Rumor: Next big Windows update coming in spring 2015

Windows 8.1 will officially launch tomorrow morning in the United States, less than a year after Microsoft released Windows 8 to the world. So naturally, some people might think that the next major Windows release will be coming in the fall of 2014. However, a new rumor claims that plan could be changing at Microsoft.

ZDNet reports, via unnamed sources, that the operating system division at Microsoft, which is now headed up by Terry Myerson after the company's recent reorganization, is "rethinking" the current release strategy of Windows updates. While the story does state that while Microsoft's plans could change again, it claims that the company is currently looking to launch a major Windows update in the spring of 2015.

This update is also supposed to bring both the Windows and Windows Phone operating systems closer together, according to the report. That may include a unified Windows Store where users can download apps that will work with both operating systems. This is something that Myerson himself has hinted as being in the works during Microsoft's recent financial analyst meeting.

In between now and spring 2015, the story claims that Microsoft will release a smaller update for Windows 8.1 in the spring of 2014 that will launch alongside a new smaller Surface tablet and the launch of Windows Phone 8.1.

Source: ZDNet | Image via Microsoft

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Never mind the 'Windows 9 with or without Start Screen/Metro' debate (Modern detracts nothing from desktop use, honestly...), let's raise a pose, ride to Redmond and update the bloody desktop icons ourselves?!

Anyone in?

If anything, this will probably be Windows 9

Maybe we won't get any further .x releases of 8, just GDR-type updates through Windows Update.

I think when they say major or big, they mean Windows 9, and they might release a Windows 8.2 or 8.5 next year, with it being more of service pack than what the heck Windows 8.1 is.

Bringing Windows (tablets) and phones closer together. Great for one Operating System. Conspicuous by its absence is what is being for those of us using laptops and desktops which, by virtue of the applications they access, are desktop, keyboard, and mouse oriented?? Will "the great divide" continue, or will Microsoft admit to having made an error in judgement and will actively work to close the "great divide?"

This kills the rumors that Windows Phone 8.1 has been delayed: it's just already following the new cycle. Like Windows 8.1 GDR Spring 2014 and Windows 9 will do.

Microsoft should raise the white flag, and release a version of Windows 8 without the start screen and with an updated start menu. Not a lot of desktop users use the modern apps anyways. From my personal experience, the start screen is much better suited for touch ui than with a mouse. The start menu is much more efficient when using a mouse, especially because the curser movements are so miniscule. It take milliseconds open a program in the start menu because of the small area in which it is in. Using a mouse with the start screen is less efficient because the start screen is larger in screen area thus takes longer to move your mouse curser from one part of the screen to another to open a program.

Yes because displaying every single application on a 27" display is best achived with a tiny menu no bigger than a smartphones screen.

Enjoy sorting all your programs into folders based on their manufacturer I just drag and drop then Export-StartLayout -As XML

TPreston said,
Yes because displaying every single application on a 27" display is best achived with a tiny menu no bigger than a smartphones screen.

Obviously the better solution is to put that same functionality on an ugly screen with tiles the size of dinner plates so that people in straight jackets (AKA your average Windows 8 apologist) can still easily use them.

Lone Wanderer Chicken said,
Microsoft should raise the white flag, and release a version of Windows 8 without the start screen and with an updated start menu. Not a lot of desktop users use the modern apps anyways. From my personal experience, the start screen is much better suited for touch ui than with a mouse. The start menu is much more efficient when using a mouse, especially because the curser movements are so miniscule. It take milliseconds open a program in the start menu because of the small area in which it is in. Using a mouse with the start screen is less efficient because the start screen is larger in screen area thus takes longer to move your mouse curser from one part of the screen to another to open a program.

A bigger surface area is better for both touch and a mouse. It's really because you've just gotten use to navigating small UI elements via a mouse. Look at first time PC users. It takes some time for many to get use to navigating a mouse as opposed to watching people, more noticeably children, intuitively understand swipe gesture with their hands. There's nothing special about a start menu.

Not the same functionality more you can group programs and other resources then export them to another computer or even a thousand.

None of which can be done with the start menu.

Lord Method Man said,

Obviously the better solution is to put that same functionality on an ugly screen with tiles the size of dinner plates so that people in straight jackets (AKA your average Windows 8 apologist) can still easily use them.

Jesus - "Apologist"? Can your argument be any more asinine?

Lone Wanderer Chicken said,
Microsoft should raise the white flag, and release a version of Windows 8 without the start screen and with an updated start menu. Not a lot of desktop users use the modern apps anyways. From my personal experience, the start screen is much better suited for touch ui than with a mouse. The start menu is much more efficient when using a mouse, especially because the curser movements are so miniscule. It take milliseconds open a program in the start menu because of the small area in which it is in. Using a mouse with the start screen is less efficient because the start screen is larger in screen area thus takes longer to move your mouse curser from one part of the screen to another to open a program.

You realize that would cost to support two different ux's with two different feature sets? Microsoft isn't bringing back the menu. It's dead, Jim.

Dot Matrix said,

You realize that would cost to support two different ux's with two different feature sets? Microsoft isn't bringing back the menu. It's dead, Jim.

Windows is dead Jim. No one except you cares about it anymore.

Lord Method Man said,

Obviously the better solution is to put that same functionality on an ugly screen with tiles the size of dinner plates so that people in straight jackets (AKA your average Windows 8 apologist) can still easily use them.

So anyone who likes Windows 8 is an apologist?

AWilliams87 said,

A bigger surface area is better for both touch and a mouse. It's really because you've just gotten use to navigating small UI elements via a mouse. Look at first time PC users. It takes some time for many to get use to navigating a mouse as opposed to watching people, more noticeably children, intuitively understand swipe gesture with their hands. There's nothing special about a start menu.

Agreed.

TPreston said,
Yes because displaying every single application on a 27" display is best achived with a tiny menu no bigger than a smartphones screen.

Enjoy sorting all your programs into folders based on their manufacturer I just drag and drop then Export-StartLayout -As XML

Hmm yes, if only there was a way to resize icons and scale content for high resolution screens.

*scratches head*

AWilliams87 said,

A bigger surface area is better for both touch and a mouse. It's really because you've just gotten use to navigating small UI elements via a mouse. Look at first time PC users. It takes some time for many to get use to navigating a mouse as opposed to watching people, more noticeably children, intuitively understand swipe gesture with their hands. There's nothing special about a start menu.

Anyone who has played an FPS, or even a facebook game on a desktop will have no problem finding small UI elements.

laserfloyd said,

So anyone who likes Windows 8 is an apologist?

Well if anyone who dislike it is a troll/hater/ living in the past etc. ..... Who lives by the sword, die by the sword

Lone Wanderer Chicken said,
Microsoft should raise the white flag, and release a version of Windows 8 without the start screen and with an updated start menu. Not a lot of desktop users use the modern apps anyways.
[...]

Have you tried Windows 7? It sounds like it may be what you're looking for.

Ugh Mary Jo Foley annoys the hell out of so many people at MS with all this crap. Windows 9 was pushed back from a 2014 release date in the summer of 2012 after it was decided that they would release 8.1 due to extremely negative feedback from the public preview which could not be fixed before release.

Who said anything about Windows 9? Mary Jo didn't say "9" anywhere, so for all we know she could be talking about 8.2 or whatever. The Softpedia article says 9, but they are just rehashing Mary Jo's article and deciding for themselves to put the 9 number in it (and in a huge graphic).

PatriotB said,
Who said anything about Windows 9? Mary Jo didn't say "9" anywhere, so for all we know she could be talking about 8.2 or whatever. The Softpedia article says 9, but they are just rehashing Mary Jo's article and deciding for themselves to put the 9 number in it (and in a huge graphic).

If these rumors are true it will have to be W9 for a very simple reason: profits. It is much easier to sell an upgrade for $199 for a product called W9 than one called W8.2 or W8.5.

Even autumn 2014 is a fail - 2015 is unbelievable - Windows 9 should be well on the way to going gold by then.

wotsit said,
Even autumn 2014 is a fail - 2015 is unbelievable - Windows 9 should be well on the way to going gold by then.

lol they just released 8.1 today .. and you are complaining that the next one cant come soon enough.

Not really... next 'major' update is more like Windows 9 or Windows 8.5. This is like their usual cycle (XP, Vista, 7, 8).

If this is true then that would also mean that the new GDR type update for Windows 8.1 that will come in 2014 is true. So far these are both rumors but I can see how a update to Windows 8.1 to match with any changes In Windows Phone 8.1 could happen. Still, if they mean new "major" version in 2015 that doesn't leave out the possibility of a 8.2 in 2014 that could be minor with the version in 2015 being 8.5 or even 9.0 for all we know.

Kind of, the current plan, which is going to change with a new CEO most likely, is to have a new major release every 36 months and a new point release (aka a "super service pack") 18 months in between. Microsoft do not have the luxury that Apple has with minimum enterprise customers to be able to do major release every 18 months.

It has been known for quite a while within MS that this was the only 12 month release planned for Windows 8 they were always going to aim for an 18 month release schedule but due to poor sales they were forced to get a release out before the holiday season.

It is uncertain if Office is going to enter a similar development cycle until the next major release although the goal is to have all of their major product groups release updates within the same quarter (Visual Studio, .NET, Office, Clients and Server) however with a new CEO inbound who knows if that will stay.

Jdawg683 said,
lets just wait until 2015, ok? These rumor updates are becoming as annoying as American election rumors.

president douchebag for 2016!

Cool!

Absolutely NO reason to be thinking of an update for Windows already. So sick of hearing about Windows 8/8.1, I could

If they're going to support an OS for 14 years like XP, what the heck do they need to shove new Windows down our throats for? Especially when the OS is next to no different than the previous except for making it stupider? Yes, I said stupider because that what I think of Windows 8!!

Actually,
I know the reason, it's called cash!!

cork1958 said,
Cool!
If they're going to support an OS for 14 years like XP, what the heck do they need to shove new Windows down our throats for? Especially when the OS is next to no different than the previous except for making it stupider? Yes, I said stupider because that what I think of Windows 8!!

OMG you mean Microsoft is a profit making organization!?