorola Mobility designed STB running Microsoft Mediaroom to do simple things like change channel.
That would require way too much cooperation from the three companies trying to dominate the modern Television viewing ecosystem.

Actually it is possible over an HDMI connection, just more companies need to start using it.

DJ Dark said,
Actually it is possible over an HDMI connection, just more companies need to start using it.

which just reinforces my point.
Apple (TV) won't do it. Google (STB hardware) won't do it. Microsoft (IPTV Provider) won't do it.

deadonthefloor said,

which just reinforces my point.
Apple (TV) won't do it. Google (STB hardware) won't do it. Microsoft (IPTV Provider) won't do it.

I am fortunate that Dish allows control via my Google STB. I have a friend that has Cox and they have their STB's locked down to prevent external control. My friend is not a happy camper about it.

Why not just release a small box that connects to a normal TV? It would do all the same things.
Oh, wait...

siri wouldn't work on a tv, it's too far away and will pick up so many other noises, just look at kinect, you have to shout at it before it can understand you

mrpakiman said,
siri wouldn't work on a tv, it's too far away and will pick up so many other noises, just look at kinect, you have to shout at it before it can understand you

They'll probably allow you to talk into your iPhone or iPad and use them as a remote control.

mrpakiman said,
siri wouldn't work on a tv, it's too far away and will pick up so many other noises, just look at kinect, you have to shout at it before it can understand you

I don't have that problem with the Kinect...

mrpakiman said,
siri wouldn't work on a tv, it's too far away and will pick up so many other noises, just look at kinect, you have to shout at it before it can understand you

Try running the audio calibration tool. You'll see quite an improvement.

It's good that you can simply say "Play bourne ultimatum"; but I hope they don't remove all the navigational buttons because if you have a TV in your bedroom and you probably don't want to be making any noises while your better half is asleep.

And what about dumb people?

the iCry crown is much younger and naive then i had anticipated

jimmyfal said,
""And what about dumb people?""

Uhm, that's what the "i" has stood for all along...

PmRd said,
Who's gonna buy a TV you need to change in 2 years?

TV shelf life is only about 2-3 years anyway, my less than a year old 42" LCD already feels small, chunky and old compared to what's been released the last few months, and it was quite expensive. I'll probably upgrade around the 2 year mark.

That being said, if it's going to be as expensive as they say i would expect it to last a lot longer, so we'll need some amazing retina-like display and a whole host of features [i don't know what they are]... because the ATV box will end up with Siri anyway which can be purchased for around £100.. so it's going to need to want us to buy it over a normal TV + ATV standalone box.

Uplift said,

TV shelf life is only about 2-3 years anyway, my less than a year old 42" LCD already feels small, chunky and old compared to what's been released the last few months, and it was quite expensive. I'll probably upgrade around the 2 year mark.

That being said, if it's going to be as expensive as they say i would expect it to last a lot longer, so we'll need some amazing retina-like display and a whole host of features [i don't know what they are]... because the ATV box will end up with Siri anyway which can be purchased for around £100.. so it's going to need to want us to buy it over a normal TV + ATV standalone box.

I was only making the obvious Apple joke. But on a serious note, older people tend to stick to their old stuff for a long time. (I know people who still uses VCRs)

People will look back at the year 2012, the year Apple invented the television.

Uplift said,

TV shelf life is only about 2-3 years anyway, my less than a year old 42" LCD already feels small, chunky and old compared to what's been released the last few months, and it was quite expensive. I'll probably upgrade around the 2 year mark.

I bought my first and only LCD TV, a 42inch LCD TV back in 12/1/2006. That's still my Main TV. Although i've never used it as a TV, just as a really large computer monitor for watching *cough* TV.

warwagon said,

I bought my first and only LCD TV, a 42inch LCD TV back in 12/1/2006. That's still my Main TV. Although i've never used it as a TV, just as a really large computer monitor for watching *cough* TV.

I moved to LCD TV in 2007 and have zero intention of replacing it any time soon. It still works perfectly, great picture, 1080p. I'd only get one of these things if it was an external box.

PmRd said,
Who's gonna buy a TV you need to change in 2 years?

Exactly, my family's late 2001 Panasonic CRT TV is still working well enough not to justify replacing it. Can you compete with that Apple?

PmRd said,
Who's gonna buy a TV you need to change in 2 years?
be

Hmmm.. every 2 years is actually alot better than the thought of it been a year. Anyways, I think once the first apple tv is bought, dont think people are gonna keep switching it up for a new model every 2 years.. Thats pretty much the same concept followed with their laptops.. So im guessing it will only be minor bumps in performance rather than a severe design change....

dimithrak said,
be

Hmmm.. every 2 years is actually alot better than the thought of it been a year. Anyways, I think once the first apple tv is bought, dont think people are gonna keep switching it up for a new model every 2 years.. Thats pretty much the same concept followed with their laptops.. So im guessing it will only be minor bumps in performance rather than a severe design change....

Yeah pretty stupid you have to replace the whole TV to have a little performance boost. Good thinking Apple!

PmRd said,
Who's gonna buy a TV you need to change in 2 years?

Why do you "need" to change an Apple product earlier than others ? That has always been beyond me. It's a choice you make.

It appears that Apple supports devices like iPods and iPhones for 3 years with new software releases, who else does that ? It also appears that other companies have a bunch of different models when Apple will probably have only one with different storage capacities. So other companies will push a new device around 2-3 months when Apple will respect their yearly release.

PyX said,

Why do you "need" to change an Apple product earlier than others ? That has always been beyond me. It's a choice you make.

It appears that Apple supports devices like iPods and iPhones for 3 years with new software releases, who else does that ? It also appears that other companies have a bunch of different models when Apple will probably have only one with different storage capacities. So other companies will push a new device around 2-3 months when Apple will respect their yearly release.

Apple are pros at forcing you to upgrade. For example, you want to develop for the new iOS? Well you need the new Mac OS.

You want to be safe from the flashback virus? You better have a not too old version of OSX.

You have a 6 year old PPC Mac? Good luck installing anything lol.

Uplift said,

TV shelf life is only about 2-3 years anyway, my less than a year old 42" LCD already feels small, chunky and old compared to what's been released the last few months, and it was quite expensive. I'll probably upgrade around the 2 year mark.

That being said, if it's going to be as expensive as they say i would expect it to last a lot longer, so we'll need some amazing retina-like display and a whole host of features [i don't know what they are]... because the ATV box will end up with Siri anyway which can be purchased for around £100.. so it's going to need to want us to buy it over a normal TV + ATV standalone box.


If you pay **** money for your TV then yes it will feel old. my 3 year old samsung LED feels new all the time.

I'm not buying another LCD TV until OLED TVs some to market at consumer prices. That is killer technology in every way and anything LCD will be made obsolete immediately.

I recommend that you do the same. Wait a year or two. OLED is a game changer.

Uplift said,

TV shelf life is only about 2-3 years anyway, my less than a year old 42" LCD already feels small, chunky and old compared to what's been released the last few months, and it was quite expensive. I'll probably upgrade around the 2 year mark.

That being said, if it's going to be as expensive as they say i would expect it to last a lot longer, so we'll need some amazing retina-like display and a whole host of features [i don't know what they are]... because the ATV box will end up with Siri anyway which can be purchased for around £100.. so it's going to need to want us to buy it over a normal TV + ATV standalone box.

2-3 years? You obviously have some money to throw away. TV's we own usually stick around for 8-10 years.

PmRd said,

Apple are pros at forcing you to upgrade. For example, you want to develop for the new iOS? Well you need the new Mac OS.

You want to be safe from the flashback virus? You better have a not too old version of OSX.

You have a 6 year old PPC Mac? Good luck installing anything lol.


PmRd said,

Yeah pretty stupid you have to replace the whole TV to have a little performance boost. Good thinking Apple!

You are just very silly to think apple decides this for you. Think for yourself.

rippleman said,
You are just very silly to think apple decides this for you. Think for yourself.

No, think different. And yes Apple are somehow forcing some people to upgrade.

Apple won't even put Blu ray drives in their computers because it's a "bag of hurt" which we all know is complete *********, they want people to use the iTunes store. I'm convinced they'll feel the same way when it comes to products with integrated tuners and can't see it happening.

Billy Wicks said,
Apple won't even put Blu ray drives in their computers because it's a "bag of hurt" which we all know is complete *********, they want people to use the iTunes store. I'm convinced they'll feel the same way when it comes to products with integrated tuners and can't see it happening.

true, but the thing is, the online services could and should present a better option than the BRs and stuff - I would never use iTunes cause I don't want to pay per song/per album for the content, but if a service like Zune Pass would start with video content I'm sure to migrate

Billy Wicks said,
Apple won't even put Blu ray drives in their computers because it's a "bag of hurt" which we all know is complete *********, they want people to use the iTunes store. I'm convinced they'll feel the same way when it comes to products with integrated tuners and can't see it happening.

I honestly don't think lacking a Blu-ray player in a computer these days is such a big deal. Then I'd rather choose an integrated SD card reader.