Rumor: Graphics chip for Apple's 2012 iPad-iPhone revealed?

The graphics chip processor that could be powering Apple's 2012 versions of the iPhone and iPad devices has officially been announced. AppleInsider.com reports that Imagination Technologies has announced its new PowerVR Series6 mobile graphics processor. The product, which had the code name Rogue, already has six companies that will license the rights to use the new PowerVR product, including ST-Ericsson, Texas Instruments and MediaTek. However the other three licensed companies are currently secret.

The current generation of the PowerVR chip, the dual-core SGX543, is inside the A5 processor of the current iPad 2 tablet from Apple. Apple promoted the fact that the graphics capability of the iPad 2 was nine times that of the original iPad when it was first launched last April. The A5 processor and the PowerVR chip are also expected to be a part of the next version of Apple's iPhone which most people believe Apple will launch sometime in September. The new PowerVR chip is supposed to be compatible with its previous PowerVR 5 chips which should allow for "a smooth migration path for developers upgrading applications," according to a statement from the company.

While Apple, naturally, has yet to confirm what kind of hardware and processors will be inside the 2012 versions of the iPad and iPhone it's likely that the PowerVR Series6 chip will be involved in some way. As AppleInsider notes, Apple starting buying stock in PowerVR's makers Imagination Technologies in 2008. Its current holdings in the company are now up to 9.5 percent.

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But will it run Crysis?
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Ok, old meme is old. Seriously, why mobile devices need such power while at the same time being able to do so little is beyond me. To show cool animations which, to be honest, are not cool at all? To play Angry Birds? Additionally, I expect Kepler/Maxwell to own these chips anyway.

To extend the possibilities of gaming on those devices perhaps? See Infinity Blade, Dead Space, Grand Theft Auto: Chinatwon Wars. Mobile devices are becoming, day by day, in a more serious alternative to gaming. There's no reason not to upgrade them.

@cralias the PowerVR 6 capabilities might exceed any of the mobile chips but when it comes to desktop's and even notebook's rendering power, they are way behind...

What we have here is a mobile chip development, and as such it will use a mobile OS, iOS, WP7 or Android.

Good luck running a full OS on that chip and expect high performance...

Euphoria said,
@cralias the PowerVR 6 capabilities might exceed any of the mobile chips but when it comes to desktop's and even notebook's rendering power, they are way behind...

What we have here is a mobile chip development, and as such it will use a mobile OS, iOS, WP7 or Android.

Good luck running a full OS on that chip and expect high performance...


But weren't we running a full OS on a hardware similar in performance to today's mobile chips 10 years back?

cralias said,

But weren't we running a full OS on a hardware similar in performance to today's mobile chips 10 years back?

Could you fit that hardware in your pocket 10 years back?

sanctified said,

Could you fit that hardware in your pocket 10 years back?

+1 Plus you wont really see any demand for windows 95 modified for touch interface

sanctified said,
Could you fit that hardware in your pocket 10 years back?

No, sure, I could not. That's why it was 10 years back. Now I can.
OTOH, the ability to run a full OS seems to be taken away. Sides of the equation are out of balance.

Windows 95 itself would be a really bad idea. Windows in general? No one has set a precedent yet (there has been, but as an x86 device it wasn't ULP friendly). We will see of the demand once Windows 8 comes to ARM tablets. Full OS in general? Like Mint with Xfce? AFAIK, Android and true Linux distros have very similar kernels so that one would be very possible. Sadly, no one will be able to monetize the mobile devices that way, so mobile OS has to be stripped out, locked up and slowed down.
At least that's my theory. Don't bin/bash me too hard.

cralias said,

No, sure, I could not. That's why it was 10 years back. Now I can.
OTOH, the ability to run a full OS seems to be taken away. Sides of the equation are out of balance.

Windows 95 itself would be a really bad idea. Windows in general? No one has set a precedent yet (there has been, but as an x86 device it wasn't ULP friendly). We will see of the demand once Windows 8 comes to ARM tablets. Full OS in general? Like Mint with Xfce? AFAIK, Android and true Linux distros have very similar kernels so that one would be very possible. Sadly, no one will be able to monetize the mobile devices that way, so mobile OS has to be stripped out, locked up and slowed down.
At least that's my theory. Don't bin/bash me too hard.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dsoc7IEJnU Just looked it up.

"Apple promoted the fact that the graphics capability of the iPad 2 was nine times that of the original iPad when it was first launched last April"

And it wasn't true.

Magallanes said,
"Apple promoted the fact that the graphics capability of the iPad 2 was nine times that of the original iPad when it was first launched last April"

And it wasn't true.

How do you know?

Magallanes said,

ipad 2 is not 9 times more powerful than ipad 1

GPU wise it is about 4-7x more capable. One test showed 9x (can't recall which this second). Just look at Anand or similar to see.

DomZ said,

It blows everything else out of the water, and I'm pretty sure some benchmarks would show 9x improvement

http://www.anandtech.com/show/...rvr-sgx543mp2-benchmarked/1

There's like one single benchmark it gets 9x in. However, it is, in general, 4x faster than the chip in the iPad 1 (which was 2 generations old). The chip in iPad 1 is same as one in iPhone 3GS.
This is very typical as every year you get around 2x faster.

As processor power and memory quantities increase, the need for more-efficient code decreases. As such, the increased power allows for sloppier coding for those who aren't professionals and more capabilities for those who are.

JJMustang said,
As processor power and memory quantities increase, the need for more-efficient code decreases. As such, the increased power allows for sloppier coding for those who aren't professionals and more capabilities for those who are.
I might agree on this. I remember reading somewhere (where?) that A5 has more graphics power than the original Xbox. While Xbox can't be directly compared to A5, former being specialized for games and the latter being an universal processor, somehow things always only slow down.

"Rumor: Graphics chip for Apple's 2012 iPad-iPhone revealed?"
"The graphics chip processor that could be powering Apple's 2012 versions of the iPhone and iPad devices has officially been announced."

...Wait. Is it a rumor or not?

It's just poorly phrased. The new graphics chip, i.e. PowerVR Series 6, has been announced. The speculation is that this GPU will go on to power the iPad/iPhone that will be released in 2012.

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