Rumor: Next Xbox processor in production?

Microsoft has yet to give an official announcement about its plans for a successor to its Xbox 360 console. However, the rumors of that console (called Xbox Next or Xbox 720 in the media) have continued to hit the Internet. The latest such rumor comes from SemiAccurate.com which claims via unnamed sources that production has now begun on the processor, coded name Oban, at an unnamed foundry.

The story further claims that 10,000 wafers of the processor are being made, with the conclusion that these chips are being created for installation in official Xbox Next/720 game developers kits. It claims that the production of these chips actually started at the end of 2011 and that the first chips will be ready to go sometime in late February. The article speculates that development kits with these chips could be ready to be sent to game developer studios in March 2012.

The article also speculates, and many other people agree, that Microsoft will once again have a PowerPC-based CPU for the next Xbox processor, just as the Xbox 360 has one based on PowerPC's design. Xbox Next/720 might also have a Radeon-based graphics chip from AMD.

Again, this is all rumor and Microsoft is likely not to confirm anything about the next version of the Xbox until E3 2012 in June at the earliest.

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I'am pretty sure they'll use a mobile version of AMD videocard, that way it's cheaper, need a way less powerful powersupply and since it's a console, a lower version will equal to higher setting on PC. For Antialiasing, they just can use FXAA, witch does a great job a removing most of the jaggies for about 10% performance penality. They already use it for some game on Xbox 360 but it's a old version..

Also they better not cheap of ram. I am 2x4gb DDR3 1600mhz cost like 36$CAD...

I mean even a I3 with a 550TI destroy an Xbox360 graphically so..

This could also just be a new contract producing the XBox 360 CPU/GPU.

Since Microsoft moved over to an integrated CPU/GPU design for the XBox 360, many tech people get confused easily, and often jump to a conclusion that it is for a next generation XBox, when it is just a new way the original architecture was made.

This could be the next generation XBox CPU/GPU, but I doubt that it is anywhere near a finalized version without more developer exposure to the technology, that would have leaked out.

Microsoft also likes to push the 'theoretical' boundary of hardware engineering and conceptual technologies that are what the PC world sees as the future DirectX technologies as implemented in hardware.

So these chips are either a generation beyond the current XBox and what we know in the PC world, or they are the current XBox 360 SoC design in a new fabrication plant.

Why not just keep the name Xbox, it doesn't need anything after it to identify the brand. Besides, calling it the 720 would be stupid, what next after that, the 1440?

It needs upgradable internal storage, and to be able to play any media file you could throw at it...ie..MKV's.

The next Xbox is called, internally, TEN. Not 720. Not Next (that was the code name for the 360, for crying out loud).

I pretty much lost all hope for forum kiddies to get this right, but I'd expect staff writers to at least spend 10 seconds on an internet search.

Won't be out till 2013 at the earliest.. If the development kits aren't even done, game dev's won't have enough time to make games for it's release.

As mostly an exclusively PC-Gamer and less as former Console Gamer ( when I was kid ), I can't wait either.

No doubt it will help us get better console-ports, at least.

jimmyfal said,
So what is advantage of Power PC processor? Other than backward compatability?

Is simple. imagine it going to 28nm maybe a little more horsepower, say 6 or 8 cores of fully fledge ibm power processor, same mhz or little more, upgraded instruction set, couple this with a 7970like processor for graphics with 20mb of edram (antialiasing almost performace) and the max resolution they are hitting is 1080p.
A good software layer to make old games to run with higher settings (more resolution, more antialiasing, more anisotropic filtering)
I can only imagine. But what I saiyng is that makes sense for them. I can only say WOW!!!

Oh come on!!! They are not going to putting in a 7970 or anything remotely as powerful into the next xbox.
The thing has to sell for under $500 and not $1000+

last generation used x1900 core, when x1900 was not even released... i bet it would use similar technology. But it would be OVERKILL.
People loves overpowered

M_Lyons10 said,
I hope it has a bluray drive. lol
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i personally think that they will not even have a DVD Drive.. I would love it if they started putting games on USB sticks and have an option for an external DVD through USB..

Lachlan said,
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i personally think that they will not even have a DVD Drive.. I would love it if they started putting games on USB sticks and have an option for an external DVD through USB..


Doesn't sound bad actually, provided costs of games don't go up. I don't think anyone can afford a price hike on games again...

I'm more interested in the next Kinect, than anything. And also that one OS thingy.
One OS for mobile, PC, tablet and Xbox. Very impressive, if true.

Im ready to upgrade, dont really care what anyone else has to say.... Yes the Xbox has been selling fine as of late, but there is only so far this console can take people before they start to drift to other places.

Please Microsoft, make it more powerful for gaming and wouldnt mind more in the media entertainment section either.

ps: there were rumors of the next xbox having kinect built into it, and recently there was rumors of a kinect-like-device that would be for media related content. Are these two the same thing, or is it possible that it would be two different xbox next versions... guess its just the waiting game...

auziez said,
Im ready to upgrade, dont really care what anyone else has to say.... Yes the Xbox has been selling fine as of late, but there is only so far this console can take people before they start to drift to other places.

Please Microsoft, make it more powerful for gaming and wouldnt mind more in the media entertainment section either.

ps: there were rumors of the next xbox having kinect built into it, and recently there was rumors of a kinect-like-device that would be for media related content. Are these two the same thing, or is it possible that it would be two different xbox next versions... guess its just the waiting game...

"built-in" as in "into the console itself" makes no sense. The current kinect has moving parts and you'd have to put the console in an awkward location. A Kinect 2 may come bundled with the system but we'd have to see how dedicated Microsoft is to the hardware to make everyone pay for it (such a console would be quite expensive).

dagamer34 said,

"built-in" as in "into the console itself" makes no sense. The current kinect has moving parts and you'd have to put the console in an awkward location. A Kinect 2 may come bundled with the system but we'd have to see how dedicated Microsoft is to the hardware to make everyone pay for it (such a console would be quite expensive).

Agreed. It'll definitely be interesting.

Travelar said,
*Hopes for backwards compatibility*

PowerPC and an AMD graphics card? There's a pretty good chance of it. Plus I think Microsoft has invested far too much in the current 360 ecosystem (All those apps like netflix and such) for them to just dump them.

greenwizard88 said,
Nahh, the advantage to making everything silverlight is that it's platform agnostic.

and when the current xbox 360 isn't all silverlight, that works how?

neufuse said,

and when the current xbox 360 isn't all silverlight, that works how?

Those Silverlight ads will at least work. ><

Travelar said,
*Hopes for backwards compatibility*

If you lookup the best technology company to have provided the greatest level of backward compatibility, Microsoft is the is the logo you would find in the dictionary next to the enry.

There were a handful of XBox games that didn't get XBox 360 compatibility, and considering that you can literally install a DOS application from around 1982 on your new Windows 7 x64bit 24 CPU system without issue and it works, I would bet they will give you some form of transition at the very least. (Yes the x64bit of Windows requires XP mode virtualization, but companies around the world use it every day.)


Wombatt said,
*Hopes for quiet fans*

Tried the new slim model? My slim is dead quiet, the only sound is the disc drive, but when I run from the hard drive, it's dead silent.

Crisps said,

Liquid Cooling would be epic.

or some new type of cold fusion to keep it cold would be awesome.. it would likely cost millions per cosole but you never know lol

Lachlan said,

or some new type of cold fusion to keep it cold would be awesome.. it would likely cost millions per cosole but you never know lol

That's not what cold fusion is. Cold fusion doesn't "produce cold".

It's just a theory about generating fusion power around room temperature, instead of the hundreds of thousands (millions? billions?) of degrees normally involved.

Admittedly, a fusion-powered XBox would be pretty neat... although if you so much as hint at the words "nuclear" and "XBox" in the same sentence and you'd immediately have a million activists waving torches and pitchforks.

Wombatt said,
*Hopes for quiet fans*

Um, have you seen an XBox made in the past few years?

The Xbox 360 S uses a new internal design that is smaller, consumes less power and generates far less heat. It uses the new XCGPU, which is GPU/CPU/RAM integrated on a smaller chip using the 45nm fabrication.

Which means the current model of XBox sold in stores runs cool and is very quiet. (Quieter than a PS3 and even many TiVo/DirecTV/Media boxes consumers have by their televisions.)

cyberdrone2000 said,

That's not what cold fusion is. Cold fusion doesn't "produce cold".

It's just a theory about generating fusion power around room temperature, instead of the hundreds of thousands (millions? billions?) of degrees normally involved.

Admittedly, a fusion-powered XBox would be pretty neat... although if you so much as hint at the words "nuclear" and "XBox" in the same sentence and you'd immediately have a million activists waving torches and pitchforks.

Fusion is so last century, even anti-matter powered devices are so 1980s Star Trek.

We need a single point energy based XBox, that should give it enough power to bend space and time, and just put the gamer in a new reality instead of a game.


If you go by past history, Microsoft does like to announce that developers already have Devkits (or are receiving them that same day) when they announce a new product. That's what happened with Kinect at E3. IF there's any truth to this rumour, it fits in nicely with the time frame for an E3 announcement.

Crisps said,
Can't wait.

Always this comment.

Someone explain this to me once and for all...if you can't wait, does that mean you're gonna go for something else instead?


Seriously...I'm pretty sure you can, and will.

_dandy_ said,

Always this comment.

Someone explain this to me once and for all...if you can't wait, does that mean you're gonna go for something else instead?


Seriously...I'm pretty sure you can, and will.

Just out of curiosity... Do you find metaphor-heavy articles difficult to read?

what said,

Just out of curiosity... Do you find metaphor-heavy articles difficult to read?

No, but I can recognize when people don't put any thought whatsoever into their comments. "I can't wait" is just assinine.

_dandy_ said,

No, but I can recognize when people don't put any thought whatsoever into their comments. "I can't wait" is just assinine.

You poor soul.