Rumor: New MacBook Pro to get Retina display

According to a new report, Apple is preparing a new version of its 15-inch MacBook Pro laptop for release later this year. The new version of the laptop will feature a Retina display, thinner design and USB 3.0.

9to5Mac broke the news, reporting that its sources in Apple's supply chain have been manufacturing the new laptop. According to the site's sources, the new 15-inch MacBook Pro will feature an ultrathin design (a mockup of which can be seen below). The design will not take inspiration from Apple's MacBook Air line, as it will feature no tapering and will instead appear to be a thinner version of the current MacBook Pro design.

 

Perhaps the biggest news surrounding the new version of the MacBook Pro is the display. 9to5Mac's sources indicate the new laptop will feature a Retina display that the sources describe as "definitely the most important Mac innovation in years." Oddly, according to the report, the display will not feature traditional resolution sizes for users to choose from. Instead, screen resolution will be display through "descriptions such as big, small, or optimal."

Lastly, Apple appears to finally be jumping on the USB 3.0 bandwagon. The 15-inch MacBook Pro will be the first commercially-released Apple product to feature the new port standard. The inclusion of USB 3.0 will not be at the sacrifice of Thunderbolt, however, which will still be included in the laptop.

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I think this is great. Why? Because hopefully it will push PC makers to get better screens in their laptops. The screens this generation in general are just poor. 1080 is great for marketing to average people but I think something higher would be a better marketing bullet.

Not sure why people here complaining. I am wondering how win7 and win8 will look on a large resolution screen like this.

Also I wonder what the battery life will be like. The ipad has shown that a massive battery is needed to power large res screens like this.

Would be good if this rumor is true this time (unlike last year when the same rumor was posted). Been waiting for something to replace my Sony (1920x1080, 13") for a long time.

ZakO said,
Would be good if this rumor is true this time (unlike last year when the same rumor was posted). Been waiting for something to replace my Sony (1920x1080, 13") for a long time.

Apple haters are so hilarious, first they want high res and cry about it from their iconic companies, now that apple delivers they are all crying saying its going to be to big, or it will look like **** etc. god dam kids nowadays...

rippleman said,
Apple haters are so hilarious, first they want high res and cry about it from their iconic companies, now that apple delivers they are all crying saying its going to be to big, or it will look like **** etc. god dam kids nowadays...

Haters hate. My view is it'll look fantastic for working on, reading and writing. Gaming is an issue with the poor cards Apple tend to use - but with games centre coming in Mountain Lion it'll be popular in general pick up and play titles.

rippleman said,
Apple haters are so hilarious, first they want high res and cry about it from their iconic companies, now that apple delivers they are all crying saying its going to be to big, or it will look like **** etc. god dam kids nowadays...

LOL you are calling people who aren't Apple fanboys (aka rational people) kids??? We will take a moment to consider Apple fanboy's behavior, first the constant gathering together to try and sh*t over competing products to their beloved iproducts, secondly the complete and utter sad lining up for products including camping the night before an iproduct is released .. and thats just the tip of the iceberg!!! So it looks like you are the one thats the kid around here, time to wipe that egg off your face rippleman !!!!!!!!!!

Byron_Hinson said,

Haters hate..

Did you know that Apple haters are just a complete myth created by the Apple fanboys to try and justify their highly irrational behavior??? Its like those extreme left wingers who call people racists to try and make their views seem valid. So you are completely wrong there my friend on so many levels, although you were out of your depth anyway!! lol!!

Apple really are walking away with the hi res display crown here, not a fan boy by any means but you got to admit they are pushing the resolution boundaries here across the product range. ultrabook makers really need to up their game here!

I don't think this is news, as this has always been expected for quite some time.
The only question remains is how locked in the new MPB is going to be with its storage system. If it is going to be like Macbook Air, where a dedicated SSD storage module with minimal # of upgrade options, I may stick with my current circa 2010 MBP + 512 Gb SSD.

I would much happier if the new MBP, still use the standard SATA 2.5" form factor. The Samsung 830 is only 7mm in thickness.

Edited by ThunderRiver, May 14 2012, 3:57pm :

Because of how it's being reported as revolutionary and innovative.

The backlash is on Apple's marketing, and Tosie's article, not on higher resolution displays.

greenwizard88 said,
Because of how it's being reported as revolutionary and innovative.

The reality is that people are bitching because one source in the Far East described it as an "important Mac innovation". Of course, if any of these individuals looked up innovation in the dictionary and then considered the context in which it is used here, they'd realise that the remark was actually analogous to "the most important new feature for Macs in years" (notice the original use of "Mac" not "Apple") rather than "a brand new invention in the computer display industry that trumps all previously designed items in the past, present and future". I assume that there are people thinking the latter because of the amount of negativity involved in some of these comments. To be honest, I doubt that some of these people even care that this quote obviously didn't come from Apple's marketing department (as it's a rumoured product), it's just another chance to bash a company mindlessly.

greenwizard88 said,
Because of how it's being reported as revolutionary and innovative.

The backlash is on Apple's marketing, and Tosie's article, not on higher resolution displays.


I'm quoting the sources in the article. I think most users here have a problem with the fact that the sources described the display as "innovative," not the article itself.

9to5Mac's sources indicate the new laptop will feature a Retina display that the sources describe as "definitely the most important Mac innovation in years."

Spirit Dave said,
Why is there even ONE negative comment about this here ? lol ....

Good news from Apple makes Apple haters have a ****ty day???? Hell if I know what crawled up people's butt. Nothing new though.

butilikethecookie said,
I really need to get a higher rez monitor...I hope they make a standalone retina monitor. I would defiantly get one.

yea, a 3840x2400 would be nice at 24"... double the 1920x1200

If I were a technology journalist/writer I would be highly embarrassed at using terminology like "retina display"

sam232 said,
If I were a technology journalist/writer I would be highly embarrassed at using terminology like "retina display"

I would agree with you if we were talking about Apple calling something "magical". But "retina display" at least stands for something concrete. It's just a nice shortcut to saying that it's a display with such a high ppi number that the eye is unable to distinguish between individual pixels at usual viewing distances.

CJEric said,

I would agree with you if we were talking about Apple calling something "magical". But "retina display" at least stands for something concrete. It's just a nice shortcut to saying that it's a display with such a high ppi number that the eye is unable to distinguish between individual pixels at usual viewing distances.

Actually before Apple released their magical and revolutionary retina display they were simply known as ultra hi res displays.

sam232 said,
If I were a technology journalist/writer I would be highly embarrassed at using terminology like "retina display"

It's the name of a product or service Apple offers, same as "AMOLED display" or anything like that. It's just what they've coined it. If it were "retina-quality display" I'd agree with you.

Anthony Tosie said,

It's the name of a product or service Apple offers, same as "AMOLED display" or anything like that. It's just what they've coined it. If it were "retina-quality display" I'd agree with you.

Actually AMOLED is a purely technical term (Active-Matrix Organic Light-Emitting Diode), thats why multiple phone manufacturers advertise that they have AMOLED displays just like you can say it has a 1GHZ processor for example. "Retina display" is purely a silly marketing term to describe an already named technology. If Apple came up with a new display *type* (I snigger) then yes they could call it "Retina display" or whatever they want. So pretty epic failure on your part Anthony.

sam232 said,

Actually AMOLED is a purely technical term (Active-Matrix Organic Light-Emitting Diode), thats why multiple phone manufacturers advertise that they have AMOLED displays just like you can say it has a 1GHZ processor for example. "Retina display" is purely a silly marketing term to describe an already named technology. If Apple came up with a new display *type* (I snigger) then yes they could call it "Retina display" or whatever they want. So pretty epic failure on your part Anthony.


Do you also embrace model numbers like XS 45900 LT something edition?

Of cause it's a marketing term, nothing wrong with it.
It's just like saying that Apple will release a Mac.
Of cause you'd say it's just a marketing term and call it a computer in your article, right?

You're taking this way too serious, besides, Apple hasn't even chosen on calling it Retina for the Mac, too.
Likely they will, granted, but so far all we spotted was "HiDPI".

GS:mac

sam232 said,

Actually AMOLED is a purely technical term (Active-Matrix Organic Light-Emitting Diode), thats why multiple phone manufacturers advertise that they have AMOLED displays just like you can say it has a 1GHZ processor for example. "Retina display" is purely a silly marketing term to describe an already named technology. If Apple came up with a new display *type* (I snigger) then yes they could call it "Retina display" or whatever they want. So pretty epic failure on your part Anthony.


If a company has a technology that's named something specific, that's what we -- and every other reputable journalistic outlet on the planet -- call it. There's no "fail" about it.

sam232 said,

Actually AMOLED is a purely technical term (Active-Matrix Organic Light-Emitting Diode), thats why multiple phone manufacturers advertise that they have AMOLED displays just like you can say it has a 1GHZ processor for example. "Retina display" is purely a silly marketing term to describe an already named technology. If Apple came up with a new display *type* (I snigger) then yes they could call it "Retina display" or whatever they want. So pretty epic failure on your part Anthony.

Riiiggghtt... AMOLED was purely technical until they started classifying it as "super" and "super duper".... now its about as meaningful as "high definition".

Honestly, the only reason you don't like "retina" is because it is Apple's marketing term. If any other manufacturer used it you wouldn't mind so much. Admit it.

Setnom said,
So, what resolution will the Macs have?

Probably 2880x1800, but with UI elements displayed so that they're the same size as on the current 1440x900 display (yet with four times the amount of pixels).

neufuse said,

people still use firewire? /s

Lots of people working with audio use it as Firewire is faster, more stable and lower latency than the POS that is USB. USB3 is faster but doesn't necessarily improve on the other parts. I don't know if there are even any USB3 audio interfaces on the market.

Far more important, in the mockups the ethernet port is also missing. At least my DLink gigabit router and Macbook Pro's N-class WIFI couldn't deliver good enough speeds for streaming 1080p video with PS3 media server whereas it worked like a charm with a wired connection.

I don't really get this craze about making the laptop much thinner. The current MBPs aren't thick anyway, figuring out how to make them lighter at the same size would be more viable IMO. And at 15" the width and height rather than thickness are the factors that make it more annoying to carry.

LaXu said,

Lots of people working with audio use it as Firewire is faster, more stable and lower latency than the POS that is USB. USB3 is faster but doesn't necessarily improve on the other parts. I don't know if there are even any USB3 audio interfaces on the market.

Far more important, in the mockups the ethernet port is also missing. At least my DLink gigabit router and Macbook Pro's N-class WIFI couldn't deliver good enough speeds for streaming 1080p video with PS3 media server whereas it worked like a charm with a wired connection.

I don't really get this craze about making the laptop much thinner. The current MBPs aren't thick anyway, figuring out how to make them lighter at the same size would be more viable IMO. And at 15" the width and height rather than thickness are the factors that make it more annoying to carry.

I put the sarcasim tag there for a reason

Retina display that the sources describe as "definitely the most important Mac innovation in years

Mac innovation!? Whaaat....

funkydude said,

Mac innovation!? Whaaat....

Yeah, I heard Apple was going to come out with their competitor to the Ultrabook this year!

Oh wait...

funkydude said,

Mac innovation!? Whaaat....


Bitch please, If my guess is right. They'll promote carbon fiber units, super thin and ****. The Dell XPS 13z already have that, why won't they?

TCLN Ryster said,
So increasing the screen resolution is an "innovation" now?

Everything Apple does is Innovation......and magic. They provided 83% of the Space Magic required for the Mass Effect 3 Ending.

TCLN Ryster said,
So increasing the screen resolution is an "innovation" now?

The technology is an innovation. Name another laptop that features a similar display.

Anthony Tosie said,

The technology is an innovation. Name another laptop that features a similar display.

It's not an innovation, it's a natural evolution of existing technology.

Anthony Tosie said,

The technology is an innovation. Name another laptop that features a similar display.

Apple invented the laptop? WOW it amazes me how people can be so naive.

Anthony Tosie said,

The technology is an innovation. Name another laptop that features a similar display.

It's not innovation. It's application of technology by another party into their products. As with anything Apple does they do not invent or innovate in any way, they just apply what technology comes closest to their vision of what they can sell to the iSheep..

paulheu said,

It's not innovation. It's application of technology by another party into their products. As with anything Apple does they do not invent or innovate in any way, they just apply what technology comes closest to their vision of what they can sell to the iSheep..

Even the original retina display on the iPhone wasn't an innovation. Apple didn't invent high-resolution display panels. They just applied an existing technology to their product.

Innovate is not the same invent. When a company says they are innovating with a particular product it means they are introducing a function or feature, either into their to products or into the mainstream, for the first time.

TCLN Ryster said,
So increasing the screen resolution is an "innovation" now?

I suppose you find the current crap 15" ultrabooks bring @ 1360 x 768 to be innovative.

greenwizard88 said,

Uh, an IBM ThinkPad t41 from 2003...

the T41's did not have a 200ish dpi display, it's 14.1" display was 1024x768, sony at the time was using 1,400 x 1,050 resolution 14.1" displays.... 72 dpi vs 99 dpi... still a far way from 192 or higher dpi screens

Shadrack said,

I suppose you find the current crap 15" ultrabooks bring @ 1360 x 768 to be innovative.


yeah, because the crap 1280x800 on the 13'' MacBook Pro is awesome, right?

just admit that *every* laptop manufacturer is doing a terrible job on the screen resolution side. Only places where you get decent DPI and solid performance is from mobile workstations (aka, designer laptops) like the Dell Studio or HP Elitebook series (1080p on 15 inches).

gonchuki said,

yeah, because the crap 1280x800 on the 13'' MacBook Pro is awesome, right?

just admit that *every* laptop manufacturer is doing a terrible job on the screen resolution side. Only places where you get decent DPI and solid performance is from mobile workstations (aka, designer laptops) like the Dell Studio or HP Elitebook series (1080p on 15 inches).

Umm..The MacBook Pro lineup is long due for a refresh. The 1440x900 resolution of the 13" MacBook Air is awesome, correct. Next refresh will probably be better.

You should be thankful, it will mean that the next wave of ultrabooks will probably have a higher resolution (heaven forbid they compete with higher resolution displays before Apple does).

Shadrack said,

Umm..The MacBook Pro lineup is long due for a refresh. The 1440x900 resolution of the 13" MacBook Air is awesome, correct. Next refresh will probably be better.

You should be thankful, it will mean that the next wave of ultrabooks will probably have a higher resolution (heaven forbid they compete with higher resolution displays before Apple does).

...quite a few of the 13" UltraBooks already have a resolution higher than the MacBook Air, 1600x900. The 13" Sony Z Series released in mid-2010 even offered 1920x1080.

neufuse said,

the T41's did not have a 200ish dpi display, it's 14.1" display was 1024x768, sony at the time was using 1,400 x 1,050 resolution 14.1" displays.... 72 dpi vs 99 dpi... still a far way from 192 or higher dpi screens

The R50Ps had a 2048x1536 IPS panel as an option.
It's a pity we've gone so ass-backwards regarding display quality

they just revolutionized screen resolution!! LOL Honestly though, I am still waiting to buy my first Mac on these or the new iMac's. Just waiting on this to come out.

Wow...

Yes, downside would no doubt be gaming. Gaming on a retina display with a mobile graphics card sounds like a bad joke. And lowered resolution will risk making things fuzzy. On the other hand, I have never seen how fuzzy things will actually get upscaled on a retina display. It's about extremely tiny pixels being upscaled so they are "just tiny". Not tiny pixels upscaled to be big.

Not that gaming were the primary focus on MacBook to begin with. It'd be nice if you could use them for that, though.

I think that if you ran exactly half dpi resolution on games it would look fine, for example run a game at 1440x900 on a 2880x1080 display.

You might notice it a bit in the HUD text etc. but for the most part games are moving graphics where extremely fine resolution doesn't make that much of a difference.

Stetson said,
I think that if you ran exactly half dpi resolution on games it would look fine, for example run a game at 1440x900 on a 2880x1080 display.

You might notice it a bit in the HUD text etc. but for the most part games are moving graphics where extremely fine resolution doesn't make that much of a difference.


What, dpi isn't resolution, it's a function of resolution and screen size.
If you mean "half" the resolution then 900 != 1080/2, you'd be looking at 1440*540 (eww).
PS that's a quarter resolution (2 dimensions)

Really? My Ati 5770 still fails to run games at that resolution , running those games at low resolution would just look pathetic on it!

bogas04 said,
Really? My Ati 5770 still fails to run games at that resolution , running those games at low resolution would just look pathetic on it!

They'd run at half resolution, like many of the iPhone games.

threetonesun said,

They'd run at half resolution, like many of the iPhone games.


Most games would give you the choice what resolution to run it at. The good news is you wouldn't really need anti-aliasing enabled on such a big resolution. The bad news is most laptops can't run AA to begin with, if you want good framerates.

Anthony Tosie said,

Most games would give you the choice what resolution to run it at. The good news is you wouldn't really need anti-aliasing enabled on such a big resolution. The bad news is most laptops can't run AA to begin with, if you want good framerates.

Hold on a second here, since when do people game on macs?

*runs*

Kushan said,

Hold on a second here, since when do people game on macs?

*runs*

okay , lets talk about Videos? 480p/720p youtube videos would look sh~t (on comparing it with the overall OS's resolution and its density.

bogas04 said,

okay , lets talk about Videos? 480p/720p youtube videos would look sh~t (on comparing it with the overall OS's resolution and its density.

Not really. Videos and motion graphics in general don't rely as much on super fine resolution as other things.

Text and UI rendering is affected a lot by a large DPI increase, as is visible when comparing iPhones and iPads before and after they got the high resolution screens.

Video is easy to scale since it's usually full of small amounts of motion blur anyway. A 480p DVD upscaled well to a 720p TV doesn't look as good as native 720p but it looks fine still.

Also many many console games are actually rendered at 720p or less internally and then upscaled to the final output resolution to be sent to your TV. Yes, some people can tell the difference but it isn't a big deal.

Stetson said,

Not really. Videos and motion graphics in general don't rely as much on super fine resolution as other things.

Text and UI rendering is affected a lot by a large DPI increase, as is visible when comparing iPhones and iPads before and after they got the high resolution screens.

Video is easy to scale since it's usually full of small amounts of motion blur anyway. A 480p DVD upscaled well to a 720p TV doesn't look as good as native 720p but it looks fine still.

Also many many console games are actually rendered at 720p or less internally and then upscaled to the final output resolution to be sent to your TV. Yes, some people can tell the difference but it isn't a big deal.

and here we are talking about 2***x1***-ish resolution , think what is 480p next to it?

bogas04 said,

okay , lets talk about Videos? 480p/720p youtube videos would look sh~t (on comparing it with the overall OS's resolution and its density.

I doubt they would look any worse of quality than they already do... Having such a high resolution screen WOULD mean that authors of said videos can actually edit in full 1080p HD and still have plenty of room for their iMovie or Final Cut Pro interface. I think it sounds pretty bad ass.

Never though so many techies would be blasting a better screen resolution. Oh wait, it's is Apple who is bringing it. I guess you folks are fine that the vast majority of ultrabooks have a pathetic 1360x768 on a 15" screen..that's what people should be bitching about.

bogas04 said,
Really? My Ati 5770 still fails to run games at that resolution , running those games at low resolution would just look pathetic on it!

Hook it up to a 720p TV and the beast roars That's what I do.

bogas04 said,
Really? My Ati 5770 still fails to run games at that resolution , running those games at low resolution would just look pathetic on it!

All I can say is don't worry it's not released yet and I'm sure Apple will do something to make sure everything is fine. Too bad there won't be a design change though. I'll wait for that!