Rumor: Sony to reveal Playstation 4 in 2012?

With Nintendo due to launch its next generation game console, the Wii U, sometime in 2012, console game industry members have been speculating on when Microsoft and Sony will reveal the successors to the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 consoles. This week Industry Gamers is reporting via unnamed sources that Sony could reveal its Playstation 4 console sometime next year. The article claims the info came from "a top developer" who did not wished to be directly quoted.

Sony revealed its Playstation 3 console over a year before the console was actually launched, so an early reveal for the PS4 is not without precedent. However, Industry Games chatted with some game-themed financial analysts who expressed doubt that Sony would actually reveal a PS3 successor next year. Wedbush Securitites analyst Michael Pachter is quoted as saying that new consoles from both Sony and Microsoft won't actually come out before 2014, with reveals in 2013. He states, "Wii U isn't going to pressure anyone, it's Nintendo's catch up to this cycle, and the other guys are going to see if the tablet integration is worth copying first. That means nobody is going to finalize specs till they see if Wii U succeeds."

Another analysts, David Cole of DFC Intelligence, believes that Sony needs to keep the PS3 console as its first priority for a while longer, saying that an early PS4 reveal "would mean a major loss and an early end to the PS3, which if it can last several years longer could start making some decent money for the company. Yes, they will feel pressure from the competition, but I think pressure from investors and the financial community wins the day."

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The PS3 hasn't even seen a game that can fully use what is under the hood yet. So why make a new console already? Heck I bought a PS3 when it was released, sold it because most of the exclusives went to the 360, so I got one of those. Then I purchased a Slim PS3 about 4 months ago to play Killzone 3, that game looks good but I still think they haven't even come close to tapping the power of the PS3.

yowan said,
Who cares... PCs are much more powerful

I prefer games on my PC too, but game developers seem to love consoles, it's easier to deal with plus they can rush out crap and still make big money, as the PS3 scene can testify, it's harder to pirate games too. I'm sure the PS4 security will be pretty damned tight along with XBox as they've learned from their mistakes the past few years, all of which will mean more profit. I played quite a few games that if I didn't have the opportunity to play first for free, I might have bought one or two.

dbam987 said,
this will be a fail for sony if they release a ps4 so soon... a microsoft exec says that the xbox 360 is only about half-way through it's lifespan: http://www.neowin.net/news/mic...lfway-through-its-life-span

That doesn't mean that the next Xbox won't be released for another 5 years. As you may know Ps1 and Ps2 lived side by side for some years as well as Ps2 and Ps3 do now. What i'm trying to say is, just because MS says that the X360 has another 5 years on the market doesn't men they won't release a new Xbox in, lets say, 2 years.

_-Psycho-_ said,

That doesn't mean that the next Xbox won't be released for another 5 years. As you may know Ps1 and Ps2 lived side by side for some years as well as Ps2 and Ps3 do now. What i'm trying to say is, just because MS says that the X360 has another 5 years on the market doesn't men they won't release a new Xbox in, lets say, 2 years.

The PS2 only lived for so long because Sony dropped backwards compatibility for it shortly after the PS3 was released. Developers saw that lots of people still owned PS2's (myself included) and had years of experience developing titles for the PS2 still so thought "lets stick with the PS2 for a bit longer."

The PS3 is a very capable machine, and I just don't see why Sony would have to invest in even newer consoles now. Microsoft broke the trend (finally) with the Kinect. That add-on revitalized a console.

There is only one thing that I really like about Apple. Yearly hardware refreshes. I really hope other companies follow this. This 2014 is too long a time for a consumer product refresh. There is a difference between consumer and enterprise. And it's also good for the brand and revenue.

FMH said,
There is only one thing that I really like about Apple. Yearly hardware refreshes.

Yearly hardware refreshes are a great idea for consoles…………NOT! The main difference between console and pc gaming is that consoles have a fixed hardware the developers can focus on…

FMH said,
There is only one thing that I really like about Apple. Yearly hardware refreshes. I really hope other companies follow this. This 2014 is too long a time for a consumer product refresh. There is a difference between consumer and enterprise. And it's also good for the brand and revenue.

Not for consoles. That will (dare I say) never happen.

MFH said,

Yearly hardware refreshes are a great idea for consoles…………NOT! The main difference between console and pc gaming is that consoles have a fixed hardware the developers can focus on…

asdavis10 said,

Not for consoles. That will (dare I say) never happen.

According to some analyst, Apple will place Apple TV, as a gaming console, going forward. To answer Microsoft's Xbox.
http://www.macrumors.com/2011/...ple-tv-as-a-gaming-console/

I mean, its following an yearly upgrade cycle.
So it could happen.

FMH said,
According to some analyst, Apple will place Apple TV, as a gaming console, going forward. To answer Microsoft's Xbox.

So a device that can't do anything without iTunes and has about the hardware capabilities of an iPhone will be Apple's answer to the XBox 360? This thing can't even beat a Wii… AppleTV2 as console == another Pippin…

MFH said,

So a device that can't do anything without iTunes and has about the hardware capabilities of an iPhone will be Apple's answer to the XBox 360? This thing can't even beat a Wii… AppleTV2 as console == another Pippin…

I said "Moving forward". Meaning eventually.
And as these small, repetitive and meaningless games have been a hit on iPhone and iPad, theres no reason they dont make a big hit on consoles(Apple TV). Especially if that "console" cost $99 and comes with strong media capabilties.
Obviously I agree with you, that it's not an Xbox, but it's also not rubbish.

dead.cell said,
^ **** that. If that's the future, I want no part in it.

Don't worry, we can always revert back to other options. I see this as another choice. A poor man's Xbox.

Considering the Vita integration with the PS3 I doubt this is true. I would expect closer to 2014 unveil 2015 release.

The Wii U will be behind the other two consoles at that point. If anything the only thing that is sparking this isn't that the Wii U has caught up graphically but that its "New" and consumers like "New" things. Even though they are buying into the same performance level from 5 years ago.

I can say now Ill be getting one when it comes out.. The PS3 is one of the best fun wise products I have ever paid for...It is used loads and I'm happy to say its working as good as it did when I first got it

Looks like they are milking these cows completely dry.

My 360 hasn't been powered on for absolutely ages. Zero innovation and games are actually becoming less and less innovative. Aren't people sick of motion blur and bloom by now?

Roll on Bf3 and Skyrim... on the PC of course.

Have they even recovered losses for the PS3 yet? I'm with the analyst claiming the release in 2014.
The Wii U isn't a serious competition(specs wise), but considering how hot the Wii sold, profit wise MS & Sony have gotta gear up.

Navan said,
Have they even recovered losses for the PS3 yet? I'm with the analyst claiming the release in 2014.
The Wii U isn't a serious competition(specs wise), but considering how hot the Wii sold, profit wise MS & Sony have gotta gear up.

Depends on which part of the losses. Most of the initial losses were R&D on Blu-ray and the Cell. Rumor has it they'll incorporate a new version of the Cell in the PS4. I'm sure they've made more than their share back on Blu-ray.

As far as selling at a loss, that's common practice, you make your money back on gadgets (Move), accessories (Oh look, Dualshock!), and software royalties. I'm sure they're doing fine.

Nintendo needed the Wii to sell well because that's all they do. If they lose money on it, there's no entertainment, movie, television, operating system, office software division to help out the company's bottom line.

Navan said,
Have they even recovered losses for the PS3 yet? I'm with the analyst claiming the release in 2014.
The Wii U isn't a serious competition(specs wise), but considering how hot the Wii sold, profit wise MS & Sony have gotta gear up.
I wonder when people will realize how stupid they look constantly claiming they know the (apparently exact) specs of a machine that's not only not due out for atleast another year, but hasn't had those details made public.

Another analysts, David Cole of DFC Intelligence, believes that Sony needs to keep the PS3 console as its first priority for a while longer, saying that an early PS4 reveal "would mean a major loss and an early end to the PS3, which if it can last several years longer could start making some decent money for the company. Yes, they will feel pressure from the competition, but I think pressure from investors and the financial community wins the day."

Sure but the original Xbox lost money and they cut support for it early but I bet they're glad they did with how well the 360 sold.

Olemus said,

Sure but the original Xbox lost money and they cut support for it early but I bet they're glad they did with how well the 360 sold.

I'm wondering if and when 360/ps3 does finally loose support will the games purchased through them, still accessible? You have to sign into live on the 360 in order for the games to be full and not on trial. Which would really suck down the road if you own hundreds of them and M$ decides to cut support. Hopefully they'll have some sort of arcade games will be unlocked before they eventually do it.

Olemus said,

Sure but the original Xbox lost money and they cut support for it early but I bet they're glad they did with how well the 360 sold.

Because of the RRoD fiasco with early 360 units, I think the entire Xbox project has barely been in the black for Microsoft. The system was rushed, there's no doubt about it. The last years of a consoles life are it's most profitable because people are buying a lot of games, there's little reason to end that early.

dagamer34 said,

Because of the RRoD fiasco with early 360 units, I think the entire Xbox project has barely been in the black for Microsoft. The system was rushed, there's no doubt about it. The last years of a consoles life are it's most profitable because people are buying a lot of games, there's little reason to end that early.


exactly.. these companies make all their money from software sales and movie rentals.. they make a loss on the actual hardware sales..