Rumor: PS3 CFW users find a way back onto PSN?

In a rather interesting turn of events, it appears that PS3 users with custom firmware are able to log back into PSN - without upgrading to 3.61, the firmware released by Sony as part of its efforts to secure the network. Currently in terms of custom firmware, users can only install modified versions of version 3.55 or below. Versions 3.6 and 3.61 have been secured by Sony in such a way that they have yet to be "hacked" in any way that allows homebrew or piracy. Theoretically, this should prevent anyone from getting on PSN or running the latest games without upgrading.

Without giving too many details away, a modified version of 3.55 was released that made a retail PS3 act like a "test" PS3, or a debug PS3. Normally, this wouldn't allow you to get onto the real PSN, the console would attempt to access one of the developer networks that Sony uses instead. Still, where there is a will there is a way and some clever users found a way to trick their retail-cum-developer consoles to play games on the actual servers that regular PS3 people use, effectively letting them back on PSN.

That was a few months ago and about a week after this was unveiled, PSN was taken down for its 3 week hiatus. At first, people speculated that these custom firmware users were the "intrusion" that Sony spoke of, before Sony made us aware of the larger attack that took place.

Most people expected that when Sony brought the PSN back online, these users would be locked out as a matter of security and, to a point, they were correct. Everyone was forced to update their console to 3.61 before getting online, however just a few short days after the network came back, people claim to have already found a way to "spoof" their consoles without updating. While the information originated from a Brazilian website, this information is already spreading amongst various other sites with several users confirming that it does indeed work. 

If this is true, and it's a big if, it does bring into question just how much more secure the new PSN really is. Hopefully this is just a small glitch on Sony's part and will be reconciled soon.

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Actually, this makes sense that this would happen. You've got to realize that by no means was the PSN fixed; it was rather rebuilt from the ground up. In fact, we can go ahead and say that this is an entirely NEW PSN, so the users who were previously locked out might be able to get online until Sony flips the switch and turns everything back on.
Also, this could be a play to expose more hackers, and subsequently shut them down. We've already seen that Sony implements "timebombs" into their FW; anyone remember how Netflix "magically" appeared. So, it's not a far stretch to think that the new PSN is more powerful in a way that kills hacked PS3's.
Just a thought though...

"...some clever users found a way to trick their retail-cum-developer consoles to play games on the actual servers..."

How would one become a retail cum developer? I could have been selling it all this time?!

Skwerl said,
"...some clever users found a way to trick their retail-cum-developer consoles to play games on the actual servers..."

How would one become a retail cum developer? I could have been selling it all this time?!

lol

If this is actually the case, it would seem that Sony still aren't ready to take their training wheels off again yet.
I think Sony should not have been allowed to put the PSN back on-line without independent validation of the system's security. In Japan they have not been allowed to and I think that other countries should be asking big questions about Sony's competence.

Then it's a good thing you have no influence..

Modded Xboxes have been able to get on XBL for years off and on.. it's not a reason to shutdown the network, or even panic.. It's a minor piracy concern to Sony/MS but in the end it's nothing serious.. And has NO impact on the overall security..

And the gov't should keep out.. YOU take the risk when you hand over your information.. If Sony screws up, then you sue them, or get something from them.. The gov't shouldn't have a hand in there at all.. Hell the last thing the Gov't should be talking about is keeping things secure.. They leak all over and by and large have very bad security except for a few big sites/networks..

Ryoken said,
Then it's a good thing you have no influence..

Modded Xboxes have been able to get on XBL for years off and on.. it's not a reason to shutdown the network, or even panic.. It's a minor piracy concern to Sony/MS but in the end it's nothing serious.. And has NO impact on the overall security..

And the gov't should keep out.. YOU take the risk when you hand over your information.. If Sony screws up, then you sue them, or get something from them.. The gov't shouldn't have a hand in there at all.. Hell the last thing the Gov't should be talking about is keeping things secure.. They leak all over and by and large have very bad security except for a few big sites/networks..

The difference is Microsoft kept their core security in place. a 'disc modified' console can't run custom code. The PS3 is modified, so it CAN, and trust me that Cell processor don't mess around

I also pay taxes so my government can enforce laws. Considering sony BROKE one almost in every country world wide I don't see why the governement can't be involved to ensure their business they tax is suitable for operation.

Ruciz said,

The difference is Microsoft kept their core security in place. a 'disc modified' console can't run custom code. The PS3 is modified, so it CAN, and trust me that Cell processor don't mess around

I also pay taxes so my government can enforce laws. Considering sony BROKE one almost in every country world wide I don't see why the governement can't be involved to ensure their business they tax is suitable for operation.


Keep in mind though that this wasn't an issue of modded consoles. Really, anything is hackable, but this was an attack on the network itself. Also an interesting sidenote, although the client infrastructures is wildly different for both consoles, the network structure is VERY similar because Sony actually helped Microsoft develop XBL. Interesting, huh?

Doesn't really call the security of the network into question. Are they able to obtain information that they should not be able to? Is my personal information at risk? I trusted Sony before and I continue to trust them. People will always find a way to "hack" their way into whatever they want and spoil it for everybody, because some people are just plain lazy, unpredictable and untrustworthy.

If this is true, and it's a big if, it does bring into question just how much more secure the new PSN really is.

No, no it really doesn't..

Securing your backend against hackers out to take down the network, take information, etc, is a WHOLE different ballgame than Than letting a legitimate user on the network to do legitimate things who may have found a way to fool the network into thinking his firmware is fine or that it's a dev unit..

Ryoken said,

No, no it really doesn't..

Securing your backend against hackers out to take down the network, take information, etc, is a WHOLE different ballgame than Than letting a legitimate user on the network to do legitimate things who may have found a way to fool the network into thinking his firmware is fine or that it's a dev unit..

This potentially can allow cheating and potentially downloading of free content from PS Store. Both hacking and this will undermine security... questioning as a whole how secure PSN actually is.

Brazillians contributing again to piracy. We pay one of the highest import taxes in the world. Contributing to piracy won't make companies to invest more money here... that's sad. I hope this is not true, and if it is, that Sony fix this asap

Aghares said,
Brazillians contributing again to piracy. We pay one of the highest import taxes in the world. Contributing to piracy won't make companies to invest more money here... that's sad. I hope this is not true, and if it is, that Sony fix this asap

Brazillians are also some of the most annoying people in online gaming. So, no real loss there.

Xilo said,

Brazillians are also some of the most annoying people in online gaming. So, no real loss there.

Yeah, I know brazillians can be really annoying. Even in the last mmorpg I played, I didn't joined brazillian guilds. But, as a brazillian gamer, I would love to have lower prices here, so I wouldn't be tempted to import and risk being r@ped by the taxes...

Aghares said,

Yeah, I know brazillians can be really annoying. Even in the last mmorpg I played, I didn't joined brazillian guilds. But, as a brazillian gamer, I would love to have lower prices here, so I wouldn't be tempted to import and risk being r@ped by the taxes...

blame the rest of your country, you guys pay more taxes for ruining online gaming for the rest of us. hopefully they will do the same with those damn eastern europeans

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